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Famine

-Intro-

yeah baby, you ever seen all offense without the use of explosion? doubtfull, but of course the police came up with it right hahaha.

just for the Record this Team is

the loss is to a hacker with 252 all pokemon, and he still only 1-0'd this team.

Wins- 3
loss- 1
Tie- 0

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Zapdos
Naive nature @ choice Scarf
252 Spa/100 hP/156 speed (i think)
thunderbolt
hidden power ice
u-turn
heat Wave

The Lead of hitter, Scarfed to out run the common lead Azelf and homosexual Infernape, you already know how he does his work after that.


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Gyarados
adament nature @ life Orb
252 attack/252 speed/6 hp
dragon dance
waterfall
stone edge
earthquake


Dance Dance Sweep sweep, Or possibly just use the speed to stone edge out another Gyarados, i was thinking about taking him out for a different water but dont know what else is as offensive as Gyarados so hes stayed.

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infernape
naive nature @ life orb
252 SpA / 192 Spd / 64 Atk

nasty plot
close combat
grass knot
flamethrower

Standard mixed ape, the plot is there for the maximum sweepage, and because we know after 1 plot it's usually almost game these days.



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salamence
252 atk/252 speed/6 atk
adament nature @ life orb
dragon dance
outrage
earthquake
brick break

With orb and Adament nature, there isn't much that this Salamence can't KO short of Hippodown, and usually i'll just dance in ones face, i put brick break on here because of the fact that i have Infernape for Skarmory, and also Gengar could dounce one, along with Zapdos, so Brick break to knock out a normal type without having to outrage is nice.

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Gengar
naive nature @ lefties
252 speed/100 atk/152 spa

sub
shadow ball
focus punch
hypnosis

I thought my team had a hol in it, this spot before was Azelf, but that pokemon just wasn't working, when i added this gengar the team seemed to click into place, with this bieng possibly the star of the team. This Gengar manages to cause all types of trouble after just getting 1 sub up, because theres nothing to switch in to plaay it, and with hypnosis it also cripples one pokemon while having a huge amount of sweeping ability.



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Cresssy Baby
bold nature @ lesties
252 HP / 200 Def / 56 SpD

sleep talk
rest
charge beam
ice beam

Well, i'm using 5 sweepers, so i thought to myself you should add a little something to it to make it hot. so I just decided to slap in a cressila and this manages to stall out all the weaknesses on this team. the only thing that could get this sleep talking Cress, is a Scizor, who i hold 3 counters for.


Team Synopsis- Well this team is honestly sweepers.....and a Cress. it works magically, with teams so defensive i manage to still be able to switch against them and i can revenege kill everything you could possibly name, this is a team i made on diamond. It hasn't lost thus far, and still won't it works to stall out what i can't think to kill with Cress, the GEngar and Infernape mixed manage to kill pretty much anything you can name as a pair. Gyarados and Salamence are there for Brute Force and usually one is left to overpower the other persons team late game. Zapdos is a scout, and the special sweeper, usually i let it get the first kill and save it for the end as it can take almost everything in a 1-1, except blissey. My only REAL weakness is the move stealth rock...


Changes-

Infernape Spread - 252 SpA / 192 Spd / 64 Atk
Gyarados Item- to life Orb
 
You probably got about 5 minutes before a mod locks this for no descriptions fix it.

I Guess I'll do a little mini-rate

Infernape only needs 192 Speed EVs to outrun everything it needs to, the rest can be put into Attack to throw a bit more Power behind those Close Combats.
 
oh thanks, i'll get right on that, lol, i just wanted to post it fast. and also i like the ape the way it is because after the plot it does alot more damage to pokemon with flamethrower and knot.
 
Mrs Officer said:
oh thanks, i'll get right on that, lol, i just wanted to post it fast. and also i like the ape the way it is because after the plot it does alot more damage to pokemon with flamethrower and knot.
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Transfering those extra speed EVs from Speed to Attack wont affect your Special Attacks output.

I'll try to explain, The Infernape your running is a bit outdated, it ran 232 Speed EVs to outrun the notorius Garchomp, but with that fellow shipped of to Ubers he only needs to outrun all base 100s, the rest can be shifted into Attack as to boost Close Combat's output and put bigger dents in Suicunes switching in along with most of Infernapes common counters, barring Rotom and Gengar.
 
Offensive team with no Stealth Rock?! I strongly suggest using the Lead Infernape set and changing Salamence to the mixed set to break down walls. Lead Infernape sets the tempo for your team, beating most other leads and getting down the all too important residual damage offensive teams abuse.

