National Dex Ubers Nothing Clever :( (Physical Wall Giratina) [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1]

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[SET]
name: Physical Wall
move 1: Dragon Tail
move 2: Toxic
move 3: Defog
move 4: Rest
item: Leftovers
ability: Pressure
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Tera type: Fairy / Poison

[SET COMMENTS]

* Giratina is an excellent wall on stall teams thanks to its massive mixed bulk and useful typing. This makes it an excellent check to threats such as Primal Groudon and Arceus. Giratina has useful utility with Defog and pairs well with Ho-Oh as a double Defog core. The two are able to consistently keep entry hazards off throughout the game, as Giratina can use Defog against Primal Groudon, while Ho-Oh can use Defog against defensive Eternatus. In addition, Giratina has a very valuable PP stalling ability in Pressure, allowing it to stall the PP of Choice Band Rayquaza, an extremely dangerous wallbreaker against stall.
* Dragon Tail allows Giratina to phaze setup sweepers such as Arceus, Zekrom, and Necrozma-DM while dealing respectable damage to frailer Dragon-type setup sweepers such as Rayquaza and Mega Salamence. Dragon Tail is also a great way to spread chip damage against the opposing team, especially with entry hazard support from Arceus-Dark, Eternatus, or Mega Tyranitar.
* Toxic allows Giratina to slowly damage targets such as Primal Groudon and Ho-Oh while preventing wallbreakers such as specially offensive Yveltal, Lunala, and Rayquaza from switching in freely.
* Defog allows Giratina to remove hazards from the field, aiding hazard-vulnerable allies such as Dondozo, Chansey, and Arceus-Dark. This provides stall teams with much more longevity, allowing them to outlast hazard setters such as defensive Primal Groudon and Ferrothorn. However, Giratina is unable to use Defog against Taunt Arceus-Fairy.
* Tera Fairy allows Giratina to check Palkia-O and non-Sludge Bomb Eternatus more efficiently while enabling it to emergency check the rare Zekrom and force it out with Dragon Tail.
* Tera Poison gives Giratina a resistance to Fairy as well as a useful immunity to Toxic and the ability to absorb Toxic Spikes, allowing it to effectively check Arceus-Fairy and defensive Eternatus.
* Giratina is useful early-game to scout Primal Groudon sets so that Dondozo isn’t sniped by Eruption or Overheat. Thanks to its ability to check every Primal Groudon set, Dondozo is free to preserve its HP to check threats such as Mega Salamence and Arceus.
* Throughout the game, Giratina is an excellent setup disruptor with Dragon Tail. Against balance teams, Giratina should attempt to stay on the field and spread chip damage against foes by using Toxic and then Dragon Tail on Pokemon such as Primal Groudon and Ho-Oh. Against Choice Band Rayquaza, Giratina can be sacrificed in order to waste four of Dragon Ascent’s PP if necessary, although it should not directly switch into Rayquaza.
* Giratina is easily set up on by Zacian-C, as Giratina cannot phaze it with Dragon Tail or use Toxic on it. Dondozo is an excellent teammate, as it is one of the few Pokemon that counters Zacian-C thanks to Unaware. Giratina cannot deal with Ultra Necrozma after setup, so Arceus-Dark is an excellent teammate, as it is immune to Photon Geyser and heavily punishes setup with Foul Play.
* Taunt or Refresh Arceus-Fairy easily sets up on Giratina, while Eternatus can overwhelm Giratina with Dynamax Cannon, so Chansey makes a great teammate, as it is an excellent special wall to deal with these threats.

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Well I doubt the previous QC is going to count for obvious reasons. I havn't read it, but I doubt mine will be much different. Please let me know when you've implemented it so I can stamp
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:sv/Giratina: :(

Changed the set a little so hope you don’t mind. I decided to go with Bumboclaat’s set and added Shadow Sneak as a slash with Defog since Defog isn’t completely mandatory and Shadow Sneak OHKOs Deoxys-A so why not.

