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:sv/Gogoat:
Let's-a-go(goat)
[SET]
name: Bulk Up
move 1: Bulk Up
move 2: Horn Leech
move 3: Rock Slide / Earthquake
move 4: Substitute
item: Leftovers
ability: Sap Sipper
nature: Careful
evs: 252 HP / 220 SpD / 36 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
By virtue of Gogoat's solid natural bulk and defensive typing, Gogoat makes for a sturdy setup sweeper. Horn Leech is preferred over Leaf Blade's higher power for its recovery, and it threatens out popular walls like Politoed and Gigalith. Rock Slide threatens out Grass-resistant Pokemon like Dustox, Magmar, and Jumpluff, threats that would otherwise safely switch into Horn Leech. Earthquake targets anticipated switch-ins like Swalot, Pignite, and Klang, Pokemon otherwise unfazed by Horn Leech and Rock Slide. Substitute shields Gogoat from status users like Electabuzz and Gourgeist-S; Gogoat's high-HP Substitutes also prevents Dusclops and, most of the time, Bronzor from breaking them with their standard attacking moves. Sap Sipper makes Gogoat a consistent check against Grass-types like Servine and non-Gunk Shot Simisage. 36 Speed EVs enable Gogoat to outspeed Adamant Lairon.

Gogoat fits well on bulky and balance builds as both a special wall and wincon simultaneously, being a consistent switch-in against popular Grass- and Water-types like Servine and Politoed. Poison-types like Swalot and Ivysaur and Steel-types like Bronzor and Klang serve as Gogoat's biggest obstacles for successful Bulk Up sweeps; Psychic-types like Duosion and Swoobat can threaten out the aforementioned Poison-types, while Ground-types like Krokorok and Marshtomp can provide provide Stealth Rock support to rack up chip damage and threaten out Gogoat's checks. Krokorok particularly pairs well, providing utility with Knock Off and Pursuit trapping Bronzor. In return, Gogoat can threaten out Water-types like Politoed and Simipour that would threaten the Ground-types. Politoed and Seaking also serve as good partners to threaten out Fire-types like Magmar and Pignite. Cleric support from Wigglytuff can enhance Gogoat's longevity and rid of status moves it may have sustained earlier in the match.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Dropping Substitute and Bulk Up for Roar and Milk Drink, respectively, makes Gogoat a sturdy phazer, though this makes it more passive and faces competition from Meganium. Offensive Bulk Up sets with an Occa Berry lure in Fire-types like Pignite and Magmar, though this sacrifices a lot of bulk and faces competition with offensive Grass-types like Jumpluff and Sawsbuck. An EV spread of 252 HP / 40 Def / 184 SpD / 32 Spe prevents Gourgeist-L from breaking its Substitutes, enabling it to use it as setup fodder.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Poison-types**: Poison-types like Swalot, Ivysaur, and Trubbish take pittance from most of Gogoat's unboosted attacks and can set up on it with their utility moves or threaten it outright with their STAB moves.

**Steel-types**: Steel-types like Bronzor and Klang take little from Gogoat's unboosted attacks and can set up on it with their utility moves, though Bronzor and defensive Klang variants may have trouble breaking Gogoat's Substitutes.

**Fire-types**: Fire-types like Magmar, Pignite, and the uncommon Lampent resist Gogoat's STAB moves and can retaliate back with their own STAB moves. Pignite itself does excellently against Rock Slide thanks to its Fighting typing and Eviolite, and it can strike back with either Flare Blitz or Toxic.

**Residual Damage**: Despite Gogoat's solid bulk, it is very vulnerable to residual damage; burns cripple its sweeping potential, and Toxic wears it down too quickly for it to consistently sweep. Entry hazards also jeopardize its sweeping potential and make it more vulnerable against revenge killers like Vanilluxe and Jumpluff.

**Revenge Killers**: Without Bulk Up boosts, Gogoat's low Speed greatly hinders it against faster threats like Vanilluxe, Sawsbuck, and Furfrou, Pokemon that can threaten it with either super effective coverage or raw damage output.

