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:Snivy:LC PokeAAA has BANNED Snivy!:Snivy:

Idk how I missed this, but it's banned now. Why this is banned should be obvious, Contrary is really dumb and allows it to delete a lot of things. Any subsequent bans will probably come after council gets a VL out, but Mienfoo, Shellder, and Magnemite are currently what are being looked at as potential bans. If anyone wants to help with the VL or any other resources, I will probably be active in the LC Mashups channel of the OMM discord server.
 
:Snivy:LC PokeAAA has BANNED Snivy!:Snivy:

Idk how I missed this, but it's banned now. Why this is banned should be obvious, Contrary is really dumb and allows it to delete a lot of things. Any subsequent bans will probably come after council gets a VL out, but Mienfoo, Shellder, and Magnemite are currently what are being looked at as potential bans. If anyone wants to help with the VL or any other resources, I will probably be active in the LC Mashups channel of the OMM discord server.

Idk why :Mienfoo: isn´t banned, when I played the meta I immediately recognize how dumb it is. Can´t be flinched, can´t be intimidated, can heal by switching and High Jump Kick does absurd damage even without investment. You slap things like Mind´s Eye for hitting ghosts without risk and it pretty much disrupt and break most of the tier with little effort. And I don´t talk about :Shellder: because it seems pretty obvious.
 
Anyways. The Tiering action for Tradeabilities are fast and on track, so, I announce that:

:Raging Bolt: Raikou with Neck: this guy is a really fun mon to use, but also an almost unstoppable one. Rising Voltage is one of the strongest moves in the game, and when you combine this with priority Thunderclap, Strong complementary STAB and the posibility of being supported easily with ETerrain and being good in any weather besides Sand, Raging Bolt cannot be really walled, forcing you use Ground mons and Tera Ground to try and stop him. And even with that, only Amnesia Clodsire is a real switch-in to him and his powerful secondary attacks, other variants of Clodsire are beated by Ice Weather Ball or Specs Draco Meteor, and Iron Treads isn´t just bulky enough without Assault Vest, while also being outclassed as a removal option, and loses to Fire/Water Weather Ball.

:Alomomola: Regenerator: Now you can only use up to 2 Regenerator Mons (and I´m being generous with this) because of how easy they are to stack into a team, while being incredibly difficult to kill and having moves to support his team with no risk, this also comes in handy with the next restriction.

:Roaring Moon: Recovery Trademarks: For now, specifically Roost, Recover, Soft-Boiled and Slack Off, which are the reliable ones, are going to be restricted to only one per team. This is going to be most of a testing action to see if this doesn´t interferes with using it as a normal move, because, as trademarks, those are just better Regenerator.

Anyways, this is all, the code is going to be updated in a few moments, and I want to ask y´all a question:

Do you think that :Excadrill: is worth testing?

Even if the combination of Sandstorm + Sand Rush + Sand Force + Mold Breaker sounds terrifying, the Speed Creep in this tier has been so big that his sweeping potential can be highly hindered. Don´t be silly tho, it´s still a powerful wallbreaker and the most reliable Rapid Spinner with his atributtes, potentially sweeping most bulkier teams, and force offensive ones to play very carefully. With the Drill testing also comes the posibility of a second chance for Raging Bolt, due to obtaining a new and more reliable offensive check than Iron Treads.

Well, that´s all for now, see ya!
 
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Hello, this message comes directly from the OM Workshop, which is where I thought it was supposed to be posted, fortunately I've been redirected here by kind people, I hope this is the right place to post this, if it's not I apologize.

Scaled Hackmons!

Metagame premise: This format would be using scalemons scaled stats along with hackmons unlimited possibilities, increasing the overall viability of every Pokémon.

Potential bans and threats: Sure-hit bans would be Wonder Guard, due to how it would turn the meta into type combination selection and ignoring abilities only. Neutralizing Gas, given how easily it would dominate with Knock Off (really big deal, considering how present eviolite would be on a lot of mons). Huge Power and Pure Power, there are mons with 200 base atk, clearly doubling their already overwhelming stat is not needed.
Common threats would be Pokémon with good stats distribution, such as Abra, Gastly, Darumaka, essentially any mon that reaches 150 speed and offensive stat while scaled, becomes an extremely scary sweeper. On the other hand, eviolite-mons would give these mons a big wall to stumble upon, the best example is probably Munchlax, starring huge hp and spd. (reminder that you can use the command /scale [mon] on showdown to see scaled stats)

Questions for the community: How should I address too good stat distributions? Would you limit their items and/or abilities? What about their moves? What about mons with middling distributions? How would you work on a mon with 100 in every stat? Let me know!
 
Here we come...

Because I've been busy and I couldn't see the Meta develop fully, I wanted to know y'all opinions on the Tradeabilities Tier!


That's all for now, see ya!

EDIT: 1 is Lower and 5 is Higher in the questions

Based on the little results of this, I´m gonna announce the changes that are going to be made!

  1. :Pawmi: Terastalization is added to the Watchlist
  2. :Cyclizar: Shed Tail is removed from the Watchlist
  3. :Clefable: Clefable is added to the Watchlist
  4. :Light Clay: Reflect and Light Screen are added to the Watchlist

We´re also gonna keep a closer eye to all inmediate methods to duplicate the speed, Growth, the Sun/Rain Rocks and a trio of mons (:Reuniclus:, :Clodsire:, :Mabosstiff:) but this ones are not priority in this moment.

That´s all! See ya!
 
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good morning any Godly Power fans. it is time to announce that ctproonie217 and Chromate have both stepped down from council. I will step down from head and give The Hisui Region the keys to drive the tier (note: I will still remain on council for a bit). It is frankly overdue that a change in leadership is necessary due to consistently stagnating for a while (primarily my fault), and its time for some fresh faces to get the ball rolling.

