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No Guard / Super Luck

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So, I was wondering why these abilities do not see much play on their respective pokemon?

No Guard, Machamp. Machamp's moves never miss. My first inclination is to use Dynamic Punch, others have.. What they do not use is Fissure which simply boggles me as it kills anything non-flying/levitating guarenteed.

SuperLuck for Honchkrow or Absol double the crit rate of your Pokemon's moves, with Zoom Lens a move like Slash has a 70% crit rate, with A set up like Focus Energy you are guarenteed to Crit every time, with a high Atk stat, one could theoretically OHKO a Blissey this way.
 
Machamp doesn't get Fissure or any OHKO move for that matter from what I can tell.

Super Luck is the only ability Absol should use. Honchkrow needs to switch in as often as possible, and Insomnia aids that.
 
IIRC, Machamp cannot get Fissure in D/P, as it was only a TM in Red, Blue and Yellow. Dynamicpunch is still a fearsome option, though.

Super Luck doesn't actually increase crit % to 100% even with optimal conditions, but the combination of it and high-critical attacks like Night Slash still results in a high crit percentage.

The reason these abilities aren't seen much isn't because they're bad; it's because Machamp, Absol and Honchkrow, even with the boost their abilities grant, aren't really seen as strong enough for standard play. Absol and Honchkrow both suffer from a combination of low speed and weak defenses that prevents them from bringing their high attack to bear. Machamp does a bit better there (it's slow, but it's relatively sturdy), but slow sweepers of its calibur are understandably being overlooked when there are beasts like Rhyperior to play with.
 
I use No Guard Machamp. It is great, hasn't failed me yet. Also, Machamp doesn't get Fissure, plain and simple. Even if it did, I wouldn't use it, that would just be being an ass. Absol also uses Super Luck far more than Pressure (When you think about Absol's fragility, there is no reason to use Pressure).

Honchkrow, however, likes Insomnia simply because it gets it an easy turn in. Switch in when Gar is gonna use hypnosis, and you have a free turn in. Super Luck is also viable, but I would prefer Insomnia.
 
too bad honchkrow only learns one high crit move

absol on the other hand packs more high crit moves IIRC

ofcourse Zoom Lens would be sexy but imo you need speed on this thing
both crit masters don't got the speed nor defences to back it up

same with machamp, meh speed with meh defence
there good with a speed boost
but who isn't?
 
What is the OP talking about? These are seen all the time on their respective pokemon. It's also full of misinformation, as crit rates cap at 50% and are only at 37.5% with super luck.
 
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