[SET CREDITS]
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great-a-job (goat)
[SET]
name: Bulk Up
move 1: Bulk Up
move 2: Horn Leech
move 3: Rock Slide
move 4: Substitute
item: Leftovers
ability: Sap Sipper
nature: Careful
evs: 252 HP / 220 SpD / 36 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
By virtue of Gogoat's solid natural bulk and defensive typing, Gogoat makes for a sturdy setup sweeper. Horn Leech is preferred over Leaf Blade's higher power for its recovery, and threatens out popular walls like Politoed and Gigalith. Rock Slide threatens out Grass-resistant Pokemon like Dustox, Magmar, and Jumpluff, threats that would otherwise safely switch into Horn Leech. Substitute shields Gogoat from status (from who? i think you should mention faster burn/poison users here or below in C&C); Gogoat's 101 HP Substitutes also prevents Dusclops and Bronzor from breaking them with their standard attacking moves. Sap Sipper makes Gogoat a consistent check against Grass-types like Servine and non-Gunk Shot Simisage. 36 Speed EVs enable Gogoat to outspeed Adamant Lairon.

Gogoat fits well on bulky and balance builds as both a special wall and wincon simultaneously, being a consistent switch in against popular Grass-types like Servine and non-Gunk Shot Simisage variants (mention other mons it can wall like waters, ebuzz, etc since this is repetitive). Poison-types like Swalot and Ivysaur and Steel-types like Bronzor and Klang serve as Gogoat's biggest obstacles for successful Bulk Up sweeps; Ground-types like Krokorok and Marshtomp (marshtomp loses 1v1 to zor and ivy, krok also struggles into ivy. be more specific or use different examples) can both provide Stealth Rock support to rack up chip damage and threaten out Gogoat's checks. In return, Gogoat can threaten out Water-types like Politoed and Simipour for them. The aformentioned Water-types also serve as good partners to threaten out Fire-types like Magmar and Pignite, checks that would otherwise threaten Gogoat. Cleric support from Wigglytuff can enhance Gogoat's longevity and rid of status moves it may have sustained earlier in the match.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Dropping Substitute and Bulk Up for Roar and Milk Drink, respectively, makes Gogoat a sturdy phazer, though this makes it more passive and faces competition from Meganium. Offensive Bulk Up sets with an Occa Berry can replace Substitute for Earthquake to lure in Fire-types like Pignite and Magmar, though this sacrifices a lot of bulk and faces competition with offensive Grass-types like Jumpluff and Sawsbuck. thoughts on mentioning eq > slide for the main set with the pros and cons that come with it? maybe mentioning milk drink as a possibility over sub? these are just ideas and are optional to include

Checks and Counters
===================

**Poison-types**: Poison-types like Swalot, Ivysaur, and Trubbish take pittance from most of Gogoat's unboosted attacks and can set up on it with their utility moves or threaten it outright with their STAB moves.

**Steel-types**: Steel-types like Bronzor and Klang take little from Gogoat's unboosted attacks and can set up on it with their utility moves, though Bronzor and defensive Klang variants may have trouble breaking Gogoat's Substitutes.

**Fire-types**: Fire-types like Magmar, Pignite, and the uncommon Lampent resist Gogoat's STAB moves and can retaliate back with their own STAB moves, though none of them enjoy switching into Rock Slide and may have trouble dealing with it against Substitute variants (pignite doesn't really care about rock slide, it does like 16-19 percent).

**Residual Damage**: Despite Gogoat's solid bulk, it is very vulnerable to residual damage: Burns cripple its sweeping potential and Toxic wears it down too quickly for it to consistently sweep. Entry hazards also jeopardize its sweeping potential and makes it more vulnerable against revenge killers like Vanilluxe and Jumpluff.

