OU Swift Swim/Rain Dance-Tar Team

sadoldpoygon22

sadoldpoygon22

So I have been trying out a dfferent kind of team to somehow counter other weather teams. The only reason I have Rain Dance instead of Drizzle is because more than one of the Pokemon on my team have Swift Swim.I also am using a Tyranitar for a little suprise factor.
I am also new to the Smogon Community, but have been reading their guides for a while now, so don't hate on my team. I would like some advice for my team, though.
So here is my team:

Tornadus
Hasty (252 Sp.Atk 4 Sp.Def 252 Spe)
Item: Damp Rock
Ability: Prankster
Moves:
-Rain Dance
-Hurricane
-Hidden Power Ground/Superpower
-U-Turn

This is my lead for setting up Rain Dance. It has Priority +1 RD to at least set one RD before it is knocked out. It is also good with spamming Hurricanes and scouting for its later use in the battle. HP Ground is for dealing with Electric and Rock types that may OHKO it and for Steel types that can wall it, or Superpower can be used instead due to its frailty.
Tyranitar
Sassy (204 HP 48 Def 224 Sp.Atk 32 Sp.Def)
Item: Focus Sash
Ability: Unnerve
Moves:
-Surf
-Thunder
-Blizzard
-Superpower
This variety of Tyranitar can suprise some poeple due to being mostly specially orientated and having Thunder (50% accurate in Sand) and no Sand Stream. Thunder helps against opposing Water-types that may OHKO it, and Surf is a good spamming move, especially in rain.
Blizzard is for taking care of Dragon-types that would otherwise wall it, and
Superpower is it's only physical move to deal with Ferrothorn . The FS allows it to survive at least one Fighting Type move that would otherwise murder it before it could even attack.

Tentacrool
Bold (252 HP 120 Def 136 Spe)
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Rain Dish
Moves:
-Toxic Spikes
-Rapid Spin
-Toxic
-Scald

This is my only spinner on the team and is able to set up some Toxic Spikes while having a 30% chance to burn the opponent with Scalds.
I will submit the rest of the team shortly, I ran out of room.
 
Heres more of my team:
Beartic
Adamant (252 Atk 4 Sp.Def 252 Spe)
Item:Expert Belt
Ability: Swift Swim
Moves:
-Aqua Jet
-Icicle Crash
-Swords Dance/Bulk Up
-Taunt/Rain Dance
Beartic is a very dangerous sweeper, with enough power from a Swords Dance and Rain to deal at least 40% of an uninvested Pokemon whose purpose is for sweeping. Taunt is for slower set up sweepers, and Bulk Up is for helping it gain better physical bulk.
 
Hey I like the basic idea of your team so far. I would run superpower on Tornadus because ice types are going to be an issue for your team and HP Ground doesn't hit ice types that hard. Plus HP Ground is really only better for hitting fire types and the only real fire lead is Ninetales. Superpower can still steel types hard too. Also I would recommend you putting a slowbro on your team if you can. Slowbro is a beast in rain and can hit hard with Scald and deal serious damage to fighting types with STAB Psychic.
 
I'll think of adding Superpower onto Tornadus, and adding Slowbro. I disagree with HP Ground, though, because there is really no way to get past Electric types, other than a Kabutops with Earthquake and change Tornadus' HP to Grass for mainly hitting Rotom-W and opposing Water Types. Thanks for the advice!
 
OK
Now to add my last two Pokemon:

Kabutops
Adamant (252 Atk 252 Spe 4 SpDef)
Item:Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
Moves
-Waterfall
-Stone Edge
-Swords Dance
-Earthquake/Low Kick
This is my secondary Swift Swimmer set that becomes almost twice as dangerous as my other Swift Swimmer, with both rain and STAB to back it up, plus higher Attack. It also has EdgeQuakeJet Coverage (I added Jet cuz Im cool like dat). Low Kick hits Ferrothorn harder than Earthquake, but your going to hate if they have Iron Barbs and Rocky Helmet.

Slowbro
Bold (252 HP 24 Def 232 SpDef)
Ability: Regenerator
Item:Leftovers
Moves
-Scald
-Slack Off
-Toxic
-Ice Beam

This is a wall set that is mainly broken by very bulky Wallbreakers and Stall Teams. with Toxic and/or Will-o-Wisp.
So how do you think? Post away and tell me any flaws I may have with the team.
 
Hello there. Nice team. Tornadus looks fine. I'm running one on my own Rain Team, actually. Stone Edge already misses enough of the time, you don't need to add to that frustration with Blizzard; change it to Ice Beam.