[SET]
name: Physical Wall
move 1: Dragon Tail
move 2: Toxic
move 3: Defog / Shadow Sneak Defog is not droppable. It is mandatory and is a signifcant factor in Giratina's role on stall teams.
move 4: Rest
item: Leftovers
ability: Pressure
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Tera type: Fairy / Steel Poison Steel is very bad as walling Primal Groudon is a huge part of Giratina's role. Poison can be an alternative to absorb Toxic Spikes if needed.

[SET COMMENTS]

* Giratina is an excellent wall on stall teams thanks to its massive mixed bulk and its PP wasting ability in PressureRayquaza mention should go here and talk about how this enables Giratina to form a double Defog core with Ho-Oh to make it difficult to maintain entry hazards long term against stall teams. These traits allow Giratina to scout for dangerous mixed Primal Groudon sets and waste the PP of dangerous wallbreakers such as Choice Band Rayquaza.
* Dragon Tail allows Giratina to phase force out setup sweepers such as Arceus, Zekrom, and Dragon Dance Necrozma-DM while dealing respectable damage to frailer Dragon-type setup sweepers such as Rayquaza and Mega Salamence. Dragon Tail is also a great way to spread chip damage against the opposing team, especially with entry hazard support from Arceus-Dark, Eternatus, or Mega Tyranitar.
* Toxic allows Giratina to slowly damage the Pokemon it walls such as? while forcing threats such as Zygarde and Giratina-O to use Rest more often. Zygarde and Giratina-O are very odd mentions here. Zygarde generally poses no threat to stall as it is walled by Dondozo. Rest is incredibly rare on Giratina-O and simply Toxicing it is huge. Common targets of Toxic include Pokemon such as Primal Groudon, Arceus formes, and Ho-Oh. Also mention how Toxic deters stallbreakers such as specially offensive Yveltal, Choice Specs Lunala, and Choice Band Rayquaza from freely switching in.
* Defog allows Giratina to remove hazards from the field, aiding hazard vulnerable allies such as non-Heavy-Duty Boots Dondozo, Chansey, and Arceus-Dark. If Ho-Oh is chosen as the team’s Defogger instead, Shadow Sneak can be chosen, allowing Giratina to KO weakened foes while OHKOing Deoxys-A. Mentioned above, but stall almost always runs double Defog. Talk here about how pressure enables Giratina to outstall hazard setters and talk about how it interacts with common entry hazard setters. I.e. Great matchup v Primal Groudon and completely blanked by Taunt Arceus-Fairy.
* Tera Fairy allows Giratina to check Palkia-OChansey/ Blissey already wall it though I'll let QC2 decide if this should stay, non-Taunt YveltalYveltal almost always runs taunt except on scarf sets, and non-Sludge Bomb Eternatus more efficiently, while allowing Giratina to emergency check Zekrom and force it out with Dragon Tail.
* Tera Steel gives Giratina a resistance to Fairy and useful immunity to Toxic and Toxic Spikes, allowing it to effectively check Arceus-Fairy and defensive Eternatus while Defogging any Toxic Spikes from Eternatus. In addition, Tera Steel wastes additional Dragon Ascent PP from Choice Band Rayquaza, making the move less free to use in the late-game. Tera Steel is also very valuable against Trick Room, as it allows Giratina to waste Glacial Lance’s and Double Iron Bash’s PP from Calyrex-I and Melemetal respectively. Talk about Tera Poison here.
* Giratina is useful early-game to scout Primal Groudon sets so that Dondozo isn’t sniped by Eruption or Overheat. Throughout the game, Giratina is an excellent setup disruptor with Dragon Tail. Giratina can easily switch into and check Zygarde, allowing Dondozo to preserve its HP and check dangerous setup sweepers like Zacian-C and Mega Salamence instead. Dondozo can easily just setup on Zygarde. It would be better to talk about how Giratina fully counters Primal Groudon and if mentioning Dondozo talking about how it can handle the mixed sets Dondozo can't is sufficient.
*Against more passive balance teamsmore passive balance teams handle Giratina more easily, Giratina should attempt to stay on the field and spread chip damage against which pokemon? the opponent by using Toxic and then Dragon Tail. Against Choice Band Rayquaza, Giratina can be sacrificed in order to waste four of Dragon Ascent’s PP if necessary, although it should not directly switch into Rayquaza.
* Giratina is easily setup on by Zacian-C, as it cannot phase it out with Dragon Tail or use Toxic on it. Dondozo is an excellent teammate as it is one of the few Pokemon who counters can check all variants of Zacian-C after a Swords Danceredundant thanks to Unaware. Giratina cannot deal with Ultra Necrozma after setup, so Arceus-Dark is an excellent teammate, as it is immune to Photon Geyser and heavily punishes setup with Foul Play. Arceus-Dark’s Will-O-Wisp support also makes checking threats such as Arceus and physical Arceus Ground easier for Giratina.Dondozo counters these
* Giratina cannot phase out Arceus-Fairy, so it can easily be setup on, especially if the Arceus-Fairy is Taunt or Refresh. Eternatus can also overwhelm Giratina with Dynamax Cannon. Chansey makes a great teammate as it is an excellent special wall to deal with these threats. This could be reworded.

