Gen 6 [ORAS] Persian [DONE]

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:BW/Persian:
Purrfection
[SET]
name: Revenge Killer
move 1: Fake Out
move 2: Knock Off
move 3: U-turn
move 4: Return
item: Silk Scarf
ability: Technician
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
As the tier's fastest unboosted Pokemon, Persian establishes itself as an elite revenge killer. Technician-boosted Fake Out chips away at fast attackers like Jumpluff, Frogadier, and Simipour, which can put them into KO range of Return. Knock Off cripples defensive switch-ins like Bronzor, Gigalith, and Lairon, while U-turn pivots away from the aforementioned Pokemon.

Persian's excellent Speed and utility movepool enable it to fit on a variety of VoltTurn teams. Volt Switch and U-turn users like Electabuzz, Pikachu, and Frogadier stand out as great examples of fast pivots that can build up momentum against the opposition. Slow pivots like Dustox, Vibrava, and defensive Klang enable Persian to hit the field more safely, with the first two even reducing Persian's susceptibility to entry hazards via Defog. Even with Knock Off and U-turn, Persian severely struggles against Rock- and Steel-types like Gigalith and Klang; checks to them like Hippopotas and Pignite can address these weaknesses. Physical walls like Ivysaur and Hippopotas can be difficult for Persian to break down, even with Knock Off, so wallbreakers like Choice Specs Vanilluxe and Magmar can give Persian an easier time cleaning late-game.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Taunt can surprise walls like Bronzor and Quilladin, preventing them from using their utility moves, though it is difficult to drop one of Persian's coverage moves. Double-Edge can be used over Return for the extra power, achieving benchmarks like OHKOing Vanilluxe and Magmar after Stealth Rock and Spikes and also having more favorable damage rolls against offensive Pokemon like Simipour and Swoobat, though the recoil damage cuts into Persian's already low bulk. Leftovers makes Persian fare better in entry hazard-stacking matchups, though Persian doesn't tank hits well enough for it to be useful. Nasty Plot sets can surprise anticipated switch-ins like Lairon and Hippopotas with Technician-boosted coverage in Hidden Power Fighting and Water Pulse. Shadow Ball helps Persian punch through Gourgeist-L. However, Persian still lacks sufficient power at +2, struggles with setup due to its low bulk, and often cannot fit the coverage it needs.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Rock-types**: Rock-types like Gigalith, Carbink, and Lairon are Persian's worst matchups, taking a pittance from any of its attacks and setting up Stealth Rock or retaliating with their STAB moves. Offensive variants of the last two can even use it as setup fodder.

**Ghost-types**: While not as immediately threatening as the aforementioned Rock-types, Ghost-types like Gourgeist formes and Dusclops can still easily switch into Persian's attacks and cripple it with Will-O-Wisp or whittle it away with utility options like Seismic Toss or and Leech Seed. However, Dusclops doesn't appreciate being hit with Knock Off.

**Steel-types**: While Steel-types like Lairon, Klang, and Bronzor do not appreciate Knock Off, they have the bulk and power to shrug off anything Persian does and can make use of their utility options. Klang and Bronzor also run Rest to negate any damage Persian can inflict on them, forcing it to pivot out.

**Physical Walls**: Defensive behemoths like Swalot, Quilladin, and Hippopotas can use their naturally high bulk to weather Persian's attacks, chip it down with their STAB moves, use their recovery moves to increase their longevity, and take advantage of it with their utility options.

**Choice Scarf Users**: While Persian is the fastest unboosted attacker in the metagame, it falls short of Choice Scarf users that can outpace it. Choice Scarf users like Simipour, Simisage, and Magmar can take it out with some prior damage.

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Killed this
[SET]
name: Revenge Killer
move 1: Fake Out
move 2: Knock Off
move 3: U-turn
move 4: Return (at least mention dedge in oo if you dont slash it here)
item: Silk Scarf
ability: Technician
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
As the tier's fastest unboosted Pokemon in the metagame, Persian establishes itself as an elite revenge killer. Fake Out alongside Technician boosting its power chips away fast attackers like Jumpluff, Frogadier, and Simipour. Knock Off cripples defensive switch-ins like Bronzor, Gigalith, and Lairon, while U-turn pivots away from the aformentioned matchups. Silk Scarf empowers all of Persian's Normal-type attacks.