Anyways, dreepy will be joining us as we enter a new era!
 
Well, it´s time to make changes.

Even if most people find Tradeabilities as an enjoyable tier, is also true that is a pretty wacky tier where collides the extremely sturdy walls and the "I can´t be outspeed" threats, so, I´m gonna change some of that.

:Walking Wake: Agility and :Roaring Moon: Tailwind are now restricted!

:Clefable: Clefable, :Damp Rock: Damp Rock, :Heat Rock: Heat Rock, :Barraskewda: Rain Dance + Swift Swim and :Lilligant-Hisui: Sunny Day + Chlorophyll are banned!

  • Agility and Tailwind: these inmediate speed boosts are extremely threatening for offensive teams, and with the abusers being particularly powerful and fast on their own, they can threaten defensive structures too, and unlike Rock Polish, with his only real user being Glimmora, these are widely distributed, so they can make any mon harder to check
  • Clefable: This is a centralizing and hard to beat mon for almost every archetype: can´t be chipped, ignore your stat boosts, reliable recovery and if your unlucky enough, it can even infatuate you sometimes, also can boosts both of his defenses so it can potentially be unkillable, so I hope this action make sense
  • Damp and Heat Rock: These weathers are absurd on his own right in this meta, but being able to maintain them for longer is absolutely insane, making even unplayable matchs for some archetypes
  • Rain Dance + Swift Swim and Sunny Day + Chlorophyll: this are basically the same as the Agility and Tailwind ones, but also modyfing weather in his favor and gaining an extra power boost, so there´s not much else to explain here (also, it´s not as a whole, is the combination of both in one Pokemon)

Also, :Clodsire: Clodsire, :Kingdra: Kingdra, :Reuniclus: Reuniclus and :Walking Wake: Walking Wake enter properly to the watchlist (I will keep an eye on :Mabosstiff: but for personal pride reasons, I´m not putting it in a more public position than this)

I´ll also consider :Iron Valiant: Trick and :Noivern: Switcheroo, but because they´re more of an annoying strat, don´t take this last paragraph too seriously.

And that´s all, I´m updating the code now, I was thinking on making unbans, but thats going to be when the tier settles more, see ya around in PS!
 
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:Mienfoo:LC PokeAAA has BANNED Mienfoo and Shellder!:Shellder:

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Mienfoo was practically impossible to really wall thanks to Inner Focus giving Intimidate immunity and the sheer power of Reckless HJK + Adaptability, which could consistently 2HKO opposing Fluffy Mienfoo without chip (156 Atk Adaptability Mienfoo High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 196 Def Eviolite Fluffy Mienfoo: 10-12 (47.6 - 57.1%) -- 80.9% chance to 2HKO), and practically every team needed their second Regen user to be a Mienfoo check, such as Regen Snubbull, who couldn't Intimidate Mienfoo, but had the bulk to take a HJK and OHKO back with Play Rough.

Shellder with Shell Smash could just break through teams who were unprepared for it, with variety in AAAbilities allowing it to potentially break through teams with checks or just outright ignore them, with abilities such as Technician making Rock Blast and Icicle Spear effectively STABs, Adaptability making Liquidation even more threatening, or SoR which can boost all of Shellder's moves with the drawback of being revealed on switch in, while Anti-Priority such as Dazzling, Shellder could make any revenge killing attempts by a priority user such as Stunky or the now banned Mienfoo ineffective.
 
We ball.

:Cutiefly: :Aipom: :Qwilfish-Hisui: :Greavard: :Sandshrew-Alola: :Drilbur:

I wanted to post this LC Mix and Mega Team because I feel this is a good one.

Based in one that Clas passed me, I modified it enough to say that is mine now.

  • :Cutiefly: Cutiefly: It puts Sticky Web, and that´s pretty much it. :Manectite: provides nice boosts to Speed and SpA and a little more bulk and with Intimidate, sometimes you can survive a hit. Skill Swap so you can place webs in front of annoying :Sablenite:/:Diancite:/:Absolite: users.
  • :Aipom: Aipom: It´s fast, hits hard. There´s not much else to say about him, has good coverage. I would love him to had Quick Attack but it is what it is.
  • :Qwilfish-Hisui: Qwilfish: This mon is an absolute beast, even if it can´t Mega Evolve, it doesn´t need to. Intimidate and a nice bulk with :Eviolite: allow him to setup easily, and then score kills with his good coverage in STABS + Liquidation.
  • :Greavard: Greavard: it has great combination of attacks and priority, even if it´s walled by Vullaby. Mostly for Prankster Destiny Bond which is particularly useful to stop threats, but can hit hard on his own. I would use Golett if it had DB tho.
  • :Sandshrew-Alola: Snowshrew: This thing has almost no switch-ins with Technician Triple Axel, great coverage in Earthquake and really strong priority in Ice Shard. At the start I thought of changing Stealth Rock for Swords Dance, but Rocks have been useful in all matches and with his horrible typing it doesn´t have much opportunity to set up and is pretty overkill.
  • :Drilbur: Drilbur: My mole boi, much people saw it as a bad Pokemon, but in this time he can shine fully. Pinsirite give it the secondary Flying Typing and Aerilate ability, making him have one of the best typing defensively and offensively and an unblockable Rapid Spin. Swords Dance so you can skyrocket his damage output

And that´s all for now, hope you like this one, see ya around!
 
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HELLO men and LinkCode, it is toxic hater roomvoice here back with another om mashup megatherad post

if anyone is interested in godly gift shared power, ultra mix, or monotype bh and would like to see those guys become relevant again please dm me on discord @thehisuiregion that would be much appreciated especially ultra mix dawg how on earth are you supposed to make a vr for this

these three metas have barely any or no gen 9 resources but they were pretty popular for at least some time in gen 8 and i’ve been getting back into omms and ps lately so i wanted to try to help get them revived
 
Moving forward.