Although, now that I think about it, your team abhors Stealth Rock, with three weaknesses, so maybe you can use a Taunt lead, such as Aerodactyl or Azelf, to prevent set ups. Infernape beats most leads, but doesn't prevent their set ups. Try LeadApe first, and see how much of a problem Stealth Rock is.

After that, I would change Hidden Power [Ice] on Zapdos to Grass. Swampert will be a great block to your offensive team. You may find yourself having trouble taking it down.

As for Cresselia, I don't think it fits that well on your team. Yes, you have a reliable switch into many of the metagames threats, like dragons and Gyarados, but usually your team should be applying all the pressure it can so that these sweepers don't have time to do much to your frail team. A strong late game sweeper would be great here. Scizor makes a perfect candidate as it can also take Outrages. His steel typing makes it perfect for setting up on dragons locked in.

Life Orb on Gyarados makes Gyarados an excellent early game sweeper who can punch holes ini your opponent's defense. If Celebi or Vaporeon show up, you can switch to Scizor and Zapdos respectively, allowing you to regain momentum.
 
donovantx8 said:
Transfering those extra speed EVs from Speed to Attack wont affect your Special Attacks output.

I'll try to explain, The Infernape your running is a bit outdated, it ran 232 Speed EVs to outrun the notorius Garchomp, but with that fellow shipped of to Ubers he only needs to outrun all base 100s, the rest can be shifted into Attack as to boost Close Combat's output and put bigger dents in Suicunes switching in along with most of Infernapes common counters, barring Rotom and Gengar.
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yeah that was all i needed lol.

so What would the complete spread be?
 
Peachfuzz said:
Offensive team with no Stealth Rock?! I strongly suggest using the Lead Infernape set and changing Salamence to the mixed set to break down walls. Lead Infernape sets the tempo for your team, beating most other leads and getting down the all too important residual damage offensive teams abuse.

Although, now that I think about it, your team abhors Stealth Rock, with three weaknesses, so maybe you can use a Taunt lead, such as Aerodactyl or Azelf, to prevent set ups. Infernape beats most leads, but doesn't prevent their set ups. Try LeadApe first, and see how much of a problem Stealth Rock is.

After that, I would change Hidden Power [Ice] on Zapdos to Grass. Swampert will be a great block to your offensive team. You may find yourself having trouble taking it down.

As for Cresselia, I don't think it fits that well on your team. Yes, you have a reliable switch into many of the metagames threats, like dragons and Gyarados, but usually your team should be applying all the pressure it can so that these sweepers don't have time to do much to your frail team. A strong late game sweeper would be great here. Scizor makes a perfect candidate as it can also take Outrages. His steel typing makes it perfect for setting up on dragons locked in.

Life Orb on Gyarados makes Gyarados an excellent early game sweeper who can punch holes ini your opponent's defense. If Celebi or Vaporeon show up, you can switch to Scizor and Zapdos respectively, allowing you to regain momentum.
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yeah Stealth Rock, is a huge huge huge huge problem on this team, i was honestly thinking of adding a spinner because it's honestly that much of a Problem. I honestly thought about making these changes before, but i have no idea who to drop for these Changes, Swampert isn't really a Problem, as they get put to bed by Gengar, or let me sub up. I honestly haven't had any problem with them yet, and don't see them becoming one.

Cress for Scizor is a Maybe, Because right now Cress has been doing it's bit of the work and is the equivelent of a Rain dance on a rain dance team, and holds this whole thing together magically.

Orb on the Gyarados Is a Fantastic Idea.
 
Fland said:
right off the bat I see your dd tar weak, you might want to add a machamp over infernape perhaps?
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Yea I saw the big Tar weakness, but I usually don't like replacing members.

Agility Luke/or Specs Luke can go in Apes place resisting both T-Tar stab moves 4x or Machamp in the same manner maintaing more bulk and 2x resistances, without fearing a SE Earthquake/Fire Blast.

Luke's weaknesses are easy to exploit on this team with 5/6 being Flyers or Levitators.

You might wanna switch Gyrados to your lead making it Taunt Bulky, varient as to stop slower Stealth Rockers, like Bronzong, Swampert, Hippowdon, that ruin your team.

With Lucario on your team you need not fear Blissey so switching to a Focus Blast Gar will allow to take on other Lucarios, and Heatran without fear, on a similar note Substiute can be dropped for a Thunderbolt/Energy Ball which although unexpected on Gengar gives you a safe switch into Swampert, and the KO, also you will want to change your item to either Life Orb/Expert Belt.
 
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