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Correctional Thread Because my other was locked because i said just lucario...


Before you ask This is a Serious team....and it's record right now is

20-1..


----Pictures in a Moment----



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Azelf @ Focus Sash
252 SPA/252 Speed/4 ATK
Naive

Psychic
Stealth Rock
Flamethrower
Explosion

Phyiscal Azelf With Stealth Rocks Lead...Should Be Better then Salamence. now that i changed this to Special With an Explosion this should help the team Alot more.


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Salamence @ Life Orb
232 Atk / 24 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive

Outrage
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Fire Blast

This should break the games wide open now that i have a Mix Salamence. With a mix Salamence like this i should be able to outspeed/tie flygons I beleive and after the Dane take them regardless of a Scarf. otherwise outrage and EQ should break the game open and ontop of that Fire Blast should knock Skarmory and Dent Bronzong.

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Gengar @ Choice Scarf
252 SPeed/252 SPA/4 HP
Modest

Shadow Ball
Hidden Power Ice
Trick
Thunderbolt

Well Gengar is Revenge Kill...Latias Killer...And Does the work it needs otherwise usually who i send in last...ALso the Potential "spin Blocker" if you will. With hidden Power Ice It Can come in and Drop Salamence Even After it's Danced, which can be a great help if Zapdos cannot do it at the time.

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Zapdos @ choice Scarf
Rash
252 SPA/232 SPeed/24 ATK

Thunderbolt
Hidden Power ice
U Turn
heat Wave

I usually put this number out early and drop all types of pokemon...people don't know how to react to a Zapdos with offensive abilitys, And it usually gets 2-3 Kills off the idea people expect the Tank Variant which i use to my advantage of course. 24 ATK FOR AN EXTREmE U TURN!!!!!!



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lucario @ life Orb
252 Atk/252 Speed/4 Hp
Adament

CC
Stone edge
Extreme Speed
Swords Dance

Standard Lucario...I was thinking about Bullet Punch over Stone Edge for double Priority and Gets Ghosts...But I don't know it works sometimes well and othertimes it's backfired. Lucario IS the only thing on this team that really OHKOS blissey which is why it is in here.

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heatran @ Choice Scarf
252 SPA/252 SPeed/4 hp
Modest

Explosion
Fire Blast
earth power
Dragon Pulse

Another revenge Killer...and Exploder on Blisseys and what not. This Number Anchers the Team and also "walls" to some extent and Revvenges alot of pokemon.... I Have it Modest Because without Skymin i see no reason for Timid as i can read most other Heatran Switch Ins.


-What I want Changed-

I Need Some type Of Stealth Rocks.....I would Also Be Able to Rapid Spin out Rocks because that Drops My Zapdos So Much....I also would like Salamenced Moved From the Lead but manage to keep it's effectiveness...I thought about Leading with Azelf and SR but i have no idea.. Still a SPinner Would Be nie...

-Whats Got changed-
Dragon Pulse Over HP ICE Props To Rey Scarface
Azelf to Lead, SR and Explosion too
Salamence Sash to Life Orb
Flamethrower to Fire Blast
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Firstly, with regards to description, I'd say that 3 whole lines is a bare minimum.

Secondly, if you want a good Mixmence moveset, you can find one here (and then scroll down to Salamence).

Thirdly, Azelf has the same base physical attack and special attack, but his special moves have more power than his physical moves (Psychic > Zen Headbutt and Flamethrower > Fire Punch).

Fourthly, Energy Ball and Thunderbolt on Gengar is pretty redundant. Sure, one hits Swampert hard and the other hits Gyarados hard, but both are hit fairly hard by Shadow Ball anyway. You would be so much better replacing one of them with HP Ice, especially since with all the dragons running rampant, ice is a good attacking type but you have no moves of that type.

Fifthly, what is the hidden power type on Zapdos?
 
Hm... I really don't understand a lot of your choices.

Physical lead Azelf? His Physical moves are weaker than their Special counterparts, the only advantage you gain from this is a slightly stronger Explosion. But honestly, you should be running either Trick or Taunt on a Lead Azelf, that's its primary draw. If you're really convinced you want to be physical, try Choice Band with some combination of Trick, U-Turn, Zen Headbutt, Elemental Punches, Explosion, and Stealth Rock.

Mence seems fairly standard, but I'd consider dropping a few attack EVs for Special attack to make his Fire Blast strong enough to take out those things you'd use it on. Additionally, I'd suggest a Naive Nature. This will boost your speed without lowering your Special Attack, at the cost of some Special Defense, which isn't a huge concern anyways. A Naive nature is needed to beat Positive Nature Scarfed base 90's and tie Positive Nature Scarfed base 100's, particularly Flygon, who is commonly scarfed to be able to revenge DDMence.

Scarf Gengar is entirely outclassed by Scarf Rotom-A, unless you want to be able to outspeed Mence after a DD or you want to trust revenging DDTar with a 70% accuracy, but your Gengar doesn't run anything to hit Mence super effectively anyways, and modest fails to outrun positive natured mence. Try Rotom-H with Discharge or Thunderbolt, Overheat, Trick, and your choice of Shadow Ball, HP Ice, HP Grass, HP Ground, or HP Fighting, depending on what kind of coverage you want and what threats you want to counter. 252 SpA and Speed, 4 HP, and a Timid nature are recommended.

You don't list your Hidden Power on Zapdos. Likely Ice or Grass, but you should state which. Additionally, I would suggest dropping either Heat Wave, the Hidden power, or U-Turn for Roost, which will give you more survivability.

As for Heatran, switch to a Timid Nature to at worst tie other Scarftran, in case it comes heads-up against them. Also consider Fire Blast over Flamethrower, it's huge boost in power is well worth the slight drop in accuracy.
 
The Azelf was a Jolly Choice Band...but someone suggested i Move it to a lead, so what could i take out and replace and still have a lead that can drop rocks?

well i could just Add HP ice on the Gengar...hmmm...


Fire blast tip taken =]
 
Mrs Officer said:
The Azelf was a Jolly Choice Band...but someone suggested i Move it to a lead, so what could i take out and replace and still have a lead that can drop rocks?
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Just replace Fire Punch and Zen Headbutt with their special counterparts Flamethrower and Psychic and move most (if not all) of your attack EVs into special attack.
 
Objection said:
Just replace Fire Punch and Zen Headbutt with their special counterparts Flamethrower and Psychic and move most (if not all) of your attack EVs into special attack.
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Ah Done....Thanks..But now i feel like i have an overwhelming amount of special Attakers.....or i'm just paranoid...Bump also lol

Wildfire...Really Roost on a Scarfed Zapdos?
 
Naive Dragon Dance mence can 6-0 you.
And Naive was only 1.3% less common than Adamant.

Switching Gengar to plus speed nature can help.
 
No...because they have to outrage in order to OHKO the Zapdos...and Usually will, then Heatran Polishes them off...they usually do get 1 Kill on me though which i don't like. The Real Problem i have is when i run into all walls
 
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