As another change to the Metagame, I happily announce the unban of two mons that seem fair enough on this cranky metagame that is Tradeabilities:

:Baxcalibur: Baxcalibur and :Palafin: Palafin are now unbanned from Tradeabilities!

Baxcalibur is just basically and slower version of Roaring Moon, and with the former being already free and considered "balanced", Baxcalibur has no proven reason to be banned, and could be a nice addition to Snow. I´m going to watch over him a little because it has a combination that Roaring Moon couldn´t achieve, that being Dragon Dance + Swords Dance.

Palafin is a mon that needs a lot of prep and team support, and also don´t have particularly strong Trademarks outside of Rain Dance or Bulk Up, which is something that is already strong in a lot of other mons, while also posing nice utility in Haze. There´s also the possible factor of his trademark getting removed once it transforms, giving him a disadvantage over other mons.

Also possible bans coming soon. Code is gonna be updated as soon as possible, see ya around!
 
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By popular request

:Walking Wake: Walking Wake is banned from Tradeabilities

Sun stronger soldier. Walking Wake is a mon that I found really strong but fairly not broken at the start of the Metagame, this, however, is not a shared vision: Walking Wake under the Sun that can be provided by himself or his allies is capable of OHKOing or 2HKOing everything on the metagame not called Clodsire or Blissey. Even if it can be softened with Light Screen support, not all teams can afford to carry this, and Walking Wake still do considerable damage through it. Even after the Agility restriction, Walking Wake adapted himself to almost don't care about this: Scary Face that allows It to outspeed and force switches with every entry, Sunny Day to support himself with a Speed or Special Attack boost or even Rain Dance to surprise his opponents (even thought in this scenario is just a worst Kingdra), Walking Wake blast almost all of the meta, while his only counters are relegated to passive walls that other members of his Team can easily take care of.
The Code is gonna be updated as soon as posible, see ya around!

Also, :Lilligant: Growth is gonna be added to the Watchlist!
 
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As a quickban from the last action

:Abomasnow: Aurora Veil is getting restricted! :Ninetales-Alola: Ninetales-Alola and :Baxcalibur: Baxcalibur enters the Watchlist of Tradeabilities!

  • Aurora Veil, because of the Trademark activating after the weather change, guarantees an Aurora Veil on Switch-in, which is really messed up, considering you don´t have to risk a turn to set the equivalent to a Reflect and a Light Screen, that can stack with the aforementioned and also in a weather that grants a 50% boost to the Ice Types defense, and also grants Ninetales-Alola a Evasion Boost thanks to Snow Cloak, and that leads to the second action.
  • Ninetales-Alola, even thought just got nerfed, is still gaining a Defense and Evasion Boost only by switching in, things that can make really hard to stop Aurora Veil or even just take out Ninetales with a strong super-effective hit.
  • Baxcalibur, Snow strongest soldier, does the exact same he did to OU but with a considerable boost: he now can Dragon Dance on the switch-in, making stopping his sweeps even harder, even if Haze and Defense boosting Trademarks are much common here.

Very well then, this also announce that :Clodsire: Clodsire and :Reuniclus: Reuniclus are heading out of the watchlist. The code is gonna be updated as soon as possible, see ya!
 
We are fundamentally changing how room prize winner, spotlight cycles, and daily tours work! I won't get into a lengthy explanation, but here are the main factors that matter:
  • We are replacing how room prize winner works! Instead of basing them from the daily tours and daily leaderboard, which not everyone can play, we will instead be using Scrappie's leaderboard to determine the cycle's room prize winner.
  • Daily tours are no longer a thing. We've not been setting them really at all for the past couple months, and as such no real need for them anymore. This also aligns with the goal of basing room prize winner with overall room activity and performance rather than a couple specific tours. We will still aim to set these previous daily tours at least somewhat consistently, though.
  • Random battle tours will not be included in the Scrappie leaderboard anymore. This is to increase interest in building for OM Mashups, which is a huge portion of what makes the room what it is. We will still set random battle tours, of course, but we don't want them to inflate the leaderboard.
These changes will go live with the next spotlight change!
 
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After internal testing of some Pokemon, the Tradeabilities meta is taking a 360º turn

:Braviary-Hisui: Braviary-Hisui, :Chien-Pao: Chien-Pao and :Walking Wake: Walking Wake are unbanned

