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ninjaman1515

Greetings Smogon Community! I come to you in need of a little help. I have good team building skills but I seem to need something a little extra to turn it up a notch I was hoping for some constructive criticism of my current team in the hopes of making it a little better. I started with a Genger/Tyranitar/Magnezone offensive core and went from there
With out further ado, here they are!
Changes have been made in Bold
Azelf (lead) @ Focus Sash
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Ability: Levitate
Nature: Naive
EVs: 4 HP/ 252 Spe/ 252 Spa
Moveset:
-Explosion
-Fire Blast
-Stealth Rock
-Taunt

It's your basic Azelf lead. I went with Azelf as my lead over a faster SRer like Aerodactyl due to its access to Explosion. Fire Blast is to deal with a Metagross lead, as Psychic is useless, more often than not. The only lead I have found that Azelf has serious problems with is Machamp due to the Payback/Bullet Puch routine, but a quick explosion usually clears things up. Fake Out leads, like Infernape, can be a problem though because they usually aim for a 2HKO and carry a Focus Sash of their own to mess up an effective Explosion. Anything Azelf can't kill outright will be left so weak it can easily be devoured by the rest of the team.


Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
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Ability: Serene Grace
Nature: Adamant
Evs: 252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 4 Spd
Moveset:
-Fire Punch
-Ice Punch
-Iron Head
-Trick

A Jirachi that is meant to be a jack-of-all-trades. It can come in for a revenge kill or come in on a resisted attack, screw over the enemy with Trick and proceed to do as much damage as possible. Jirachi covers many of the weaknesses of the other members of the team to allow for the best coverage, also, flinch haxing is always a good way to go. The only reason this Jirachi is Adamant as opposed to something better is because that is the Jirachi I have available to me, and being unable to breed, I'm stuck with it.


Vaporeon@Leftovers
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Ability: Water Absorb
Nature: Bold
EVs: 188 HP/252 Def/68 Spe
Moveset:
-Surf
-HP: Electric
-Protect
-Wish


Rotom-H@Choice Scarf
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Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/ 252 Spe/ 252 Spa
Moveset:
-Overheat
-Thunderbolt
-Shadow Ball
-Trick


Magnezone@Leftovers
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Nature: Modest
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 172 HP/ 84 Spe/ 252 Spa
Moveset:
-HP: Grass
-Substitute
-Thunderbolt
-Thunder Wave

Magnezone is a great way to deal with the obnoxious bird Skarmory, keeping it from running away and crushing it with Thunderbolt. Spreading paralysis is also a great thing. Ground-types who want to come in for a quick OHKO will be beaten back by Hidden Power: Grass. Magnezone also works along side Gengar to allow for a late-game Tyranitar sweep by eliminating pesky Water-types who would ruin Tyanitar's fun.

Tyranitar@Choice Band
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Nature: Adamant
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 44 HP/ 252 Atk/ 214 Speed
Moveset:
-Aqua Tail
-Crunch
-Pusuit
-Stone Edge

This Tyranitar is designed with a late-game sweep in mind, but can also be useful mid game if called for. The Expert Belt is to bluff a Choice Band, since I don't really like Choice items, as my prediction skills are still well below par. The Aqua Tail is usually unexpected and is great for dealing with opposing Tyranitar and other Rock- and Ground-types. Crunch and Stone Edge provide good STABed type coverage, while the usual Pursuit deals with anyone who wants to run away.


Conclusion: This team covers most of OU's top threats but I have had problems with Flygon getting in my way and screwing me over. Other potential threats include:
-Lucario: usually gets handled by Gengar but is a problem if it can Crunch before I can put it to sleep
-Metagross: If it is packing Aglility I have had problems when Jirachi is already out of the picture, as it can easily out speed and crush anything I throw at it
-Infernape: This guy could causes problems if it is running a super fast variety, but can be taken out by Tyranitar
-Gyarados: Magnezone or Jolteon should handle this guy but if he has a few DDs under his belt he is a problem, the RestTalk variety is also dangerous
-Flygon: Another who is a problem if seen with a Choice Scarf and can out speed both Jirachi and Tyranitar, who are its main counters
 
Tyranitar @ Babiri Berry
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Jolly
~ Dragon Dance
~ Crunch
~ Stone Edge
~ Fire Punch

One Dragon Dance and you can count yourself winning.

