OU Gravity - Comments Please :]

Airknight

Well I've been using this team for a very long time, and I figured it's time to post it. I love the concept of Gravity, and tried to integrate it into my own feel. So far on Wi-Fi this team has gone about 26-7, pretty respectable in my opinion. So read below and tell me what you guys think.



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Dusknoir (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/78 Def/180 SDef
Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Gravity
- Earthquake
- Will-o-wisp
- Dynamicpunch
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This is a surprisingly amazing lead, as most of the time the opponent's lead will Stealth Rock while I get a Gravity in, which is great since this team does not get bothered by Stealth Rocks at all. Once gravity is up Will-o-Wisp has nearly perfect accuaracy while DynamicPunch has an awesome 82%. EQ hits everything else. Bulky enough to set up Gravity, take a hit, and come back later to do it again.


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Hippowdon (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/170 Def/88 SDef
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Slack Off
- Roar
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Not many people expect Hippowdon in a spot other than lead, but it does a great job as my defensive tank. Set's up Stealth Rocks and Sand Storm, then shuffles the opponent's Pokemon around.

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Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP/150 Def/36 Spd/72 SDef
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Wish
- Body Slam
- Iron Head
- Fire Punch
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Basic Defensive Jirachi which works wonders for me. Body Slam + Iron Head is just flat out annoying. Provides Wish support for itself and the team. Fire Punch was a move I put on the team after realizing that if Heatran goes down, I can't touch Scizor. Since doing it, he has no longer been a problem.


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Heatran (M) @ Lum Berry
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 30 Atk/228 Spd/252 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Explosion
- Earth Power
- Magma Storm
- Taunt
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This, my friends, is Gravity Heatran, and my oh my is it amazing. Most people only expect ScarfTrans nowadays so this thing is great. Lum Berry is so I can switch into Status and then Taunt. Magma Storm, while having great accuarcy in Gravity, also traps the opponent. Once I've taunted a Blissey / Cresselia and trapped it, it can't do anything. Explosion is for that dying breath.


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Mamoswine (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Snow Cloak
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Stone Edge
- Superpower
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Good ole' Mamoswine, my late game sweeper and beast of a Pokemon. Most people forget that it doesn't have to be used on a Hail Team. Not much to say. He mop's up.

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Clefable (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 212 HP/70 Def/228 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Softboiled
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
- Encore
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Clefable, my special wall and paralyzer. Encore is just nasty, and most of the time very unexpected, when the opponent tries to set up, I stop them in their tracks with Encore and switch to a counter, or just whittle them away with Seismic Toss. The EV's have a little in defense so I can take more physical abuse. It's worked so far.




And that's my team. All criticisms welcome! Thanks for reading.
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I have Heatran for Skarm, and Clefable beats it 1-1 as well.

But I do agree. I was thinking Clefable could be a CM sweeper, but idk, I'll wait on input.
 
Hi, I'm really not that rater, and I'm a noob, but I do think that your team is physically-oriented. You should be walled by most physical walls not named Skarmory (since he is now vulnerable to Earthquake) or somethig similar to that. :) I think you need to balance your team in both sides.

i'm a noob so sorry if this really doesn't help .
 
Airknight said:
I have Heatran for Skarm, and Clefable beats it 1-1 as well.

But I do agree. I was thinking Clefable could be a CM sweeper, but idk, I'll wait on input.
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I think you should, really. unprepared people will have to fear 120 BP attacks (Fire Blast, Blizzard, Thunder etc.)
 
I think you need to sacrifice one of Clefab[le's moveslot for Gravity. :toast: Something like this:

Clefable @ Leftovers
Nature : Modest/Calm EVS: 212 HP/70 DEF/228 SPA

Thunder/Blizzard/Fire Blast
Thunder/Blizzard/Fire Blast
Gravity
Calm Mind/Softboiled

and since you're losing your status inducer, I suggest replacing Jirachi's Body Slam to Thunder Wave. :D
 
For Hippowdon, try using Stockpile as a last move. Get a couple of boots in, and so long as you use Slack Off approproatly, crit hits and phazing are pretty much the only ways to move him.
 
I believe Gravity teams should focus either on the abuse of Phazers and entry hazards, or extreme offense using the lower-accuracy moves that people would use less. You're team doesn't seem to do either. Not only that, but a gravity team needs multiple gravity-users. Of ~8 or 9 pokemon that can learn gravity (I think) only a few are viable: Blissey, Jirachi, Clefable, Dusknoir. You have 3 of these pokemon, but only Dusknoir is using it. I suggest modeling Clefable's and Jirachi's movesets to hold gravity.
 
Gravity Jirachi with Thunder gives plenty of Paralysis and lots of power.

Also, with Mamoswine and Hippowdon, I feel you have slightly redundant coverage in terms of beastly Earthquakes. I would stick to using one or the other or even trying Rhyperior. He has ungodly Earthquakes in Gravity and Stone Edge gets an accuracy boost and I think provides unresisted STAB coverage in Gravity off a base 140 attack. I think it would be silly to not at least consider the option.

Anyways, by narrowing it down to one of Mamoswine, Hippowdon or Rhyperior, this frees up a slot for another offensive pokemon allowing for Jirachi and Clefable to run Gravity sets (I feel themed teams need 3 users of that theme). It is always good to have a back up in case you don't get your Gravity abusing going.

Heracross comes to mind for a few reasons. Firstly, in Gravity, Stone Edge and Megahorn won't miss, which is a big deal. Secondly, he is very strong out of Gravity and can provide useful coverage for your team. Finally, with Gravity and Ground attacks from other members, Gengar and Rotom-A can be killed much easier clearing Heracross's main obstacles.


So to summarize:
Turn Hippowdon + Mamoswine into Rhyperior + Heracross.

Of course I am no Gravity expert, this just seems like a good idea to me.

Cheers!

PS: Magma Storm Heatran makes me happy.
 
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