Well, Smogon, I've lurked a little bit and used your resources a lot. Time to post? Anyways. I went back to Pokemon just a little while ago and decided to stop hopping around on teams purely on Shoddy. So I'm dabbling to create worthwhile teams on Wifi! I was team building a few times and I hit a team that worked pretty well, so I'm putting it up for critique. Remember though, this team is for WIFI, and I will not PokeSav, or anything of the sort. Legendaries are ok, providing I havent caught them yet (which I haven't much on Silver), but I will not be breeding for perfect Hidden Powers. So without further adueie (sp?)!
At A Glance
Movesets
Swampert @ Leftovers
Relaxed
252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Att
Stealth Rock
Ice Beam
Earthquake
Roar
Standard Mixpert Lead, nothing special. Stealth Rock cause its Stealth Rock, EQ for STAB and the ground move I really needed, Ice Beam helps Dragons and Gliscor, Roar because I decided I needed a phazer. I'll go over it more in depth in my reasoning section/
Machamp @ Leftovers
Adamant - No Guard
252 Att, 252 HP, 4 Spd
Rest
Sleep Talk
Dynamic Punch
Ice Punch
Status absorber, deals with breloom and the like, can take paralysis and burns with really cripple the rest of my team. Dynamic Punch is rediculous on him. Im condering dropping Ice Punch for Stone Edge, Thunder Punch, or Payback
Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 SpAtt
Wish
Protect
Surf
Ice Beam
Maybe its me but I find Wish to be almost the most useful move in the game. Since my return I couldn't imagine running a team without it. And with my Wifi happening, Vaporeon is the best option. Wish and protect are obvious. Surf for STAB, Ice Beam for Dragons and Gliscor. Vaporeon also serves as a nice Scizzor counter, as he can take a +4 Bullet Punch, from my experience, and deals near 50% with Surf.
Gengar @ Choice Scarf
Modest
252 SpAtt, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Shadow Ball
Tbolt
Focus Blast
Energy Ball
Here comes the more offensive portion. Scarf Gengar, outspeeds everything basically, including those pesky DD'ers (yes thats more dragon support). He can throw off teams and bring hurt. Shadow Ball STAB, Tbolt coverage and Gyrados, Focus Blast coverage and TTar, Energy Ball for Swampert. Trick > Energy Ball maybe? Probably. But yeah
Salamence @ Choice Specs
Modest
252 SpAtt, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Draco Meteor
Flamethrower
Hydro Pump
Dragon Pulse
Interesting? It works. I mean I really end up using Draco Meteor then switching out most of the time, but it works, I swear. Hydro Pump and Flamethrower offer some coverage and dragon pulse is for me retaining my SpAtt when I need some Dragon STAB.
Lucario @ Life Orb
Adamant
252 Att, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Sword Dance
Extremespeed
Crunch
Close Combat
Good old Lucario. The underdog. Never used him. Seemed good when you team prepared for it. I planned him to be the crux of the team, a late game sweeper that doesnt come out till im sure all the counters are eliminated, but more often then not i don't use him... Still good though. He has saved me a couple times.
My Thoughts
Like I said, I wanted Lucario to be the star of the show here, as it seems to me he has severely dwindled in shoddy usage since a while back. I'm an American, so yeah, underdogs ftw.
Well, Lucario's Fire weak, and I really like Wish, as I said. It seemed to me that an obvious choice for the job was Vaporeon.
Lucario still had 2 weakness: Fighting and Ground. However, he also has a strategic weakness. His speed isnt as hot as one would like. So to compliment all his weaknesses, I went with something immune to Fighting and Ground and that could outspeed basically everything. Scarfgar!
Here things got tricky. I couldnt quite pick a lead. I really wanted a phazer, more for scouting reason than to actually phaze, but I didnt want sandstorm, for residual or for Wifi Acid Rain. I also needed the games prize move: Stealth Rock. Someone bulkymon works well with Wish, so I chose Swampert. Electric Resist Helped too.
Salamence... Usually I dont like using the leaderboard giants... but I guess a Specs set is ok... Right? Anyways. Immune to Groud, Resist Fight and Fire, his Ice weakness is covered with Vaporeon and Lucario. Plus I love throwing trick sets at people.
Another tough one... At a glance, my team was weak to Burn and Paralysis. Someone who could heal would be nice. I wasn't looking for anything specific on this one, more of a filler, but lets face it, No Guard Dynamic Punch is simply obnoxious. He's probably the most up for change. But hey that's what an RMT is for right?