Persian's excellent Speed and utility enables it to fit in a variety of VoltTurn teams. Volt Switch and other U-turn users like Electabuzz, Frogadier, and Pikachu stand out as great examples of fast pivots that can build up momentum against the opposition. Slow pivots like Dustox, Vibrava, and defensive Klang enable Persian to hit the field more safely. Even with Knock Off and U-turn, Persian severely struggles against Rock- and Steel-types (like gigalith and klang); checks to them like Hippopotas and Pignite can address these weaknesses. Physical walls like Ivysaur and Hippopotas can be difficult for Persian to break down even with Knock Off, so wallbreakers like Choice Specs Vanilluxe and Magmar can give Persian an easier time cleaning late-game.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Taunt can surprise walls like Bronzor and Quilladin, preventing them from using their utility moves, though it is difficult dropping one of its coverage moves. Leftovers makes Persian fare better in hazard-stacking matchups, though Persian better appreciates the power of Silk Scarf and still has poor longevity, thanks to its low bulk and lack of defensive utility. Nasty Plot sets can surprise anticipated switch-ins like Lairon and Hippopotas with its coverage, though it still lacks sufficient power at +2 and lacks comfortable setup opportunities due to its low bulk.

Checks and Counters
===================
***Rock-types***: Rock-types like Gigalith, Carbink, and Lairon serve as Persian's worst matchups, taking pittance from any of its attacks and can set up Stealth Rock or retaliate with their STAB moves. Offensive variants of the latter two can even use it as setup fodder.

***Ghost-types***: While not as immediately as threatening as the aformentioned Rock-types, Ghost-types like Gourgeist formes and Dusclops can still easily switch into Persian's attacks and can cripple it with Will-O-Wisp or whittle it away with utility options like Seismic Toss or Leech Seed. However, Dusclops doesn't appreciate Knock Off.

***Steel-types***: While Steel-types like Lairon, Klang, and Bronzor do not appreciate Knock Off, they have the bulk and power to shrug off anything Persian does and can set up with their utility options. Klang and Bronzor also run Rest to negate any damage Persian can inflict on them, forcing it to pivot out.

***Physical Walls***: Defensive behemoths like Swalot, Quilladin, and Hippopotas can use their naturally high bulk to weather Persian's attacks and can chip it down with their STAB moves, use their recovery moves to continue their longevity, or set up on it with their utility options.

***Choice Scarf Users***: While Persian is the fastest unboosted attacker in the metagame, it falls short of Choice Scarf users that can outpace it. Choice Scarf users like Simipour, Simisage, and Magmar can take it out with some prior damage beforehand.
[SET CREDITS]
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:BW/Persian:
Purrfection
[SET]
name: Revenge Killer
move 1: Fake Out
move 2: Knock Off
move 3: U-turn
move 4: Return
item: Silk Scarf
ability: Technician
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
As the tier's fastest unboosted Pokemon in the metagame, Persian establishes itself as an elite revenge killer. Fake Out alongside Technician boosting its power chips away fast attackers like Jumpluff, Frogadier, and Simipour. (Should mention that this typically puts them into KO range for Return) Knock Off cripples defensive switch-ins like Bronzor, Gigalith, and Lairon, while U-turn pivots away from the aformentioned matchups. Silk Scarf empowers all of Persian's Normal-type attacks.

Persian's excellent Speed and utility enables it to fit in a variety of VoltTurn teams. Volt Switch and other U-turn users like Electabuzz, Frogadier, and Pikachu stand out as great examples of fast pivots that can build up momentum against the opposition. Slow pivots like Dustox, Vibrava, and defensive Klang enable Persian to hit the field more safely. (Important to note the former two can also clear hazards for Persian) Even with Knock Off and U-turn, Persian severely struggles against Rock- and Steel-types like Gigalith and Klang; checks to them like Hippopotas and Pignite can address these weaknesses. Physical walls like Ivysaur and Hippopotas can be difficult for Persian to break down even with Knock Off, so wallbreakers like Choice Specs Vanilluxe and Magmar can give Persian an easier time cleaning late-game.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Taunt can surprise walls like Bronzor and Quilladin, preventing them from using their utility moves, though it is difficult dropping one of its coverage moves. Double-Edge can be used over Return for the extra power, though this cuts into its already low bulk and doesn't achieve any notable benchmarks Return accomplishes. (Power makes a difference on hazard stack mainly, like Return doesn't OHKO Vanilluxe/Magmar after SR+1 Spike but DE does, and DE also has much better rolls vs offensive mons like Simis/CM Swoobat after SR.) Leftovers makes Persian fare better in hazard-stacking matchups, though Persian better appreciates the power of Silk Scarf and still has poor longevity, thanks to its low bulk and lack of defensive utility (Can just say doesn't trade or tank hits well enough for Leftovers to be useful.). Nasty Plot sets can surprise anticipated switch-ins like Lairon, and Hippopotas with its Technician-boosted coverage in Hidden Power Fighting and Water Pulse. Shadow Ball helps Persian punch through Gourgeist-L. However, Persian though it still lacks sufficient power at +2, and lacks comfortable struggles with setup opportunities due to its low bulk, and often cannot fit the coverage it needs.

