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Stardust Dragon

Stardust Dragon

The Team at a Glance
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The Team in Depth​

I started putting together a team, the first serious competitive team I've had. I just need a little suggestions for any replacements or not. One major thing I already know is a Rock and Fire weakness. Every time I play my team is ripped apart by a Charizard Y or an Absol with Stone Edge. Please before rating remember to read the How To Rate Rules and don't just insult me, use constructive criticism.

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Galvantula @ Focus Sash
Ability: Compound Eyes
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP
- Sticky Web
- Bug Buzz
- Thunder
- Volt Switch

Galvantula is my lead. The EV spread is pretty straightforward with Speed and Special Attack. With a combination of great base Speed and Timid nature usually lets Galvantula move first, getting up Sticky Web, allowing Gyarados to sweep cleaner, and then Volt Switching out and coming back in later to build up some residual damage. Bug Buzz and Thunder are STAB. Thunder over Thunderbolt because of Compound Eyes which gives Thunder near perfect Accuracy.

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Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 Def / 244 SpD / 12 HP
- Spikes
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Wave
- Leech Seed

We all know what it is... Ferrothorn! Ferrothorn is my Hazard Setter and a Mixed Wall. With access to Thunder Wave, I can cripple many fast threatening attackers without priority such as Terrakion who could easily sweep my team before Ferrothorn. Leech Seed is the standard healing move and can heal my teammates as well.

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Gyarados @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 SpD / 184 HP / 72 Def
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Ice Fang
- Earthquake

This is sort of a standard Bulky Dragon Dance set... except I made it up. Oh Gyarados is awesome. The Intimidate works a lot better than moxie on this set because I have Dragon Dance. I focused completely on Defense because they won't get boosted by Dragon Dance unlike Attack and Speed. Waterfall and Bounce are both STAB, but Waterfall is my main move. Earthquake is coverage against those pesky Electric Types. This might sound odd, but my whole team is weak to Fire or resists Fire. Luckily Gyarados counters Fire. Gyarados also has some good synergy with Volcarona and Galvantula. It is immune to Ground, resists Fire, and resists Water. Gyarados is one of my must haves... unless he's crippled.

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Volcarona @ Leftovers
Ability: Flame Body
Nature: Timid
EVs: 184 Spe / 176 SpA / 92 HP / 56 Def
- Quiver Dance
- Roost
- Bug Buzz
- Fiery Dance

This Bug is a monster! After 1 or 2 Quiver dances I Roost.. Again.. Again.. SWEEP! The Defense EVs and Roost are what allow me to set up. They are also what allows me to take a neutral Priority move. Timid
nature to make sure I out speed. Volcarona has 2 great STABs in the form of Bug Buzz, which can sweep through Substitute, and Fiery Dance, which can further increase my Special Attack.

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Azumarill @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP
- Aqua Jet
- Waterfall
- Superpower
- Play Rough

What's better than Priority STAB, mixed with a 654 Attack stat. I don't know... Azumarill is a beast.
It's one of my late game sweepers cleaners. It has Priority STAB and a massive attack stat with the ability Huge Power. Waterfall is Primary STAB, Play Rough is secondary STAB, and Knock Off can easily cripple opponents that depend on there Leftovers for healing.

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Excadrill @ Air Balloon
Ability: Mold Breaker
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance

Excadrill my Rapid Spinner, which is needed for this team. With the speed EVs and nature I can usually get a Rapid Spin and an Attack, (The Focus Sash further ensures this). If the opponent is just that weak, I can set up Swords Dance and attempt a sweep. Earthquake is STAB and Rock Slide is for bugs.

That is it for my team. Thanks for rating... BYE!
 
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Random evs spreads, 3 mon weak against rock, and worst, against SR. First:

Scizor @ Leftovers
Ability: Technician
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk / 8 SDef / 248 HP
- Bullet Punch
- U-Turn
- Defog
- Roost

Roost with a choice band?
With volcarona u need a defogger, even with roost. Is easy for scizor defog with is high defense. U post power, but u gain less damage for all the team.

Use this evs spread for volc: 252 HP / 204 Def / 52 Spd Bold Nature, for real bulkyness. With so much priority u need def, or she is useless. Giga Drain for rotom/qua sire fan ben an idea over roost.


Whimiscott @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 SpD / 252 HP / 6 Def
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Toxic
- Encore

Without encore anyone can set in front of u and swipe your entire team. Encore gives a free switch, more usefull than cotton guard.