  • Even with his combination of powerful abilities, Hisuian Braviary is severely hindered by the fact that it now can´t boost his speed on switch-in via Agility/Tailwind, making his low speed very exploitable, Sheer Force, while granting a significant 30% boost to all of his relevant moves, it now makes Esper Wing not an option because you cannot rise his speed with it, and even with Tinted Lens making his attacking combo unresisted, Psychic/Flying is still very poor defensively, even with his good bulk, being weak to powerful meta types like Dark and Ice, weak to Stealth Rocks, and not carrying any particularly good resistance outside of the Ground Inmunity hurts it. Still a threat with sets like Scary Face or Calm Mind to force switchs/make major damage, but this is something that a lot of Pokemon can do, so Braviary-Hisui gets freed
  • Chien-Pao, seeming absurd at first glance, is, in most scenarios, a balanced pick, somehow. It doesn´t have any ways to boost his speed, and it´s pretty frail, with a bad defensive typing. It, however, has good traits with it: is naturally pretty fast, has a good STAB combination in Ice and Dark, has good coverage in Sacred Sword, has Haze to remove offensive Pokemon speed boosts, compensating that it can´t boost his own and defensive Pokemon defense boosts, which is huge in helping against defensive structures, also has Recover to maintain itself healthy troughthout the match, and also has priority for revenge-killing purposes. Being probably the most controversial pick here giving his good traits outshine his bad ones, after internal testing, I think it´s fair for everyone to give it a shot and show his thoughts on it, because there are also other things that compete with it for a teamslot as an Ice Type, like Baxcalibur being a bulkier Ice Type option with a good stat boosting trademark attached to it + Scale Shot to further increase his speed, is inmune to burns and heal itself in snow, or Cetitan, that can pose as an absurd threat to unprepared teams with his +6 attack on switch and Snow speed boost, unlike Chien-Pao who can be more manageable in that aspect, and Iron Bundle being an even faster Ice type which extra speed boost is not attached to a stat thing but to a field condition provided by himself, making him have more control of the battlefield than Chien-Pao
  • Walking Wake, even after being considered broken by a majority, it´s been shown that the other weathers have equally stronger exponents, if not even stronger: Kingdra is a special water type attacker that can bypass Clodsire by being able to ignore his special defense boosts with critical hits, something that Walking Wake cannot do, the aforementioned snow threats that are even harder to stop than Wake for most team structures, and the fact that it has to choose between a Speed or Special Attack Boost from the sun, leaving it prone to different answers depending on his choice (and after more testing, Sticky Web showed himself unreliable because of the high popularity/viability of Maushold/Cinccino) and Scary Face, even if good at forcing switches, not a entirely reliable outspeeding method, and is not even as hard to outspeed at +1 with his base 109 speed stat, being slower than things like Tidy Up Maushold/Cinccino, Electric Terrain Iron Bundle, Rock Polish Glimmora, Snow Cetitan, Rain Kingdra, not even mentioning that Sun is harder to maintain that something like Snow with Ninetales-Alola being a more solid natural setter than Torkoal or even Kantonian Ninetales, Slowking-Galar Chilly Reception and an extra Snowscaper, or Rain with Pelipper being able to pivot on his own, meaning that Wake has to provide himself the sun most of the time. It´s still a very capable end-game threat and mid-game wallbreaker with his powerful sun boosted Hydro Steam, but with the new meta developed since the days of his ban, is not nearly as broken as it was considered to be.

That´s all for today, also :Poliwrath: Belly Drum and the :Icy Rock: Icy Rock are entering to the watchlist. The code is gonna be updated as soon as possible, see ya around!
 
Hello Everyone. The Tradeabilities guy here.

Unlike past posts that are updates of the meta, this is something regarding the functioning of the meta itself

The ruleset of Tradeabilities isn´t working correctly

All the rules that involve banning the combination of 2 factors in the same Pokemon (Rain Dance + Swift Swim for example) are being completely ignored at the moment the challenge is made, this is probably regarding Pokebilities not being the teambuilder format, so it doesn´t lecture the other abilities outside of the Trademark until in-battle.

This is also true for the limit of one trademark rule that is being applied to the recovery trademarks, so yeah, it is counted as you can only use one of them per team in the code, but it doesn´t stop you from doing so, even if it´s a rule only competent to Trademarked, so it´s a general malfunctioning of complex bans.

Even if most of y´all are being respectful of this rules (for which I´m greatly grateful), I saw some people been taking advantage of this flaws on the Pokemon Showdown coding and using thinks like Sunny Day + Chlorophyll or Recover and Slack Off trademarks on the same team. I don´t know if they do that as a reflex action or entirely on purpose, but please, don´t, I wouldn´t like to have to manually look out the matches to see if someone is making a fault because it would be uncomfortable and not fun for me to do and the players involved in the match.

I´m gonna be actively searching how to fix this, but if there´s something y´all can do to help me, anything, I would greatly appreciate it.

Well, I needed to make this public already, I´m gonna take responsabilities as soon as possible, see ya around!
 
Pokebilities AAA Hub
What is Pokebilities AAA?
Pokebilities AAA, often shortened to PokeAAA, is the mashup of Pokebilities and Almost Any Ability. In this format, all of a Pokemon's obtainable abilities are active simultaneously, plus one extra ability given via AAA.

Council:
:exeggutor-alola: Eggs
:dragonite: longhiep341
:arbok: Clastia


Ruleset and Banlist:
Species Clause: A player cannot have two Pokemon with the same National Pokédex number on a team.
OHKO Clause: A Pokemon may not have the moves Fissure, Guillotine, Horn Drill, or Sheer Cold in its moveset.
Evasion Clause: A Pokemon may not have either Double Team or Minimize in its moveset.
Sleep Moves Clause: Bans all moves that induce sleep.
Endless Battle Clause: Players cannot intentionally prevent an opponent from being able to end the game without forfeiting.
Single Ability Clause: Two Pokemon on the same team may not share an ability. This does not apply to abilities granted by Pokebilities.
Regenerator Clause: No more than one Pokemon per team may have the ability Regenerator.
The following abilities are banned and cannot be used. Native users of these abilities are banned.
:dugtrio: Arena Trap
:magnezone: Magnet Pull
:octillery: Moody
:gothitelle: Shadow Tag

The following abilities are restricted and cannot be used as the extra AAA ability in the teambuilder. Native users of these abilities are not banned unless otherwise stated.
:komala: Comatose
:serperior: Contrary
:furfrou: Fur Coat
:gholdengo: Good as Gold
:darmanitan-galar: Gorilla Tactics
:mawile-mega: Huge Power
:snom: Ice Scales
:zoroark-hisui: Illusion
:ditto: Imposter
:pyukumuku: Innards Out
:xatu: Magic Bounce
:weezing-galar: Neutralizing Gas
:koraidon: Orichalcum Pulse
:kangaskhan-mega: Parental Bond
:gliscor: Poison Heal
:medicham-mega: Pure Power
:bibarel: Simple
:blaziken: Speed Boost
:thievul: Stakeout
:sceptile: Unburden
:araquanid: Water Bubble
:shedinja: Wonder Guard