I would use Low Kick over Earthquake any day of the week, if just for Ferrothorn, who looks pretty problematic for your team.
 
Alright, thanks for the advice!
Ill make sure to add Low Kick to it, even though it's the only Physical counter for Electric types other than all Rotom forms, Zapdos and Elektross. Now if Kabutops got Superpower, I would use that instead of Low Kick. But I still want to keep EdgeQuake coverage for it, besides, I added Superpower to Tyranitar now.
 
sadoldpoygon22 said:
OK
Now to add my last two Pokemon:

Kabutops
Adamant (252 Atk 252 Spe 4 SpDef)
Item:Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
Moves
-Waterfall
-Stone Edge
-Swords Dance
-Earthquake
This is my secondary Swift Swimmer set that becomes almost twice as dangerous as my other Swift Swimmer, with both rain and STAB to back it up, plus higher Attack. It also has EdgeQuakeJet Coverage (I added Jet cuz Im cool like dat).

Slowbro
Bold (252 HP 24 Def 232 SpDef)
Ability: Regenerator
Item:Leftovers
Moves
-Scald
-Slack Off
-Toxic
-Ice Beam

This is a wall set that is mainly broken by very bulky Wallbreakers and Stall Teams. with Toxic and/or Will-o-Wisp.
So how do you think? Post away and tell me any flaws I may have with the team.
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Great additions. I like psychic on slowbro instead of slack off just because he already heals with regenerator. But it's a good set. Your team is goin to smash.
 
I'll add Psychic as coverage, but I'm still thinking about it for stallwar sakes. I also have found out that Slowbro is completely walled by Ferrothorn, so I might be thinking about Focus Blast instead. Thanks for the advice!
 
Hi, nice team

I am only having a problem with if you can keep the rain, Tornadus is quite frail so there is a big chance that it can only put up one rain dance and then you only have rain dance left on a sweeper (Beartic, who is amazing, I used him in Ubers) and he has no Damp Rock, so if Tornadus often falls, either play it really conservatory or add another rain dancer

Maybe on Tentacruel, then you would have a bulky rain dance setter, maybe in place of toxic or toxic spikes, as they do kinda the same
 
I've been seeing it a lot today, you have a huge Scizor weakness. Kabutops and Beartic are OHKO'd by standard CP Scizor, TTar takes around 80 percent not to mention not wanting to take a U-turn and Tornadus take up to 95 percent and is a guaranteed OHKO with rocks up. Slowbro also doesn't want to take a U-Turn or be cought by pursuit switching out. The only pokemon capable of handling Scizor is Tentacruel. Additionally your team is easily walled by Steal Types in general.

To fix this I would suggest adding Magnezone or Wobbuffet in place of TTar, both capable of trapping steal types (Wobbuffet can trap anything) and in the case of Magnezone KO most with a HP Fire and nothing wants to take STAB thunders in the rain. Wobbuffet traps and can K.O. with a counter/mirror count in addition to being able to encore those who wish to use hazards or boosting moves allowing you to flip the momentum and tide of the battle.
 
Thanks, TheArchangle, I love TTar, though and the team is based around him (OU Swift Swim/Rain-Tar Team). But I would love Wobbbuffet, since I always kill poeple with him in Random Matchup Singles. Magnezone would be great, too, but HP Fire is only a 140 BP move in rain against Scizor, so it would be better to just Thunder him, since Thunders base power is 180 from STAB, making it a better option than HP Fire. I'd rather use HP Ground for both opposing Magnezone/Elec. types and trapped Steels. As for Magnezone dealing with Ferrothorn, I would just switch out to one of my Superpowerers and attempt to 2-3HKO it. I am going to replace Kabutops and Slowbro, because Slowbro is a staller and we dont need a staller that much. I will also think of using HaxRachi for a death sentence to slower stall or set-up Pokes.
 
Ok, Ive made a desicion, and that would be these sets:

Wobbuffet @ Custap Berry(if available;if not , Sitrus Berry)
Sassy HP252 Def160 SpDef96 :IVs:
Ability Shadow Tag Spe 0
Moves:
Encore
Destiny Bond
Counter
Mirror Coat

and Magnezone:
Magnezone @ Focus Sash
Bold Def136 SpAtk180 SpDef192
Moves:
-HP Ground/HP Ice
-Thunder
-Rain Dance
-Flash Cannon
These will replace Slowbro and Kabutops, because of how good trappers they are.
I will also add Rain Dance onto Tentacruel.
 
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