OU RMT: Offensive Team.

[Gasoline]

So i've been using this team for awhile and i learned that if i'm gonna use a team of sweepers i may as well use Bulky ones. This is overall one of my best teams and i really want someone's opinion on it.

Looking at the team from a glance:

A closer look at the team:

Azelf@Focus Sash
6atk/252sp.atk/252speed
Levitate
Timid
-Stealth Rocks
-Psychic
-Flamethrower
-Explosion

Azelf, one of my favorite leads. It always gets the rocks up for my sweepers and then can explode on the enemy if fast enough and already eliminate 1 of the potential threats.

Celebi@Leftovers
252HP/220def/36speed
Natural Cure
Bold Nature
-Leech Seed
-Heal Bell
-Recover
-Psychic

Even though its a team of sweepers, it still needs support, and thats what celebi is for.it heals any status to the sweepers and sets up leech seed for them. This celebi is usually one of the last pokemon that survive on my team.

Scizor@Leftovers
252HP/180atk/76def (or so i think...idk i may have forgotten the ev spread but its in those 3 stats.)
Technician
Adamant Nature
- Swords dance
- Roost
- Bullet Punch
- X-scissor/Pursuit

This is my own bulky scizor set that is designed to come in on a physical sweeper and set up. Most physical sweepers i come in on with this expect an ordinary life orb set so i get the chance for a Swords dance almost half the time. It is one of the most threatening sweepers on my team, taking hits and sending back even stronger ones. I've been considering Pursuit on this set instead of X-scissor but i'm not so sure.

Heatran@Choice Scarf
6hp/252sp.atk/252speed
Flash Fire
Modest Nature
-Fire Blast
-Dragon Pulse/Hidden Power [electric]
-Earth Power
-Explosion

The revenge kiler for my team! He works great with Scizor and Latias seeing as he takes any hits for them, and boosts from Scizors Fire weakness. Modest nature is good for me cause i like the 394 sp.atk but i have been considering a timid nature with some more HP investment so that he can take some more hits and be very fast. Also i'm consider Hidden Power electric on him for pesky Gyarados or Vaporeon. Fire Blast rarely misses for me so i'm not too worried about that.

Latias@Life Orb
112HP/204Sp.atk/192speed
Levitate
Timid Nature
-Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor
-Calm Mind
-Recover
- Thunderbolt/Surf

It is originally the ubers set from smogon but i took off soul dew and put on life orb to make it a bulky OU sweeper. Sure it may not outspeed gengar or other things but it does do its job. I can't decide on surf or t-bolt but i may stay with t-bolt as i have my heatran and scizor combo along with gyarados to kill off any unwanted Fire types. Though since it has Calm mind and life orb i was thinking about Draco Meteor over Dragon Pulse sure it can miss but its more powerful and like i always say "More Power, More Fun".

Gyarados@Leftovers
156HP/108Atk/100def/144speed
Intimidate
Adamant Nature
-Dragon Dance
-Waterfall
-Stone Edge
-Taunt

Another threatening Bulky sweeper of my team, i mainly use him to break down some walls that usually annoy me. (Blissey, Umbreon, Cresselia, Celebi) With Taunt he stops walls from using nasty Thunder waves or Whirlwinds on me while also setting up for a sweep. But even if he did get statused Celebi can heal him with Heal Bell, yet i still go with taunt to prevent it from happening on the spot.

Sweeper Threats:
Azelf: With A nasty plot set i can have trouble. But then again Latias and Heatran are there to try and revenge kill the damned thing.

Salamence: This thing (when set up with DD) can annihalate my team. Chances are that with celebi being a wall it can stall out salamence until it is dead. Or latias can take care of it during its sweep.

Latias: Yes, latias is a huge threat to this team, as it can sometimes take Heatran's Dragon Pulse and scizor's non SD'd Bullet punch and kill me with Hidden Power Fire or Surf.

Rotom-A: This thing is positively starting to piss me off, it can have Overheat or Leaf storm which can drag down my team along with Shadow Ball and t-bolt. and the fact that it is defensive is no laughing matter.

Togekiss: With Air slash and serene grace along with Flamethrower and thunder wave it can crucially cripple my team sometimes.

Jirachi: The scarf sets really destroy my ream, but gyarados can come in on a iron head and survive and start setting up.Scizor can set up if it doens't have fire punch which it can possibly survive.

Zapdos: With heat wave and thunderbolt and a possible Hidden Power Ice it can threaten some pokes on my team. but then again it can be countered by heatran and latias.

Lucario: With close combat crunch and extremespeed with swords dance and life orb it can be quiet the threat if heatran isn't there to kill it.

(thats all the sweeper threats i can think of...tell me if you find anymore.)

DEFENSIVE THREATS!:

Blissey: Absolutely one of the most annoying pokemon ever. this thing can take my gyaras waterfall so annoyingly well sometimes, and it can switch in on heatrans Fire blast and cause some trouble (make that double, lol team rocket ftl)

Cresselia: With the power of calm mind and thunder wave it does get frustrating to kill.

Vaporeon: With surf ice beam and a possible hp electric along with wish its so annoying to kill. And that large HP stat, lets not forget...