The following combinations of abilities cannot be used on the same Pokemon. The abilities are still useable individually and while on the same team.
Drizzle and Swift Swim
Primordial Sea and Swift Swim
Drought and Chlorophyll
Drought and Protosynthesis
Desolate Land and Chlorophyll
Electric Surge and Surge Surfer
Electric Surge and Quark Drive
Hadron Engine and Surge Surfer
Hadron Engine and Quark Drive
:annihilape: Annihilape
:arceus: Arceus
:basculin: Basculin
:basculegion: Basculegion
:baxcalibur: Baxcalibur
:calyrex-ice: Calyrex-Ice
:calyrex-shadow: Calyrex-Shadow
:chi-yu: Chi-Yu
:chien-pao: Chien-Pao
:clefable: Clefable
:conkeldurr: Conkeldurr
:dialga: Dialga
:dialga-origin: Dialga-Origin
:dragapult: Dragapult
:dragonite: Dragonite
:enamorus: Enamorus
:espathra: Espathra
:eternatus: Eternatus
:flutter mane: Flutter Mane
:gholdengo: Gholdengo
:giratina: Giratina
:giratina-origin: Giratina-Origin
:gouging fire: Gouging Fire
:great tusk: Great Tusk
:groudon: Groudon
:hariyama: Hariyama
:hoopa-unbound: Hoopa-Unbound
:iron bundle: Iron Bundle
:iron hands: Iron Hands
:iron valiant: Iron Valiant
:kingambit: Kingambit
:koraidon: Koraidon
:kyogre: Kyogre
:landorus: Landorus-Incarnate
:magearna: Magearna
:mewtwo: Mewtwo
:miraidon: Miraidon
:noivern: Noivern
:ogerpon-hearthflame: Ogerpon-Hearthflame
:palkia: Palkia
:palkia-origin: Palkia-Origin
:rayquaza: Rayquaza
:raging bolt: Raging Bolt
:sneasler: Sneasler
:spectrier: Spectrier
:ursaluna: Ursaluna
:urshifu: Urshifu-Single-Strike
:urshifu: Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
:walking wake: Walking Wake
:zacian: Zacian-Hero
:zacian-crowned: Zacian-Crowned
:Zamazenta: Zamazenta
:zapdos-galar: Zapdos-Galar
:zoroark-hisui: Zoroark-Hisui
:slowking: King's Rock
:smeargle: Baton Pass
:houndstone: Last Respects
:pawmot: Revival Blessing
:orthworm: Shed Tail

Resources:
/tour new [Gen 9] Pokebilities, Elimination,,,[Gen 9] Pokebilities AAA /tour rules !Obtainable Abilities, Ability Clause = 1, Sleep Moves Clause, Terastal Clause, AAA Restricted Abilities, *Comatose, *Contrary, *Fur Coat, *Good as Gold, *Gorilla Tactics, *Huge Power, *Ice Scales, *Illusion, *Imposter, *Innards Out, *Magic Bounce, -Magnet Pull, *Neutralizing Gas, *Orichalcum Pulse, *Parental Bond, *Poison Heal, *Pure Power, *Simple, *Speed Boost, *Stakeout, *Unburden, *Water Bubble, *Wonder Guard, -Annihilape, -Basculin, -Basculegion, -Baxcalibur, -Chien-Pao, -Clefable, -Conkeldurr, -Dragapult, -Dragonite, - Enamorus-Base, -Espathra, -Gholdengo, -Great Tusk, -Hariyama, -Hoopa-Unbound, -Iron Hands, -Iron Valiant, -Kingambit, -Magearna, -Noivern, -Sneasler, -Spectrier, -Ursaluna, -Urshifu, -Urshifu-Rapid-Strike, -Walking Wake, -Zapdos-Galar, -Zoroark-Hisui, -Comatose, -Revival Blessing, -Regenerator + Wimp Out, -Regenerator > 1, -Drizzle + Swift Swim, -Primordial Sea + Swift Swim, -Drought + Chlorophyll, -Desolate Land + Chlorophyll, -Electric Surge + Surge Surfer, -Hadron Engine + Surge Surfer, -Hadron Engine + Quark Drive, -Electric Surge + Quark Drive, -Drought + Protosynthesis, +Regieleki, +Palafin /tour autostart 10 /tour autodq 7

/challenge gen9pokebilities @@@ !Obtainable Abilities, Ability Clause = 1, Sleep Moves Clause, Terastal Clause, AAA Restricted Abilities, *Comatose, *Contrary, *Fur Coat, *Good as Gold, *Gorilla Tactics, *Huge Power, *Ice Scales, *Illusion, *Imposter, *Innards Out, *Magic Bounce, -Magnet Pull, *Neutralizing Gas, *Orichalcum Pulse, *Parental Bond, *Poison Heal, *Pure Power, *Simple, *Speed Boost, *Stakeout, *Unburden, *Water Bubble, *Wonder Guard, -Annihilape, -Basculin, -Basculegion, -Baxcalibur, -Chien-Pao, -Clefable, -Conkeldurr, -Dragapult, -Dragonite, - Enamorus-Base, -Espathra, -Gholdengo, -Hariyama, -Hoopa-Unbound, -Iron Hands, -Iron Valiant, -Kingambit, -Magearna, -Meowscarada, -Noivern, -Sneasler, -Spectrier, -Ursaluna, -Urshifu, -Urshifu-Rapid-Strike, -Walking Wake, -Zapdos-Galar, -Zoroark-Hisui, -Comatose, -Revival Blessing, -Regenerator + Wimp Out, -Regenerator > 1, -Drizzle + Swift Swim, -Primordial Sea + Swift Swim, -Drought + Chlorophyll, -Desolate Land + Chlorophyll, -Electric Surge + Surge Surfer, -Hadron Engine + Surge Surfer, -Hadron Engine + Quark Drive, -Electric Surge + Quark Drive, -Drought + Protosynthesis, +Regieleki, +Palafin
Q. How do the abilities get added to the Pokemon?
A. In the teambuilder, select the AAA ability in the ability slot. Your Pokemon will have its regular abilities added in battle.