Fire Punch is for the Steel types who think they can wall/counter Tyranitar, Lucario and Bronzong basically, it also deals with pesky Spore Punch Breloom, which can cause some little troubles to your team.

You can replace Fire Punch for Earthquake for more power, but you will be walled by Bronzong and Breloom.

It's just me though, as i think this is the most effective set for Tyranitar.
 
Pretty much all of the threats you've identified there can be easily taken care of by a Flygon of your own. Try replacing Jolteon with:

Flygon @ Choice Scarf
Adamant
Levitate
252 atk/4 spD/252 spe
Earthquake
Outrage
U-Turn
Stone Edge

Should outspeed and OHKO most Lucario and Infernape with EQ and Stone Edge takes care of Gyarados, but Metagross may still be a problem as he's a bit bulkier. More than anything Flygon will give you a desperately needed EQ immunity, as four of your team's members sport a weakness to it, including Magnezone's 4x weakness since you aren't running magnet rise.
 
For the record, your Lucario weakness is covered by Scarfrachi Fire Punch.

However, to deal with your other threats, I would recommend a bulky water over Jolteon. Vaporeon comes to mind, countering most Infernape and Gyarados, as well as giving wish support for the rest of your Pokémon, letting them take hit's better.

Vaporeon@Leftovers
188 HP / 252 Defence / 68 Speed
Bold
-Surf
-Wish
-Protect
-Hidden Power [ELECTRIC]

As Breloom poses a threat to this team, being able to come in and set up on Tyranitar, I would replace Thunder Punch on Jirachi with U-turn, so you can break it's Substitute.

Hope I helped :)
 
Hey Ninjaman1515 interesting team you have there, I have a few suggestions that may help your team out!

Props to you for using substitute hypnosis gengar one of my favorite gengar sets. With the lack of accuracy sure wide lens helps but with sand storm recoil and 25% from a substitute you wouldn't last very long. After looking through your potential threat list I would highly suggest the use of choice scarf rotom over gengar. This switch will help you handle lucario, metagross, infernape, and gyarados. This allows you to switch into lucario's close combat or extreme speed and ohko in return with over heat. Same for metagross it handles agility gross pretty well being able to 2hko in return with thunderbolt. Same for gyarados, scarf rotom is able to out speed +1 gyarados and ohko back with thunderbolt. You also have the ability to trick pokemon such as blissey which stops from playing its crucial part as a special defensive wall.

If you consider this change then I would also suggest you use choice band tyranitar with the same move set. I wouldnt use band tyranitar late game instead middle game where you would want to rack damage on the enemies team and band tar absolutely that with its raw power. If you were looking for a late game sweep then I would suggest you use ddtar just like Arikado suggested but band tar is better for this team. Band tar and Choice Specs jolteon both provide you a good offensive line up for you being able to hit hard with it's stab moves.
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Rotom - H @ Choice Scarf
4 HP / 252 spA / 252 Speed
Timid
~ Overheat
~ Thunderbolt
~ Shadow Ball
~ Trick

Tyranitar @ Choice Band
44 HP / 252 Attack / 214 Speed
Adamant
~ Crunch
~ Stone Edge
~ Pursuit
~ Aqua Tail

With this spread you outspeed skarmory and 2hko with stone edge. You also outspeed any rotom with willow wisp and ohko with crunch.

Good Luck with the team!
 
Thanks everyone! I think that replaceing Jolteon with Vaporeon is a good idea as I don't have any wish support, plus I had been considering that anyway. The Rotom/Gengar switch has been applied as Metagross was the only threat I was really worried about when you get down to it.
 
Since Rotom seems to be Magnezone and Gengar rolled into one does that mean I should replace Magnezone with the afore-mentioned Flygon?
 
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