Dusknoir: Will-o-Wisp and the element punchs along with shadow sneak make it an annoying pokemon to kill especially when it will just pain split everytime you hit the damn thing!

Celebi: Quite possibly the most annoying pokemon i've ever faced, hence why i use it on my team. With leech seed and Calm Mind it never gets easier to kill.

Swampert: With no grass attack on the team i just have to hope i'm set up enough to do damage to the damn thing.

Forretress: The fact this thing learns all 3 set up moves (toxic spikes, spikes, stealth rocks) makes it even more annoying without having to worry about explosion or rapid spin.

Tentacruel: This thing deserves the name Tentacruel as it can be so annoying and frustrating for me to kill with rapid spin t-spikes good sp.def and speed it just seems to have nothing to kill it.

Once again, any other threats you see, tell me. i would appreciate it. :)



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[Bloo]

On Celebi, Psychic does not provide much coverage against most of the threats that exist in the OU metagame. The metagame is riddled with various Steel-types that resist Psychic, making it a rather poor option. I recommend using Grass Knot over Psychic. Grass Knot gives Celebi much more coverage, allowing it to 2HKO Pokemon such as Tyranitar. Grass Knot also allows Celebi to handle Pokemon such as Gyarados more effectively. Basically, Grass Knot provides Celebi with more coverage then Psychic, making it the better choice. To actually aid Scizor's sweep, consider using Thunder Wave over Heal Bell or Leech Seed on Celebi. Celebi lures common Pokemon that stop Scizor (Heatran, Infernape, Rotom, etc), meaning you can cripple them with Thunder Wave, meaning Scizor will be able to outrun the aforementioned Pokemon and kill them when they have been weakened enough

I also recommend using a Naive nature over Timid on Azelf. Timid lowers Azelf's Attack stat, meaning Explosion will become weaker. With Naive, you'll be able to hit opposing Pokemon harder. You still retain a + Speed Nature by using Naive. The Special Defense drop given from using a Naive nature is not much of a concern as Azelf will not be taking most Special Attacks, since its meant to set up Stealth Rock, then go out with with an Explosion. Overall, Naive will be the better nature as it will make Explosion more powerful as Naive does not lower your Attack stat like Timid does.

Consider a +Speed nature on Heatran. With a +Speed nature, you'll be able to outrun an Adamant Gyarados with one Dragon Dance, in addition to outspeeding most 130 base Speed Pokemon. Also, since Choice Scarf Heatran is quite popular and usually runs a +Speed nature, its a good idea to at least tie with it by using a +Speed nature of your own. I recommend Naive nature since your using Explosion. With Grass Knot on Celebi, you'll be able to handle Gyarados much better, so you can safely use Dragon Pulse over Hidden Power Electric on Heatran.

On Scizor, I recommend using Brick Break over X-Scissor. Brick Break will give Scizor much more coverage, allowing you to strike Steel-types who resist Bullet Punch, as well as break any screens set up by your opponent. You'll also be able to hit Heatran and Magnezone quite hard on the switch-in. SD Scizor is better using Special Defense rather then Defense EVs. You'll be able to set up on Pokemon such as Vaporeon and defensive Starmie. You could try a spread of 252 HP /76 Atk /176 SpD /4 Spe or 200 HP/ 176 SpD/ 132 Atk. The first spread gives Scizor more durability to allow it to better set up Swords Dance while the second spread gives Scizor more attacking power thanks to the more Attack EVs.

Also, use Dragon Pulse on Latias. Draco Meteor will just be lowering your Special Attack, and when you spend time using Calm Mind, you don't really want to get rid of the Special Attack boosts by using Draco Meteor. Dragon Pulse will be hitting Pokemon plenty hard, and weal deal consistent damage without lowering your Special Attack. Also, I recommend using Surf instead of Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt is used to deal with Water-types such as Gyarados and Vaporeon, which you have Celebi for. Since Celebi is taking care of Water-types, you can use Surf instead to 2HKO Pokemon such as Tyranitar while hitting Magnezone, who resist the combination of Electric + Dragon. Also, if you want to better handle Jirachi and Salamence like you mention in the threat list, consider a Swampert lead over Azelf. Magnezone + Mence kills this team easily, as Magnezone can easily tarp your Scizor, since it does not have a Fighting-type move to hit it with. Magnezone will then kill Scizor, and Salamence can later come in on something like Heatran's Earth Power, set up a DD, then sweep. Swampert can handle Jirachi like a champ and can kill Salamence with Ice Beam while surviving a boosted Outrage most of the time, so you could consider that.