Checks and Counters
===================
***Rock-types***: Rock-types like Gigalith, Carbink, and Lairon serve as Persian's worst matchups, taking pittance from any of its attacks and can set up Stealth Rock or retaliate with their STAB moves. Offensive variants of the latter two can even use it as setup fodder.

***Ghost-types***: While not as immediately as threatening as the aformentioned Rock-types, Ghost-types like Gourgeist formes and Dusclops can still easily switch into Persian's attacks and can cripple it with Will-O-Wisp or whittle it away with utility options like Seismic Toss or Leech Seed. However, Dusclops doesn't appreciate Knock Off.

***Steel-types***: While Steel-types like Lairon, Klang, and Bronzor do not appreciate Knock Off, they have the bulk and power to shrug off anything Persian does and can set up with their utility options. Klang and Bronzor also run Rest to negate any damage Persian can inflict on them, forcing it to pivot out.

***Physical Walls***: Defensive behemoths like Swalot, Quilladin, and Hippopotas can use their naturally high bulk to weather Persian's attacks and can chip it down with their STAB moves, use their recovery moves to continue their longevity, or set up on it with their utility options.

***Choice Scarf Users***: While Persian is the fastest unboosted attacker in the metagame, it falls short of Choice Scarf users that can outpace it. Choice Scarf users like Simipour, Simisage, and Magmar can take it out with some prior damage beforehand.
[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
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[SET]
name: Revenge Killer
move 1: Fake Out
move 2: Knock Off
move 3: U-turn
move 4: Return
item: Silk Scarf
ability: Technician
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
As the tier's fastest unboosted Pokemon in the metagame, Persian establishes itself as an elite revenge killer. Technician-boosted Fake Out alongside Technician boosting its power chips away at fast attackers like Jumpluff, Frogadier, and Simipour, which can put them into KO range for its of Return. Knock Off cripples defensive switch-ins like Bronzor, Gigalith, and Lairon, while U-turn pivots away from the aforementioned matchups Pokemon. Silk Scarf empowers all of Persian's Normal-type attacks. (Dex info)

Persian's excellent Speed and utility movepool enables it to fit in on a variety of VoltTurn teams. Volt Switch and other U-turn users like Electabuzz, Frogadier, and Pikachu, (AC) and Frogadier stand out as great examples of fast pivots that can build up momentum against the opposition. Slow pivots like Dustox, Vibrava, and defensive Klang enable Persian to hit the field more safely, with the former first two even reducing Persian's susceptibility to entry hazards via Defog. Even with Knock Off and U-turn, Persian severely struggles against Rock- and Steel-types like Gigalith and Klang; checks to them like Hippopotas and Pignite can address these weaknesses. Physical walls like Ivysaur and Hippopotas can be difficult for Persian to break down, (AC) even with Knock Off, so wallbreakers like Choice Specs Vanilluxe and Magmar can give Persian an easier time cleaning late-game.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Taunt can surprise walls like Bronzor and Quilladin, preventing them from using their utility moves, though it is difficult dropping to drop one of its Persian's coverage moves. Double-Edge can be used over Return for the extra power, acheiving achieving benchmarks like OHKOing Vanilluxe and Magmar after Stealth Rock and Spikes, and also having more favorable damage rolls against offensive Pokemon like Simipour and Swoobat, though this the recoil damage cuts into its already low bulk. Leftovers makes Persian fare better in hazard-stacking matchups, though Persian better doesn't tank hits well enough for Leftovers to be useful. Nasty Plot sets can surprise anticipated switch-ins like Lairon and (RC) Hippopotas with its Technician-boosted coverage in Hidden Power Fighting and Water Pulse. Shadow Ball helps Persian punch through Gourgeist-L. However, Persian still lacks sufficient power at +2, struggles with setup due to its low bulk, and often cannot fit the coverage it needs.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Rock-types**: Rock-types like Gigalith, Carbink, and Lairon serve as are Persian's worst matchups, taking pittance from any of its attacks and can setting up Stealth Rock or retaliatinge with their STAB moves. Offensive variants of the lastter two can even use it Persian as setup fodder.

**Ghost-types**: While not as immediately as threatening as the aforementioned Rock-types, Ghost-types like Gourgeist formes and Dusclops can still easily switch into Persian's attacks and can cripple it with Will-O-Wisp or whittle it away with utility options like Seismic Toss or Leech Seed. However, Dusclops doesn't appreciate being hit with Knock Off. (clarity)

**Steel-types**: While Steel-types like Lairon, Klang, and Bronzor do not appreciate Knock Off, they have the bulk and power to shrug off anything Persian does and can set up with make use of their utility options. Klang and Bronzor also run Rest to negate any damage Persian can inflict on them, forcing it to pivot out.