Threat List
Woohoo my least favorite part :dazed:
Anyways...
At A Glance
Movesets
Swampert @ Leftovers
Relaxed
252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Att
Stealth Rock
Ice Beam
Earthquake
Roar
Standard Mixpert Lead, nothing special. Stealth Rock cause its Stealth Rock, EQ for STAB and the ground move I really needed, Ice Beam helps Dragons and Gliscor, Roar because I decided I needed a phazer. I'll go over it more in depth in my reasoning section/
Machamp @ Leftovers
Adamant - No Guard
252 Att, 252 HP, 4 Spd
Rest
Sleep Talk
Dynamic Punch
Ice Punch
Status absorber, deals with breloom and the like, can take paralysis and burns with really cripple the rest of my team. Dynamic Punch is rediculous on him. Im condering dropping Ice Punch for Stone Edge, Thunder Punch, or Payback
Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 SpAtt
Wish
Protect
Surf
Ice Beam
Maybe its me but I find Wish to be almost the most useful move in the game. Since my return I couldn't imagine running a team without it. And with my Wifi happening, Vaporeon is the best option. Wish and protect are obvious. Surf for STAB, Ice Beam for Dragons and Gliscor. Vaporeon also serves as a nice Scizzor counter, as he can take a +4 Bullet Punch, from my experience, and deals near 50% with Surf.
Gengar @ Choice Scarf
Modest
252 SpAtt, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Shadow Ball
Tbolt
Focus Blast
Energy Ball
Here comes the more offensive portion. Scarf Gengar, outspeeds everything basically, including those pesky DD'ers (yes thats more dragon support). He can throw off teams and bring hurt. Shadow Ball STAB, Tbolt coverage and Gyrados, Focus Blast coverage and TTar, Energy Ball for Swampert. Trick > Energy Ball maybe? Probably. But yeah
Salamence @ Choice Specs
Modest
252 SpAtt, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Draco Meteor
Flamethrower
Hydro Pump
Dragon Pulse
Interesting? It works. I mean I really end up using Draco Meteor then switching out most of the time, but it works, I swear. Hydro Pump and Flamethrower offer some coverage and dragon pulse is for me retaining my SpAtt when I need some Dragon STAB.
Lucario @ Life Orb
Adamant
252 Att, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Sword Dance
Extremespeed
Crunch
Close Combat
Good old Lucario. The underdog. Never used him. Seemed good when you team prepared for it. I planned him to be the crux of the team, a late game sweeper that doesnt come out till im sure all the counters are eliminated, but more often then not i don't use him... Still good though. He has saved me a couple times.
My Thoughts
Like I said, I wanted Lucario to be the star of the show here, as it seems to me he has severely dwindled in shoddy usage since a while back. I'm an American, so yeah, underdogs ftw.
Well, Lucario's Fire weak, and I really like Wish, as I said. It seemed to me that an obvious choice for the job was Vaporeon.
Lucario still had 2 weakness: Fighting and Ground. However, he also has a strategic weakness. His speed isnt as hot as one would like. So to compliment all his weaknesses, I went with something immune to Fighting and Ground and that could outspeed basically everything. Scarfgar!
Here things got tricky. I couldnt quite pick a lead. I really wanted a phazer, more for scouting reason than to actually phaze, but I didnt want sandstorm, for residual or for Wifi Acid Rain. I also needed the games prize move: Stealth Rock. Someone bulkymon works well with Wish, so I chose Swampert. Electric Resist Helped too.
Salamence... Usually I dont like using the leaderboard giants... but I guess a Specs set is ok... Right? Anyways. Immune to Groud, Resist Fight and Fire, his Ice weakness is covered with Vaporeon and Lucario. Plus I love throwing trick sets at people.
Another tough one... At a glance, my team was weak to Burn and Paralysis. Someone who could heal would be nice. I wasn't looking for anything specific on this one, more of a filler, but lets face it, No Guard Dynamic Punch is simply obnoxious. He's probably the most up for change. But hey that's what an RMT is for right?
Threat List
Woohoo my least favorite part :dazed:
Anyways...
Aerodactyl - Wait, people still consider him a threat?
Azelf - Anything offensive Gengar can come in on, unless its Scarfed. Any Leads I'll probably SR, hope he doesn't Taunt. If he does, switch to Mence, take advantage of the fact he hasn't set up SR.
Blissey - Machamp and Lucario...