 

[joshe]

Bloo pretty much covered it all, although, Salamence + something to take out Scizor (like heatran or magnezone) destroys this team in a jiffy. It can easily get a Dragon Dance on Celebi and Heatran locked into an Earth Power and in some cases, even a Fire Blast. One thing we can do is change your lead to a Swampert Lead. Swampert can't even be OHKOed by a +1 Life Orb Adamant Outrage coming from Salamence, while OHKOing with Ice Beam provided Stealth Rock is up. Swampert can also check Tyranitar, which you have quite a bit of trouble with, especially DD-Babiri Tar and Choice Band Tar. 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def, Relaxed, with the item: Leftovers, and a moveset consisting of: Stealth Rock, Earthquake, Ice Beam, and Protect should suffice. Protect is for scouting and to evade an Explosion since you do not have a Ghost-type to take one, while Earthquake takes out Tyranitar and the like, and Ice Beam is for the aforementioned Salamence. The only thing you lose by replacing Swampert with Azelf is a quick boom on the opponent, and a fast Stealth Rock, but I can't see any other justified reasons why you shouldn't change to Swampert, as it checks many threats, and has excellent defensive synergy with the team.

Other things you can do to weaken it or not let it set up is to basically go with most of the suggestions Bloo said, being Thunder wave Celebi etc...

Good Luck.

 

[Snorlaxe]

Hello! =)

On Azelf, I recommend using Fire Blast over Flamethrower. Due to Azelf's frailness, the accuracy drop will rarely matter. Fire Blast has the power to 2HKO the standard Metagross lead (with Occa Berry factored in), wheras Flamethrower only gets a 3HKO. I would also use Taunt over Thunderbolt, as Taunt prevents the opponent from getting up their Stealth Rock; seeing as Stealth Rock can greatly hinder Gyarados's ability to sweep (you have no Spinner), this can be invaluable. Plus, I agree with Bloo: use a Naive nature on Azelf, because Explosion wants all of the power that it can possibly muster.

Celebi is generally a very inferior Cleric in OU; it has better options and cant switch in as easily as other Clerics. I instead recommned using Blissey in that spot; Blissey can switch in on virtually any special attack, and use Aromatherapy to Heal status. It also gets the added advantage of being able to provide your team with Wish support. Here is the set:

Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Def / 40 SpA / 216 SpD
Calm nature (+Special Defense, -Attack)
~ Aromatherapy
~ Wish
~ Ice Beam
~ Protect / Thunder Wave

Aromatherapy is for healing status, and Wish is for healing Blissey and her teammates fabulously. Ice Beam can hit Salamence and Flygon (plus the less common Dragonite) switchins. The final moveslot is a toss up between Protect and Thunder Wave; if you want your Wishes to come true risk-free, then Protect is great. If you want Blissey to be able to spread around status, then Thunder Wave is an awesome option.

On Scizor, I would use Superpower over X-Scissor or Pursuit. Superpower allows you to hit a whole host of other Pokemon for super effective damage that X-Scissor just cant manage. Magnezone and Blissey are OHKOed (even without a Swords Dance), along with Lucario. Even Steelix is 2HKOed. Brick Break is another option for a fighting type move on Scizor, but Superpower's superior power will usually benifit you more in the heat of battle. On Scizor, I would consider taking 56 of the Hit Point EVs and placing them in Special Defense so Scizor wont be OHKOed by Celebi's Hidden Power Fire. However, this is not at all necessary.

On Heatran, you should definitely run a Naive nature. Naive allows you to outspeed positive base 130s such as Jolteon and Aerodactyl, while not reducting the power of your Explosion. It also lets you outrun Adamant Gyarados after a Dragon Dance, and Adamant Tyranitar after two Dragon Dances. I would consider using Hidden Power Grass instead of the current Dragon Pulse / Hidden Power Electric. Your Heatran set is currently completely walled by Swampert, who can continue to switch in on your attacks with ease.

On Latias, change the EV spread to 4 Hp / 252 SpA / 252 Spe. The reason that was the Ubers set spread in the Strategy Pokedex was because of the fact that they are assuming it is going to be played in Ubers; in OU, the extra Hit Point EVs will not help you survive anything, and 4 Hp / 252 SpA / 252 Spe gives you lots more power to hit the opponent with. Definitely use Dragon Pulse over Draco Meteor; Draco Meteor drops your Special Attack by two stages each time you use it (not sure if you were aware of this), so it is a huge waste to use on a Calm Mind set. I would use Thunderbolt over Surf as it can kill Tentacruel and Suicune, two Pokemon that your team seems to have trouble with.

Anyway, I hope I helped, and good luck! =)

EDIT: Bloo beat me to it on a lot of these things, but I would still consider the Blissey thing.

 

[joshe]

I seriously hope you know Snorlaxe, that if he switches Celebi out for a Blissey, he gets 6-0ed by Gyarados. After it Gets a Dragon Dance, Scizor, Heatran, and Azelf (and Blissey), get OHKOed or 2HKOed (scizor) by Waterfall, Latias gets it with either Stone Edge or Ice Fang, as does Gyarados (Stone Edge).

Also Aromatherapy and Wish are completely illegal together. Aromatherapy being a breeding move and Wish being a NYPC move.

 

[november1093]

you have a team full of late game sweepers, and no spinner or spin blocker. Maybe you should try out a Forretress. He can spin away all the entry hazards I can see you having problems with (esspecially Gyara cuz of the 25% health loss). He can also add some entry hazards of his own to the mix making it WAY easier for your other late game sweepers to do their job. Spin blocking may not be necessary for you but you can try it out.