(OU RMT) Gimmicky Team turned successful

[Destiny100]

Okay, before I post my team I'd just like to give some general information. I've always been a keen battler and I always have fun with predictions ect. Most of my previous teams were based on someone's team copying 2-3 pokes with synergy to ensure I had a good team, but that itself wasn't great as I never had full dominance over a team I didn't create 100%.
So I set about to build my own team from scratch, however I never had much success, always wondering why I'd get hammered, having a low rating and CRE.

However, a few weeks ago, after having a chaotic time with coursework deadlines and homework, the only time I had on the computer spare (that was usually used for RNG purposes) was for Shoddy.

I was only having fun so I quickly complied a team together, however it was surprisingly successful or more successful that my other teams, and it's a Gimmicky Team too! And no, this is not a Gimmicky Team, this is Gimmicky turned reasonably successful... By my standards anyway. Oh yeah, I suck when it comes to Evs :).

Read :)

Team building process

What's so Gimmicky about this? My Infernape is a Nasty Plot variant with Grassknot/HP Ice, Vaccum Wave and Flamethrower. My Blissey was sub + 3 attacks. With two priority pokes both brilliant for late-game sweeping, it was quite successful. Latias and Tyranitar because I thought it would unite the team. The Latias was Choice Specs, destroying holes in people's team, hit and run. With Tyranitar (Banded) coming in on other Latias' and pursuit them out.

Two Priority users? Although I did win a fair few I thought "Meh, bring in a Zapdos" and although it gave my team better synergy, allowing me to switch to more than "just" Latias for my extreme EQ weakness.

However, for some reason it wasn't working that well. I didn't know exactly what so I started testing (basically). I returned Scizor as the combo between the two were so good. I replaced Tyranitar because 1. I removed a Ground weakness and 2. Life Orb Starmie is brilliant at destroying teams without a Blissey.

I started to get serious, I removed Blissey, sure it was good but I changed it into standard. Bye Gimmicky Bliss :(.
I also changed Starmie because I got fucked over so many times by Torment Heatran. Taunt Gyarados FTW

Finally... Onto the Team now

@ Focus Sash
Blaze
Timid Nature
4 Hp/ 252 SAtk/ 252 Spe
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-Nasty Plot
-Grass Knot/HP Ice
-Vaccum Wave
-Flamethrower

Ahh... another basic Infernape lead. No wait? Nasty Plot LEAD?! Are you crazy? Please let me explain and no, I'm not only keeping it because it's Gimmicky and beats a certain lead. I've been so successful with this lead against different leads, and best of all. I can bring it back late game if I didn't die and sweep. Grass knot for Swamperts or HP for Salamences. I use whichever one I feel like using :) and on my mood. Mostly HP ICE though.

The Moves are pretty simple, giving me very good coverage. Flamethrower because of it's accuracy, I'm very weary of using low accuracy moves unless I know it makes a huge difference. Once I get a + 2 with NP, flamethrower does a beast of a damage. Vaccum wave is priority move, very important if Infernape doesn't KO for example against a Mamoswine. I'll Flamethrower then VW for the KO.

A very good lead IMO, and contributes a lot to my team, although it may not be the best lead against other leads even failing to KO. I can bring another pokemon such as Scizor or Lucario to revenge it with priority later on, if straight away if I feel like it.

@ Choice Specs
Levitate
Modest Nature
4 Hp/ 252 SAtk/ 252 Spe
-Draco Meteor
-Trick
-Surf
-T-Bolt.

I know I said with Infernape that accuracy matters and with this Latias, Draco Meteor with Choice Specs!? But this is my bomb you could call it.
It fires off Draco Meteors then runs. The only thing that cripples this is Blissey (commonly used) then if I get the chance, I'll Trick it. I'm not great with Evs as said above but I think this should do. Max SAtk to do max damage, max speed to outspeed? (Not sure, may change as I haven't done any calculations on what it'll outspeed - speed tie with other modest Latias'?)