**Physical Walls**: Defensive behemoths like Swalot, Quilladin, and Hippopotas can use their naturally high bulk to weather Persian's attacks, (AC) and can chip it down with their STAB moves, use their recovery moves to continue increase their longevity, or set up on and take advantage of it with their utility options.

**Choice Scarf Users**: While Persian is the fastest unboosted attacker in the metagame, it falls short of Choice Scarf users that can outpace it. Choice Scarf users like Simipour, Simisage, and Magmar can take it Persian out with some prior damage beforehand. (two asterisks instead of three outside of each title)
[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
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[SET]
name: Revenge Killer
move 1: Fake Out
move 2: Knock Off
move 3: U-turn
move 4: Return
item: Silk Scarf
ability: Technician
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
As the tier's fastest unboosted Pokemon in the metagame, Persian establishes itself as an elite revenge killer. Technician-boosted Fake Out alongside Technician boosting its power chips away at fast attackers like Jumpluff, Frogadier, and Simipour, which can put them into KO range for its of Return. Knock Off cripples defensive switch-ins like Bronzor, Gigalith, and Lairon, while U-turn pivots away from the aforementioned matchups Pokemon. Silk Scarf empowers all of Persian's Normal-type attacks. (Dex info)

Persian's excellent Speed and utility enables movepool enable it to fit in on a variety of VoltTurn teams. Volt Switch and other U-turn users like Electabuzz, Frogadier, and Pikachu, (AC) and Frogadier stand out as great examples of fast pivots that can build up momentum against the opposition. Slow pivots like Dustox, Vibrava, and defensive Klang enable Persian to hit the field more safely, with the former first two even reducing Persian's susceptibility to entry hazards via Defog. Even with Knock Off and U-turn, Persian severely struggles against Rock- and Steel-types like Gigalith and Klang; checks to them like Hippopotas and Pignite can address these weaknesses. Physical walls like Ivysaur and Hippopotas can be difficult for Persian to break down, (AC) even with Knock Off, so wallbreakers like Choice Specs Vanilluxe and Magmar can give Persian an easier time cleaning late-game.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Taunt can surprise walls like Bronzor and Quilladin, preventing them from using their utility moves, though it is difficult dropping to drop one of its Persian's coverage moves. Double-Edge can be used over Return for the extra power, acheiving achieving benchmarks like OHKOing Vanilluxe and Magmar after Stealth Rock and Spikes (RC) and also having more favorable damage rolls against offensive Pokemon like Simipour and Swoobat, though this the recoil damage cuts into its Persian's already low bulk. Leftovers makes Persian fare better in entry hazard-stacking matchups, though Persian better doesn't tank hits well enough for Leftovers it to be useful. Nasty Plot sets can surprise anticipated switch-ins like Lairon and (RC) Hippopotas with its Technician-boosted coverage in Hidden Power Fighting and Water Pulse. Shadow Ball helps Persian punch through Gourgeist-L. However, Persian still lacks sufficient power at +2, struggles with setup due to its low bulk, and often cannot fit the coverage it needs.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Rock-types**: Rock-types like Gigalith, Carbink, and Lairon serve as are Persian's worst matchups, taking a pittance from any of its attacks and can setting up Stealth Rock or retaliatinge with their STAB moves. Offensive variants of the lastter two can even use it as setup fodder.

**Ghost-types**: While not as immediately as threatening as the aforementioned Rock-types, Ghost-types like Gourgeist formes and Dusclops can still easily switch into Persian's attacks and can cripple it with Will-O-Wisp or whittle it away with utility options like Seismic Toss or and Leech Seed. However, Dusclops doesn't appreciate being hit with Knock Off. (clarity)

**Steel-types**: While Steel-types like Lairon, Klang, and Bronzor do not appreciate Knock Off, they have the bulk and power to shrug off anything Persian does and can set up with make use of their utility options. Klang and Bronzor also run Rest to negate any damage Persian can inflict on them, forcing it to pivot out.

**Physical Walls**: Defensive behemoths like Swalot, Quilladin, and Hippopotas can use their naturally high bulk to weather Persian's attacks, (AC) and can chip it down with their STAB moves, use their recovery moves to continue increase their longevity, or set up on and take advantage of it with their utility options.

**Choice Scarf Users**: While Persian is the fastest unboosted attacker in the metagame, it falls short of Choice Scarf users that can outpace it. Choice Scarf users like Simipour, Simisage, and Magmar can take it out with some prior damage beforehand (prior redundant with beforehand). (two asterisks instead of three outside of each title)
[SET CREDITS]
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