**Revenge Killers**: Without Bulk Up boosts, Gogoat's low Speed greatly hinders it against faster threats like Jumpluff, Vanilluxe, (swap these two since you just mention them above, maybe add Lairon and Sawsbuck since the sentence starts off with no bulk up boost and these mons take adavantage of its poor physical defense) and Furfrou, Pokemon that can either dispatch it with super effective coverage or raw damage output.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/5dots.543866/
Quality checked by:
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:sv/Gogoat:
Let's-a-go(goat)
[SET]
name: Bulk Up
move 1: Bulk Up
move 2: Horn Leech
move 3: Rock Slide / Earthquake
move 4: Substitute
item: Leftovers
ability: Sap Sipper
nature: Careful
evs: 252 HP / 220 SpD / 36 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
By virtue of Gogoat's solid natural bulk and defensive typing, Gogoat makes for a sturdy setup sweeper. Horn Leech is preferred over Leaf Blade's higher power for its recovery, and threatens out popular walls like Politoed and Gigalith. Rock Slide threatens out Grass-resistant Pokemon like Dustox, Magmar, and Jumpluff, threats that would otherwise safely switch into Horn Leech. Substitute shields Gogoat from faster status users like Electabuzz and Gourgeist-Small; (if they're faster they can just status it before sub goes up) Gogoat's 101 high (hits way more than 404 HP) HP Substitutes also prevents Dusclops and Bronzor from breaking them with their standard attacking moves. (Bronzor can still break sub with high rolls. Should rework the sentence to say smth like "most of the time" for Bronzor) Sap Sipper makes Gogoat a consistent check against Grass-types like Servine and non-Gunk Shot Simisage. 36 Speed EVs enable Gogoat to outspeed Adamant Lairon. Earthquake targets anticipated switch-ins like Swalot, Pignite, and Klang, Pokemon otherwise unfazed by Horn Leech and Rock Slide.

Gogoat fits well on bulky and balance builds as both a special wall and wincon simultaneously, being a consistent switch in against popular Grass-, Water-types like Servine and Politoed. Poison-types like Swalot and Ivysaur and Steel-types like Bronzor and Klang serve as Gogoat's biggest obstacles for successful Bulk Up sweeps; Psychic-types like Duosion and Swoobat can threaten out the aformentioned Poison-types, while Ground-types like Krokorok and Marshtomp can provide provide Stealth Rock support to rack up chip damage and threaten out Gogoat's checks. Krokorok particularly pairs well, providing utility with Knock Off and Pursuit trapping Bronzor. In return, Gogoat can threaten out Water-types like Politoed and Simipour that would threaten the Ground-types. Politoed and Seaking also serve as good partners to threaten out Fire-types like Magmar and Pignite. Cleric support from Wigglytuff can enhance Gogoat's longevity and rid of status moves it may have sustained earlier in the match.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Dropping Substitute and Bulk Up for Roar and Milk Drink, respectively, makes Gogoat a sturdy phazer, though this makes it more passive and faces competition from Meganium. Offensive Bulk Up sets with an Occa Berry lure in Fire-types like Pignite and Magmar, though this sacrifices a lot of bulk and faces competition with offensive Grass-types like Jumpluff and Sawsbuck.

(40 EVs taken out of SpD and put into Def allows Gogoat's Substitute to not be broken by Gourgeist-Large's Foul Play. This way, Gogoat can use it as setup fodder.) Worth adding imo.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Poison-types**: Poison-types like Swalot, Ivysaur, and Trubbish take pittance from most of Gogoat's unboosted attacks and can set up on it with their utility moves or threaten it outright with their STAB moves.

**Steel-types**: Steel-types like Bronzor and Klang take little from Gogoat's unboosted attacks and can set up on it with their utility moves, though Bronzor and defensive Klang variants may have trouble breaking Gogoat's Substitutes.

**Fire-types**: Fire-types like Magmar, Pignite, and the uncommon Lampent resist Gogoat's STAB moves and can retaliate back with their own STAB moves. Pignite itself does excellently against Rock Slide thanks to its Fighting subtyping and Eviolite, and can strike back with either Flare Blitz or Toxic.

**Residual Damage**: Despite Gogoat's solid bulk, it is very vulnerable to residual damage: Burns cripple its sweeping potential and Toxic wears it down too quickly for it to consistently sweep. Entry hazards also jeopardize its sweeping potential and makes it more vulnerable against revenge killers like Vanilluxe and Jumpluff.