Although Trick is extremely risky I've found it to be quite good, saving me the game sometimes against walls I can't take out.

Latias is extremely good paired with Infernape as it renders EQ useless while also doing a massice amount of damage! I'm not so worried about other Latias' as I have blissey and steels at the ready, HP Fire Latias' are rare so I can safely switch to Scizor.

@ Leftovers
Technician
Adamant Nature
252 Hp/ 252 Atk/ 4 Spe
-Swords Dance
-Bullet Punch
-Pursuit
-Superpower

What can I say about this? This is the standard SD set for Scizor. I've sweeped several teams with just this. After Infernape dies to a lead Scizor can take on, SD 1-2 times and spam BP. Pursuit to take care of running Latias, after surviving whatever it throws at it - reason for 252 Hp Evs. Superpower to take out pesty steels trying to wall this thing.

I've actually seen a decrease of Heatrans running Scarf (don't bite my head off if it's not true, it's just my opinion). So if a Heatran switches in, I'll just Superpower, unless I know for a fact it's scarfed in which case I'll go Latias or Blissey.

Scizor, a key role to the team, revenging, sweeping and even taking hits from Dragons :D.

@ Life Orb
Inner Focus
Jolly Nature
4 Hp/ 252 Atk/ 252 Spe
-Swords Dance
-Extremespeed
-Close Combat
-Ice Punch!

Okay, the standard Lucario. But why Lucario and Scizor? As stated above it's for double priority, if scizor goes down then Lucario should be able to finish it off with ES.

Ice Punch > Crunch because it's very good for unsuspecting Salemences and Glicors who switch in thinking they can wall me.
It's a very good lategame sweeper, saving my ass several times after a SD is up, however with so many Rotom's flying around. I sometimes regret not using Crunch > Ice Punch however if the Rotom uses Overheat I'm fucked anyway.

@ Leftovers
Intemidate
Jolly Nature
156 Hp/ 72 Atk/ 92 Def/ 188 Spe
-Taunt
-Dragon Dance
-Waterfall
-Stone Edge

I needed a taunter to stop stall and pokes setting up and naturally Gyarados came to mind. I copied the analysis but because Im using Jolly nature I might have to change the Evs around? May need help.

Jolly natured so I can Stone Edge other Gyarados that haven't got a DD up. But yeah, does the job of a taunter and takes care of Heatran and some flying types.

Finally...

@ Leftovers
Natural Cure
Bold Natured
152 Hp/ 252 Def/ 104 SAtk.
-Flamethrower
-Ice Beam
-Softboiled
-T-Wave

The best SDef in the game. It checks so many special sweepers and shits in their face. This little pink blob will come in on any SAtk and T-Wave their ass off :D. It's used quite frequently and Flamethrower + Ice Beam give it nice coverage against people who think they're clever in predicting only 1 move. Flamethrower Scizor and if it's T-waved. FInish it off with another one, in comes Salamence. DD up and Ice fuck's it over.

But quite frankly I haven't seen that many special sweepers bar latias and a few Starmie (that I can think of from the top of my head). I'm thinking this is my weak point in my team but I'm reluctant to change this team-member incase I do get owned by teams that could've been avoided if I have blissey.

Team Again...
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Closing Comments

Okay, so this may not be the best of teams. But I'm hovering around the 1280-1300 CRE Mark. I really would like to make this team go further and I know as I get higher, more and more stall teams will appear but I'd like to get higher than 1300 CRE so that's why I'm posting my team here :D.

Hopefully you can help my team develop and close any gaps I didn't realise

Thanks and rate away :)
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[Destiny100]

Threat List: (stolen from Gary the gengar who stole from Atticus who stole it from Jabba’s thread which was stolen from KG's thread):

Defensive Threats:

Blissey – Well my Scizor and Lucario are the key players but Gyarados can also take the Calm variants after a couple of DDs

Bronzong – Hmm... not a huge deal IMO. Taunt Gyarados to fuck it over. Scizor and Lucario and kill it. If Infernape is still around NP and Flamethrower, or just flamethrower if it lost the focus sash and fearing EQ. Heck even Blissey can take this out :).