Q. Why so many complex bans?
A. Due to the nature of the format, it is healthier to restrict broken combinations of abilities (mostly combinations that boost the user's speed) instead of banning one or both of the base abilities, which are not broken by themselves.

Q. Why is Regenerator Clause in effect?
A. Without it, Regenerator cores consisting of multiple native users and an AAA user dominate the metagame and are able to (effectively) infinitely stall other teams that cannot break through their cores.

Q. How does Palafin work?
A. TLDR use Ability Shield. Base Palafin will benefit from its AAA ability prior to the Zero-to-Hero transformation. If Palafin is holding an Ability Shield, Palafin will continue to benefit from its AAA ability after the transformation. Without ability shield, Palafin's only active ability is Zero-to-Hero.
Coming soon!
Coming soon!
Is Excadrill just omitted or is it supposed to be allowed?
 
:comfey: Triage has been banned from Godly Gift Shared Power!:comfey:

Reasoning: Triage gives a +3 boost in priority to all healing moves, including draining moves like Draining Kiss. There are almost no viable attacks that have +3 priority or higher. Triage is restricted in Shared Power; it can't be passed to non-native users, meaning the only pokemon that can have Triage is Comfey. However, Comfey is set up to be a perfect Triage abuser, as its STAB Draining Kiss can be boosted by almost every means possible. A +3 priority healing move boosted by Adaptability, Beads of Ruin, Tough Claws, Technician, Supreme Overlord, Tera Fairy, and Life Orb coming off of an 82 special attack mon isn't enough, as that special attack stat can be boosted up to 135 by Chi-Yu or 170 by Kyurem-W. It also has a surprising amount of set variability, and it also has a respectable 110 special defense stat, allowing it to run Calm Mind + Synthesis and Tera Dark to beat Psychic Terrain teams, fire type Tera Blast to beat Scizor, or like...Sheer Force Punk Rock Alluring Voice to beat Fluffy stall but it could probably just run Calm Mind Draining Kiss and OHKO everything anyway... Point is, Triage Comfey is broken as hell even with Triage restricted, council has voted to quickban

L dreepy
 
Hey guys gals and :noctowl:s! I've always :bayleef:ed in GGSP as a tier, and I've always felt like it deserved a :chansey: to be in the spotlight. :natu: brag or anything, but I've finally been given a :goldeen: opportunity to revive the tier as I am now tier leader thanks to :zoroark-hisui: stepping down. I think it could have a shot at being a TPP tier this year, but that might be too :farfetch. There's no :shaymin: trying, however, so :wynaut:? In addition to Triage being banned, I've updated the hub: [https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/om-mashup-megathread.3711916/post-9422894] to be up to date with the current code (afaik, I triple-checked but still might've missed something so please lmk) and from this moment onward will be focusing on getting a VR and samples out, and if anyone wants to help I'm all :furret: :)

Well, aren't I :cleffa:
why did i do this

Hey guys gals and noctowls! I’ve always believed in GGSP as a tier, and I’ve always felt like it deserved a chance in the spotlight. Not to brag or anything, but I’ve finally been given a golden opportunity to revive the tier as I am now tier leader thanks to HiZo stepping down. I think it could have a shot at being a TPP tier this year, but that might be too farfetched. There’s no shame in trying, however, so why not? In addition to Triage being banned I've updated the hub: [https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/om-mashup-megathread.3711916/post-9422894] to be up to date with the current code (afaik, I triple-checked but still might've missed something so please lmk) and from this moment onward will be focusing on getting a VR and samples out, and if anyone wants to help I'm all for it! :)
Well, aren’t I clever
 
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Hey guys gals and :noctowl:s! I've always :bayleef:ed in GGSP as a tier, and I've always felt like it deserved a :chansey: to be in the spotlight. :natu: brag or anything, but I've finally been given a :goldeen: opportunity to revive the tier as I am now tier leader thanks to :zoroark-hisui: stepping down. I think it could have a shot at being a TPP tier this year, but that might be too :farfetch. There's no :shaymin: trying, however, so :wynaut:? In addition to Triage being banned, I've updated the hub: [https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/om-mashup-megathread.3711916/post-9422894] to be up to date with the current code (afaik, I triple-checked but still might've missed something so please lmk) and from this moment onward will be focusing on getting a VR and samples out, and if anyone wants to help I'm all :furret: :)

Well, aren't I :cleffa:
why did i do this

I didn´t understand a sh-
 
I really didn´t forget about this one

:Kingdra: Kingdra is now banned from Tradeabilities, :Jirachi: Wish is now on the watchlist.

  • It goes to no one surprise how busted Kingdra was, it got no answers defensively because he´s always doing critical hits, ignoring Screens and even the sturdiest walls fall in a couple of hits: Blissey get potentially 2HKO by Hydro Pump in Rain, and if you don´t want to risk missing, Tera Water Weather Ball/Surf still does the job, Clodsire get´s normally 3HKO by Draco Meteor, which is a 2HKO with some chip, forcing him to Tera, and the list goes on. This makes for a fact that Kingdra is always a good Pokemón to Tera, no mater the MU you´re into, and is a Pokemon that even without Rain is absurdily powerful at breaking, considering that also Shell Armor/Battle Armor mons still get obliterated by this mon and are not good in general and doesn´t rely on just one move and has freedom to change between them, even with the Damp Rock ban, Kingdra deemed himself to powerful, so it´s banned. Now just use Seadra if you´re a real one
  • Wish is a recovery move that as Trademark has no drawback, shutting down almost all the damage did to the user mon in the turn before, or passing it to teammates without need to burn a turn to use it. So get´s on the watch

Ok, that´s all for that Folks, also :Baxcalibur: leaves the watchlist as it was deemed maneageable by the metagame. Possible candidate for the Watchlist are :Urshifu: Single-Strike. Code is gonna be updated as soon as possible, see ya!
 