**Revenge Killers**: Without Bulk Up boosts, Gogoat's low Speed greatly hinders it against faster threats like Lairon Vanilluxe, Sawsbuck, and Furfrou, Pokemon that can either threaten it with super effective coverage or raw damage output. (Scarier check + Gogoat creeps Adamant Lairon anyway)

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/5dots.543866/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/sleid.601970/

Grammar checked by:
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[SET]
name: Bulk Up
move 1: Bulk Up
move 2: Horn Leech
move 3: Rock Slide / Earthquake
move 4: Substitute
item: Leftovers
ability: Sap Sipper
nature: Careful
evs: 252 HP / 220 SpD / 36 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
By virtue of Gogoat's solid natural bulk and defensive typing, Gogoat makes for a sturdy setup sweeper. Horn Leech is preferred over Leaf Blade's higher power for its recovery, and it threatens out popular walls like Politoed and Gigalith. Rock Slide threatens out Grass-resistant Pokemon like Dustox, Magmar, and Jumpluff, threats that would otherwise safely switch into Horn Leech. (Moved the EQ sentence here to follow moveslot order.) Earthquake targets anticipated switch-ins like Swalot, Pignite, and Klang, Pokemon otherwise unfazed by Horn Leech and Rock Slide. Substitute shields Gogoat from status users like Electabuzz and Gourgeist-Small; Gogoat's high-HP (AH) Substitutes also prevents Dusclops and, most of the time, Bronzor from breaking them with their standard attacking moves. Sap Sipper makes Gogoat a consistent check against Grass-types like Servine and non-Gunk Shot Simisage. 36 Speed EVs enable Gogoat to outspeed Adamant Lairon.

Gogoat fits well on bulky and balance builds as both a special wall and wincon simultaneously, being a consistent switch-in (AH) against popular Grass- (RC) and Water-types like Servine and Politoed. Poison-types like Swalot and Ivysaur and Steel-types like Bronzor and Klang serve as Gogoat's biggest obstacles for successful Bulk Up sweeps; Psychic-types like Duosion and Swoobat can threaten out the aforementioned Poison-types, while Ground-types like Krokorok and Marshtomp can provide provide Stealth Rock support to rack up chip damage and threaten out Gogoat's checks. Krokorok particularly pairs well, providing utility with Knock Off and Pursuit trapping Bronzor. In return, Gogoat can threaten out Water-types like Politoed and Simipour that would threaten the Ground-types. Politoed and Seaking also serve as good partners to threaten out Fire-types like Magmar and Pignite. Cleric support from Wigglytuff can enhance Gogoat's longevity and rid of status moves it may have sustained earlier in the match.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Dropping Substitute and Bulk Up for Roar and Milk Drink, respectively, makes Gogoat a sturdy phazer, though this makes it more passive and faces competition from Meganium. Offensive Bulk Up sets with an Occa Berry lure in Fire-types like Pignite and Magmar, though this sacrifices a lot of bulk and faces competition with offensive Grass-types like Jumpluff and Sawsbuck. An EV spread of 252 HP / 40 Def / 184 SpD / 32 Spe prevents Gourgeist-Large from breaking its Substitutes, enabling it to use it as setup fodder.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Poison-types**: Poison-types like Swalot, Ivysaur, and Trubbish take pittance from most of Gogoat's unboosted attacks and can set up on it with their utility moves or threaten it outright with their STAB moves.

**Steel-types**: Steel-types like Bronzor and Klang take little from Gogoat's unboosted attacks and can set up on it with their utility moves, though Bronzor and defensive Klang variants may have trouble breaking Gogoat's Substitutes.

**Fire-types**: Fire-types like Magmar, Pignite, and the uncommon Lampent resist Gogoat's STAB moves and can retaliate back with their own STAB moves. Pignite itself does excellently against Rock Slide thanks to its Fighting subtyping and Eviolite, and it can strike back with either Flare Blitz or Toxic.

**Residual Damage**: Despite Gogoat's solid bulk, it is very vulnerable to residual damage; (replace colon w/ semicolon) Burns burns cripple its sweeping potential, (AC) and Toxic wears it down too quickly for it to consistently sweep. Entry hazards also jeopardize its sweeping potential and makes it more vulnerable against revenge killers like Vanilluxe and Jumpluff.

**Revenge Killers**: Without Bulk Up boosts, Gogoat's low Speed greatly hinders it against faster threats like Vanilluxe, Sawsbuck, and Furfrou, Pokemon that can either threaten it with either (parallelism) super effective coverage or raw damage output.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/5dots.543866/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/sleid.601970/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/5gen.296755/
Grammar checked by:

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