Bronzong - See Aerodactyl. Can be worn down by almost any member of the team, preferably Mence for Flamethrower.
Celebi - Somewhat troublesome. If it doesn't run Twave, Mence can come in on Leaf Storms and Grass Knots directed at Vaporeon and Swampert. Gengar can come in for a revenge kill/forced switch
Dragonite - I think I have enough Dragon slaying stuff in here.
Dusknoir - Gengar can fire Shadow Balls and non-Shadow Sneak sets. Mence can nail it with Draco Meteor. Neither care too much about burn.
Electivire - Not a threat
Empoleon - Even after Agility, Gengar outspeeds and can deal with it with Tbolt
Flygon - Anti-Dragon Support, Gengar can outspeed every variant except maybe JollyScarf
Forretress - Mence is great, Vaporeon is good, Gengar doesnt do too bad. My SpAtt Squad basically
Gengar - My team has trouble with ghost types, the only resist being Lucario, which Gengar can still OHKO with Focus Blast, while I can't hit it with Extremespeed. However I can hit any nonscarf variant with my own, and even hope for a speed tie, provididng it's not Timid.
Gliscor - I packed the Ice moves mainly for how well he counters Lucario and how obnoxious he is in sand. However sand isn't as common in Wifi, should be fine.
Gyrados - My only real thing here is Gengar, still outspeeds after a DD, OHKO Tbolt unless its got Wacan.
Heatran - Troublefreakingsome. I can switch in with Vappy or Swapert and hope for the best, but a lot of times I get toxic'd and it switches out before I can do significant damage. Usually I can find a way to kill it/get around it though. Nonscarf'd are stopped by Lucario.
Heracross - Flamethrower Salamence.
Hippowdon - Dont plan on seeing these much in Wifi, but Mence and Vappy get it done.
Infernape - Vappy, Mence, Swampert if it doesnt have Grass Knot
Jirachi - Most obnoxious thing ever. pfft. Hopefully swampert is alive and well. FlinchScarf variants can be stopped somewhat by him, vappy, and luke, while Swampert alone is my sole good resolution to everything else.
Jolteon - Gengar outspeeds all (who would run scarfjolt?), swampert can deal with anything non-HPGrass
Kingdra - Without any boosts, Mence outspeeds. Vappy and swampert stall well, machamp can confuse and whhatnot.
Latias - Vappy/Swampert @ Ice Beam, maybe catch it on the switch with stuff. Lucario can crunch/extremespeed it if necessary.
Lucario - Stopped by Swampert, Mence, own Lucario
Machamp - Broken. Idk. Usually I lose 2 mons off it. For lead, I try EQ with swampert, if i get dynamic'd I switch to gengar and blast away with Shadow Ball, if I break a substitute, I do the same.
Magnezone - My only steel type is Lucario, who can hold his own against Magnezone. Machamp, Swampert, and Mence work it out, gotta be cautios of scarf though.
Mamoswine - Vappy and Machamp are main solutions, if theyre dead, Swampert can do what he can hopefully.
Metagross - Vappy, Swampert, Mence
NInjask - Phaze w/ Swampert
Roserade - Switch to Machamp on SLeep powder and Mence on leafstorm/grass knot. My team is ok against toxic spikes for the most part.
Rotom Formes - Dont exist in Wifi iirc?
Salamence - All that dragon/revenge kill junk.
Scizzor - Vappy is main counter, Swampert is alright, Mence if Im desperate, Lucario works too
Skarmory - Mence, Gengar. Vappy to some extent.
Smeargle - Erm.... yeah...
Snorlax - Phaze if its stackedd too many curses, dynamic/closecombat otherwise.
Starmie - W/out scard, gengar handles. however it's troublesome if he'sout.
Suicune - Dynamic/Closecombat once more? No plans lmao. Phaze with Swampert on Crocune.
Swampert - Thats what energy ball is for! However Swampert always gets worn down eventually.
Tentacruel - yeah.
Togekiss - Gengar, mence can deal.
Tyranitar - Dont plan on seeing him in Wifi, but basically all my mons bring the hurt on it anyways.
Vaporeon - Gengar, Lucario/Machamp if Im desperate
Weavile - Machamp/Lucario, preferably the former in case of lowkick
Zapdos - Mence to an extent, mostly gengar and machamp
So anyways, there's my RMT, thanks in advance, and if there are any clarification issues feel free to ask! No flames please, though arguements are welcome!