Two posts in a row? This shouldn´t be happening

:Regieleki: is now banned from Tradeabilities!

Not much to say about this, the people didn´t notice it was unbanned, I thought it was washed but once rediscovered, it just becomed Raging Bolt 2: extremely powerful electric type that can break almost anything with ease. This also adding the fact that most Pokemon at +1 don´t outspeed it and can run mixed sets just to screw the special walls with the only exception of Clodsire. It was probably ok in the +2 Speed Era, but now, it´s just dumb I didn´t recognize it earlier.

Also :Urshifu: Single-Strike enters formerly on the watchlist. Code is gonna be updated as soon as possible, see ya around.
 
:Porygon2: Godly Goobers Hub :Magneton:

What is Godly Goobers and how is it different from LC Godly Gift?
Godly Goobers is a mashup of Godly Gift in the NFE tier, played at level 5. Instead of having Uber pokemon as your gods, this format uses the NFE tier — first and second stages alike — including non-banned NFE's in ZU and PU (eg: Piloswine, Gligar). This differs from LC Godly Gift, which strictly uses the first stage pokemon banned from LC.

Rules and Pokemon:
Species Clause: A player cannot have two Pokemon with the same National Pokédex number on a team.
OHKO Clause: A Pokemon may not have the moves Fissure, Guillotine, Horn Drill, or Sheer Cold in its moveset.
Evasion Clause: A Pokemon may not have either Double Team or Minimize in its moveset.
Sleep Clause: If a player has already put a Pokemon on his/her opponent's side to sleep and it is still sleeping, another one can't be put to sleep.
Endless Battle Clause: Players cannot intentionally prevent an opponent from being able to end the game without forfeiting.
Level Clause: Pokemon will have their level adjusted to be Lvl. 5.
Godly Gift's Restriction: You may have only one NFE-tiered Pokemon as your 'god'.
There are over 100(!!!) pokemon listed here, but most are probably not worth using as gods:
:Aipom:, :Arctibax:, :Bayleef:, :Braixen:, :Brionne:, :Carkol:, :Charjabug:, :Charmeleon:, :Clefairy:, :Combusken:, :Corvisquire:, :Cosmoem:, :Crocalor:, :Croconaw:, :Cutiefly:, :Dartrix:, :Dewott:, :Diglett:, :Dipplin:,:Dolliv:, :Dragonair:, :Drakloak:, :Drizzile:, :Dunsparce:, :Duosion:, :Dusclops:, :Eelektrik:, :Flaaffy:, :Fletchinder:, :Flittle:, :Floette:, :Floragato:, :Fraxure:, :Frogadier:, :Gabite:, :Gastly:, :Girafarig:, :Gligar:, :Gloom:, :Gothorita:, :Graveler:, :Graveler-Alola:, :Grotle:, :Grovyle:, :Gurdurr:, :Hakamo-o:, :Hattrem:, :Ivysaur:, :Jigglypuff:, :Kirlia:, :Krokorok:, :Kubfu:, :Lampent:, :Lombre:, :Luxio:, :Marill:, :Marshtomp:, :Meditite:, :Meowth:, :Metang:, :Misdreavus:, :Monferno:, :Morgrem:, :munchlax:, :Murkrow:, :Naclstack:, :Nuzleaf:, :Pawmo:, :Pignite:, :Pikachu:, :Piloswine:, :Poliwhirl:, :Porygon:, :Prinplup:, :Pupitar:, :Quaxwell:, :Quilava:, :Quilladin:, :Qwilfish-Hisui:, :Raboot:, :Rufflet:, :Scraggy:, :Seadra:, :Servine:, :Shelgon:, :Skiploom:, :Skrelp:, :Sliggoo:, :Sliggoo-Hisui:, :Snivy:, :Spewpa:, :Stantler:, :Staravia:, :Steenee:, :Swadloon:, :Tinkatuff:, :Thwackey:, :Torracat:, :Trumbeak:, :Vibrava:, :Vigoroth:, :voltorb-hisui:, :Vulpix:, :Vulpix-Alola:, :Wartortle:, :Weepinbell:, :Yanma:, :Zweilous:
Presently Legal Watchlist
:Heat Rock: Weather Rocks
:Damp Rock: Swift Swim

The following pokemon are typically banned in NFE, but may remain restricted here. We'll iterate which mons are banned or restricted based on test periods with a handful at a time:

[Current] Unbanned Restricted Set 3:
:Porygon2: Porygon 2
:Magneton: Magneton
Banned Pokemon:
Gods:

:Basculin-White-Striped: Basculin-White-Striped
:Bisharp: Bisharp
:Chansey: Chansey
:Duraludon: Duraludon
:Electabuzz: Electabuzz
:Haunter: Haunter
:Magmar: Magmar
:Scyther: Scyther
:Sneasel: Sneasel
:Sneasel-Hisui: Sneasel-Hisui
:Ursaring: Ursaring