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[SET]
name: Physical Wall
move 1: Dragon Tail
move 2: Toxic
move 3: Defog
move 4: Rest
item: Leftovers
ability: Pressure
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Tera type: Fairy / Poison

[SET COMMENTS]

* Giratina is an excellent wall on stall teams thanks to its massive mixed bulk and its PP wasting ability in Pressure, allowing Giratina to waste the PP of Choice Band Rayquaza, an extremely dangerous wallbreaker against stall. Giratina is also a premier check to Primal Groudon. Should focus more on its utility and relevant resists than basically saying you'd use this solely out of Pressure for some rather limited cases, also apply the previous QC check comments on this section regarding Ho-Oh here
* Dragon Tail allows Giratina to phase setup sweepers such as Arceus, Zekrom, and Necrozma-DM while dealing respectable damage to frailer Dragon-type setup sweepers such as Rayquaza and Mega Salamence. Dragon Tail is also a great way to spread chip damage against the opposing team, especially with entry hazard support from Arceus-Dark, Eternatus, or Mega Tyranitar.
* Toxic allows Giratina to slowly damage targets such as Primal Groudon and Ho-oh Ho-Oh while preventing wallbreakers such as specially offensive Yveltal, Lunala, and Rayquaza from switching in freely.
* Defog allows Giratina to remove hazards from the field, aiding hazard vulnerable allies such as Dondozo, Chansey, and Arceus-Dark. This provides stall teams much more longevity, allowing them to outlast hazard setters such as defensive Primal Groudon and Ferrothorn. However, Giratina is unable to Defog against Taunt Arceus-Fairy.
* Tera Fairy allows Giratina to check Palkia-O and non-Sludge Bomb Eternatus more efficiently, while allowing Giratina to emergency check Zekrom clarify Zekrom is niche and force it out with Dragon Tail.
* Tera Poison gives Giratina a resistance to Fairy and useful immunity to Toxic and the ability to absorb Toxic Spikes, allowing it to effectively check Arceus-Fairy and defensive Eternatus.
* Giratina is useful early-game to scout Primal Groudon sets so that Dondozo isn’t sniped by Eruption or Overheat. Thanks to its ability to check every Primal Groudon set, Dondozo is free to preserve its HP to check threats such as Mega Salamence and Arceus.
* Throughout the game, Giratina is an excellent setup disruptor with Dragon Tail. Against balance teams, Giratina should attempt to stay on the field and spread chip damage against the opponent by using Toxic and then Dragon Tail on Pokemon such as Primal Groudon and Ho-Oh. Against Choice Band Rayquaza, Giratina can be sacrificed in order to waste four of Dragon Ascent’s PP if necessary, although it should not directly switch into Rayquaza.
* Giratina is easily setup on by Zacian-C, as it cannot phase it out with Dragon Tail or use Toxic on it. Dondozo is an excellent teammate as it is one of the few Pokemon who counters Zacian-C thanks to Unaware. Giratina cannot deal with Ultra Necrozma after setup, so Arceus-Dark is an excellent teammate, as it is immune to Photon Geyser and heavily punishes setup with Foul Play.
* Taunt or Refresh Arceus-Fairy easily sets up on Giratina while Eternatus can overwhelm Giratina with Dynamax Cannon, so Chansey makes a great teammate as it is an excellent special wall to deal with these threats.