Celebi – Scizor absolutely destroys this, Lucario can too after a SD. Blissey can wall and T-wave and also flamethrower to death.

Cresselia – Scizor, or Taunt Gyarados to taunt then DD up. Provided it doesn't carry charge beam, but I haven't seen many, only 2-3 so far.

Dusknoir- I haven't actually faced one with a problem yet. If I can get Latias in without taking any damage from Dusknoir itself then I can cripple it with Trick then go from there.

Forretress – Erm. SD Scizor? Lucario? Infernape. Not a problem

Gliscor – Infernape when it has HP Ice and alive can take it. Draco Meteor from Latias... Even Lucario with the Ice punch if they don't expect it.

Gyarados - Latias, Grass Knot Infernape provided I use it, Gyarados with Stone edge :D. Yeah, not a problem.

Hippowdon – Hmm.. well this is interesting. The only time I've seen it is as a lead. I'll usually switch to Latais to take the EQ or SR :D. Then trick/surf depending on prediction. After a SD Lucario can take it :).

Jirachi – Erm, ouch. Scizor with Superpower and Lucario make it mince meat.

Rotom-A – Not a huge problem, but it does get on my nerves. Draco Meteor from Latias owns it and I can pick it off with BP with Scizor. However otherwise I just switch to Blissey to take any attack... but Trick might fuck Blissey over.

Skarmory – Taunt Gyarados and Infernape. If it decideds to whirlwind Scizor or Lucario. Bam. Fighting does heavy damage to it. Even blissey can Flamethrower/T-Wave it.

Snorlax – Not too bad. Taunt with Gyarados and try to do damage to it later. I may have to risk something

Suicune – T-Bolt from Latias, or Lucario can kill it with CC after it's been weaked

Swampert – Bit annoying if it's anything other than a lead. If I don't carry grass knot on infernape, I have to rely on Latias Draco Meteor or Tricking it and hopefully picking it off with Scizor/Lucario

Tyranitar – Lucario if it's not Choice Scarf, Scizor can set up in it's face + BP.

Vaporeon – Not a huge problem, Taunt gyarados can taunt it and Latias and T-Bolt it's face later :)

Zapdos – Not too bad IMO. Blissey to take it, T-Wave cripples it, Latias and Gyarados with Stone edge can finish it off.

Offensive Threats:

Azelf – Scizor

Breloom – Blissey is lol with this. It thinks it can leech seed me while I flamethrower it's ass. Lucario owns it. Scizor can pick it off if it somehow survives

Empoleon- Infernape if it's still alive, Scizor, Lucario, Nuf said.

Gengar – Scizor or Blissey to cripple it.

Gyarados – Stone edge from Gyarados or Latias :D

Heatran – Depends on variant. Lucario/Scizor on some variants. Latias on scarf ones. Blissey to take a hit when needed.

Infernape – Only seen as lead so far so no problem. VW by Inferanpe then pick it off with scizor/Lucario.

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Jolteon/Raikou – Blissey :D. Unless Raikou subs but I've never seen one in OU yet.

Latias – Scizor without HP Fire, Blissey to cripple it, finish it off with something else. NP Infernape does good too

Kingdra – Erm if it's DD variant. I haven't met one yet so not sure. Special one = BLissey + T-wave = crippled

Lucario – Scizor, Infernape, Latias sometimes, Gyarados, yeah it's fine.

Machamp – Slowly chip away it's health or if it's KO'd my Blissey bring in Latais and spam DM

Magnezone – Infernape, Scizor, Lucario. As long as it doesn't have HP Fire lol, otherwise straight to blissey :D

Mamoswine – It's suicide lead type that I've only ever seen and Infernape owns it's ass.

Metagross – Not too bad, Infernape, scizor and Lucario all take it.