Non-Gods:
:Tandemaus: Tandemaus

Items:
:Pikachu: Light Ball

Abilities:
:Azurill: Huge Power

Moves:
:Dewpider: Sticky Web

How can you play?
/tour new [Gen 9] NFE,Elimination,,,[Gen 9] Godly Goobers
/tour rules Godly Gift Mod, !Sleep Moves Clause, Sleep Clause Mod, !Terastal Clause, -Basculin-White-Striped, -Chansey, -Duraludon, -Electabuzz, -Haunter, -Magmar, -Scyther, -Sneasel, -Sneasel-Hisui, -Bisharp, -Ursaring, -Tandemaus, -Light Ball, -Huge Power, -Sticky Web, *Aipom, *Arctibax, *Bayleef, *Braixen, *Brionne, *Carkol, *Charjabug, *Charmeleon, *Clefairy, *Combusken, *Corvisquire, *Cosmoem, *Crocalor, *Croconaw, *Cutiefly, *Dartrix, *Dewott, *Diglett-Base, *Dolliv, *Dragonair, *Drakloak, *Drizzile, *Dunsparce, *Duosion, *Dusclops, *Eelektrik, *Flaaffy, *Fletchinder, *Flittle, *Floette, *Floragato, *Fraxure, *Frogadier, *Gabite, *Gastly, *Girafarig, *Gligar, *Gloom, *Gothorita, *Graveler, *Graveler-Alola, *Grotle, *Grovyle, *Hakamo-o, *Hattrem, *Ivysaur, *Jigglypuff, *Kirlia, *Krokorok, *Kubfu, *Lampent, *Lombre, *Luxio, *Marill, *Marshtomp, *Meditite, *Meowth-Base, *Metang, *Misdreavus, *Monferno, *Morgrem, *Munchlax, *Murkrow, *Naclstack, *Nuzleaf, *Pawmo, *Pignite, *Pikachu, *Piloswine, *Poliwhirl, *Porygon, *Prinplup, *Pupitar, *Quaxwell, *Quilava, *Quilladin, *Raboot, *Rufflet, *Scraggy, *Seadra, *Servine, *Shelgon, *Skiploom, *Skrelp, *Sliggoo, *Sliggoo-Hisui, *Snivy, *Spewpa, *Stantler, *Staravia, *Steenee, *Swadloon, *Tinkatuff, *Thwackey, *Torracat, *Trumbeak, *Vibrava, *Vigoroth, *Voltorb-Hisui, *Vulpix-Alola, *Wartortle, *Weepinbell, *Yanma, *Zweilous, *Dipplin, *Gurdurr, *Magneton, *Porygon2, *Primeape, *Qwilfish-Hisui, *Rhydon, *Vulpix, Limit One Restricted, adjustlevel=5
/tour autostart 7
/tour autodq 4
/wall This is **Godly Gift** but the gods are **NFE** and their followers are **LC!** Hub: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/om-mashup-megathread.3711916/post-10193692
/challenge [Gen 9] NFE @@@Godly Gift Mod, !Sleep Moves Clause, Sleep Clause Mod, !Terastal Clause, -Basculin-White-Striped, -Chansey, -Duraludon, -Electabuzz, -Haunter, -Magmar, -Scyther, -Sneasel, -Sneasel-Hisui, -Bisharp, -Ursaring, -Tandemaus, -Light Ball, -Huge Power, -Sticky Web, *Aipom, *Arctibax, *Bayleef, *Braixen, *Brionne, *Carkol, *Charjabug, *Charmeleon, *Clefairy, *Combusken, *Corvisquire, *Cosmoem, *Crocalor, *Croconaw, *Cutiefly, *Dartrix, *Dewott, *Diglett-Base, *Dolliv, *Dragonair, *Drakloak, *Drizzile, *Dunsparce, *Duosion, *Dusclops, *Eelektrik, *Flaaffy, *Fletchinder, *Flittle, *Floette, *Floragato, *Fraxure, *Frogadier, *Gabite, *Gastly, *Girafarig, *Gligar, *Gloom, *Gothorita, *Graveler, *Graveler-Alola, *Grotle, *Grovyle, *Hakamo-o, *Hattrem, *Ivysaur, *Jigglypuff, *Kirlia, *Krokorok, *Kubfu, *Lampent, *Lombre, *Luxio, *Marill, *Marshtomp, *Meditite, *Meowth-Base, *Metang, *Misdreavus, *Monferno, *Morgrem, *Munchlax, *Murkrow, *Naclstack, *Nuzleaf, *Pawmo, *Pignite, *Pikachu, *Piloswine, *Poliwhirl, *Porygon, *Prinplup, *Pupitar, *Quaxwell, *Quilava, *Quilladin, *Raboot, *Rufflet, *Scraggy, *Seadra, *Servine, *Shelgon, *Skiploom, *Skrelp, *Sliggoo, *Sliggoo-Hisui, *Snivy, *Spewpa, *Stantler, *Staravia, *Steenee, *Swadloon, *Tinkatuff, *Thwackey, *Torracat, *Trumbeak, *Vibrava, *Vigoroth, *Voltorb-Hisui, *Vulpix-Alola, *Wartortle, *Weepinbell, *Yanma, *Zweilous, *Dipplin, *Gurdurr, *Magneton, *Porygon2, *Primeape, *Qwilfish-Hisui, *Rhydon, *Vulpix, Limit One Restricted, adjustlevel=5

Resources:

Hippopotas + Dipplin Semistall
:Mienfoo: - :Vullaby: - :Hippopotas: - :Elekid: - :Mareanie: - :Dipplin:

Piloswine Offense
:Voltorb-Hisui: - :Stunky: - :Mienfoo: - :Vullaby: - :Growlithe-Hisui: - :Piloswine:

"Dipplin is fat" Offense
:Growlithe-Hisui: - :Vullaby: - :Mienfoo: - :Voltorb-Hisui: - :Fuecoco: - :Dipplin:

"Pink blobs are so last gen" Dusclops Balance
:Magnemite: - :Vullaby: - :Munchlax: - :Voltorb-Hisui: - :Mienfoo: - :Dusclops:

Hisuian Qwilfish Rain
:Shroodle: - :Poliwag: - :Mienfoo: - :Riolu: - :Qwilfish-Hisui: - :Skrelp:
Will arrive when NFE uber testing is finished...

Have Fun!
 
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