[SET CREDITS]
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[SET]
name: Physical Wall
move 1: Dragon Tail
move 2: Toxic
move 3: Defog
move 4: Rest
item: Leftovers
ability: Pressure
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Tera type: Fairy / Poison

[SET COMMENTS]

* Giratina is an excellent wall on stall teams thanks to its massive mixed bulk and useful typing. This makes it an excellent check to threats such as Primal Groudon and Arceus. Giratina has useful utility with Defog, (RC) and pairs well with Ho-Oh as a double Defog core. The two are able to consistently keep entry hazards off throughout the game, (AC) as Giratina can use Defog against Primal Groudon, (AC) while Ho-Oh can use Defog against defensive Eternatus. In addition, (AC) Giratina has a very valuable PP wasting stalling ability in Pressure, allowing it to waste stall the PP of Choice Band Rayquaza, an extremely dangerous wallbreaker against stall.
* Dragon Tail allows Giratina to phase phaze setup sweepers such as Arceus, Zekrom, and Necrozma-DM while dealing respectable damage to frailer Dragon-type setup sweepers such as Rayquaza and Mega Salamence. Dragon Tail is also a great way to spread chip damage against the opposing team, especially with entry hazard support from Arceus-Dark, Eternatus, or Mega Tyranitar.
* Toxic allows Giratina to slowly damage targets such as Primal Groudon and Ho-Oh while preventing wallbreakers such as specially offensive Yveltal, Lunala, and Rayquaza from switching in freely.
* Defog allows Giratina to remove hazards from the field, aiding hazard-vulnerable (add hyphen) allies such as Dondozo, Chansey, and Arceus-Dark. This provides stall teams with much more longevity, allowing them to outlast hazard setters such as defensive Primal Groudon and Ferrothorn. However, Giratina is unable to use Defog against Taunt Arceus-Fairy.
* Tera Fairy allows Giratina to check Palkia-O and non-Sludge Bomb Eternatus more efficiently, (RC) while allowing Giratina enabling it to emergency check the rare Zekrom and force it out with Dragon Tail.
* Tera Poison gives Giratina a resistance to Fairy and as well as a useful immunity to Toxic and the ability to absorb Toxic Spikes, allowing it to effectively check Arceus-Fairy and defensive Eternatus.
* Giratina is useful early-game to scout Primal Groudon sets so that Dondozo isn’t sniped by Eruption or Overheat. Thanks to its ability to check every Primal Groudon set, Dondozo is free to preserve its HP to check threats such as Mega Salamence and Arceus.
* Throughout the game, Giratina is an excellent setup disruptor with Dragon Tail. Against balance teams, Giratina should attempt to stay on the field and spread chip damage against the opponent foes by using Toxic and then Dragon Tail on Pokemon such as Primal Groudon and Ho-Oh. Against Choice Band Rayquaza, Giratina can be sacrificed in order to waste four of Dragon Ascent’s PP if necessary, although it should not directly switch into Rayquaza.
* Giratina is easily setup set up on by Zacian-C, as it Giratina cannot phase phaze it out with Dragon Tail or use Toxic on it. Dondozo is an excellent teammate, (AC) as it is one of the few Pokemon who that counters Zacian-C thanks to Unaware. Giratina cannot deal with Ultra Necrozma after setup, so Arceus-Dark is an excellent teammate, as it is immune to Photon Geyser and heavily punishes setup with Foul Play.
* Taunt or Refresh Arceus-Fairy easily sets up on Giratina, (AC) while Eternatus can overwhelm Giratina with Dynamax Cannon, so Chansey makes a great teammate, (AC) as it is an excellent special wall to deal with these threats.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
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Quality checked by:
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https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
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