Salamence - This think is a fucker for my team. Well only the DD types anyway, if it gets a DD up and Outrages. It can fuck my team over. It's pretty much GG unless my lucario is still alive but even that takes a crapload of damage. My beat bet is Scizor, then take a hit. Hopefully it gets confusion hax then Ice punch by Lucario

Scizor – Scizor, Infernape, Lucario, Gyarados.

Starmie – Blissey cripple then finish it off later with something. Latias, Scizor, you name it :)

Tyranitar – Scizor, Specs Surf on the switch, lucario CC if it's not scarfed.

Weavile – Scizor, Infernape if it's still in good health :). Gyarados, yeah it's fine

Zapdos – Stone Edge by Gyarados, Blissey with the cripple? It's okay to handle :)

 

[Darkvirus]

use crunch or Stone edge on your lucario sue to glicor is EV'ed to outspeed Max speed luck with a positive nature crunch will mean you cna hit non scarf ghosts for SE or use stone edge to hit Gyra for SE its your choice

 

[Setsuna]

The absence of Stealth Rock is probably one of the key factors of why this team hasn't reached a more respected CRE on Shoddy. Also, the combination of Infernape with Lucario and the fact of having two swords dancers that share very similar weakness, is another thing that I dislike.
On with the lead, you have probably surprised your opponents many times, which is great, but you also need to think in how to keep being effective for the rest of the match; and here is when my advice comes. I won't recommend you to change your lead, you can always think of more standard leads with other purposes, but that's up to you and I will comment more about this later.
As for Scizor, I suggest using a simple Choice Band set instead of SD, why? You mentioned you had troubles with Salamence, specifically DDMence. Also, having Lucario as the main physical attacker, SD Scizor gets kind of redundant since you will be needing a turn to set up every time you try to hurt your opponent with any of the two, which is not so good in terms of effectiveness. And what makes Scizor-Lucario's combo so interesting to play is the ability of scouting and attacking that they can play. So I want you to try out this set of Scizor:

Adamant | 168 HP / 176 Atk / 160 SpD / 4 Spe
U-turn | Bullet Punch | Superpower | Pursuit

In addition to what I just said about this set, there are some Pokemon like DDTyranitar, Latias and Salamence that you will hit harder than with the current set, and you need yo hit those Pokemon as hard as you can because they can pose a significant threat to the team. CB Scizor means that all of them will have a more difficult time against the team in general, and revenge killing will be easier.

On Lucario, I suggest using Bullet Punch or Stone Edge over Ice Punch, and an Adamant nature. Nowadays every Gliscor out there run a Jolly nature with more than 216 Spd EVs, so there is practically no chance for Lucario to surprise Gliscor. By using Bullet Punch, ScarfTar won't be one of Luke's RK, and the likes of Jolly Mamoswine and Gengar either. The sole purpose for Stone Edge is to prevent Gyarados from stopping your sweeping time, so give both a try ;)

Stealth Rock... they need to have a space here, for example on Blissey instead of Ice Beam for example. Blissey is like just supporting the team and acting as a special sponge (i.e.: Latias, Starmie, etc) and by adding SR to the team the only thing is going to happen is that your success rate will increase.

Last but not least, the team is slightly weak to DD Gyarados, if it gets a DD in front of Scizor/Lucario, you will be in trouble. And the simplest way to solve this is replacing Latias' Choice Specs and give her a Scarf instead. It will not only mean that Gyarados won't be a problem anymore but DD Salamence/Kingdra too. I would just change the item and leave the rest of the moveset intact.

Hope to have helped, and good luck.

 

[Destiny100]

That's for the comment. I'll certainly change Ice Punch to Stone Edge and try that, however I'm very very reluctant to change it's nature from Jolly > Adamant because Jolly allows me to outspeed and KO other Lucario's with Adamant natures.

I'll take your advice about SR on Blissey :).

And I'll change Scizor :). I'll test it later today ^^