For a cleaner like azumarill, the def investment is useless


Azumarill @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 Def
- Aqua Jet
- Waterfall
- Knock Off /Superpower
- Play Rough

For dragons u have play rough, for landobros waterfall, why ice punch?

For gyarados: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD is the best spread for the defensive version. U can even try to invert def and sdef. But the first gives u a free DD. Another thing: or u replace the lum berry for leftovers, or u remove earthquake for substitute. Gyarados didn't like WoW and t- wave.
Earthquake is use for the mega version, because he can kill rotom. Try both versions.

Without changing mons this is the best i can do
 
Dalai_Drama said:
Random evs spreads, 3 mon weak against rock, and worst, against SR. First:

Scizor @ Leftovers
Ability: Technician
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk / 8 SDef / 248 HP
- Bullet Punch
- U-Turn
- Defog
- Roost

Roost with a choice band?
With volcarona u need a defogger, even with roost. Is easy for scizor defog with is high defense. U post power, but u gain less damage for all the team.

Use this evs spread for volc: 252 HP / 204 Def / 52 Spd Bold Nature, for real bulkyness. With so much priority u need def, or she is useless. Giga Drain for rotom/qua sire fan ben an idea over roost.


Whimiscott @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 SpD / 252 HP / 6 Def
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Toxic
- Encore

Without encore anyone can set in front of u and swipe your entire team. Encore gives a free switch, more usefull than cotton guard.


For a cleaner like azumarill, the def investment is useless


Azumarill @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 Def
- Aqua Jet
- Waterfall
- Knock Off /Superpower
- Play Rough

For dragons u have play rough, for landobros waterfall, why ice punch?

For gyarados: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD is the best spread for the defensive version. U can even try to invert def and sdef. But the first gives u a free DD. Another thing: or u replace the lum berry for leftovers, or u remove earthquake for substitute. Gyarados didn't like WoW and t- wave.
Earthquake is use for the mega version, because he can kill rotom. Try both versions.

Without changing mons this is the best i can do
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Ill probably change Scizor or Azumarill for a spinner which one?
 
Lol i totally forget about sticky web and defog. I am an idiot.

Excadrill over over scizor can be an option.

Azumarill @ Leftovers / Air Balloon
Ability: Mold Breaker
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Iron Head / Swords Dance

But in any case the team is slow. Is hard using 2 bugs in the same team. U cannot replace azumarill, u need a dragon immunity because dragons has the flying typing or levitate, so sticky web is useless. Whimiscot is not a wall.
 
Dalai_Drama said:
Lol i totally forget about sticky web and defog. I am an idiot.

Excadrill over over scizor can be an option.

Azumarill @ Leftovers / Air Balloon
Ability: Mold Breaker
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Iron Head / Swords Dance

But in any case the team is slow. Is hard using 2 bugs in the same team. U cannot replace azumarill, u need a dragon immunity because dragons has the flying typing or levitate, so sticky web is useless. Whimiscot is not a wall.
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You put Azumarill by accident. I'll make changes in Bold.
 
Hi Stardust Dragon! First of all i gotta say that i like those EV's to make things bulkier, althought I don't know why are you using those EV spreads... Could you tell what hits and from who they can take better (Scizor, Gyarados, Volcarona, Azumarill)? :)

Little bit about your team. As mentioned earlier your team does not have any way to deal with hazards.
And having Gyara, Volcarona and focus sash mon on the team which can't deal with hazards is not good idea imo.
I have couple of suggestions.
First I would suggest you to replace Whimisicott with Excadrill. Excadrill can spin away rocks and set up them, also it is immune to electric. And it can take care of Gyarados number1 counter, Rotom-W(thanks to Mold Breaker). I think it's important to stop opponent abusing VoltTurn, so Excadrill might be a good choice to your team.

Excadrill@Air Balloon/Leftovers
Ability:Mold Breaker
Nature: Jolly
Ev's: 252 Hp/ 252 Spd/ 4spdef
-Rapid spin
-Earthquake
-Iron Head/Rock Slide
-Stealth Rock
So this Excadrill can set up rocks and spin away. And it can be pretty threatening because of his high attack stat. With jolly nature and max investment in speed and attack you can outspeed every set of Rotom except choice scarf and take it out with Earthquake after Stealth Rock damage. That is a BIG help to your Gyarados. Iron Head is to hit fairies with super effective damage and it's strong STAB move. With Rock Slide you can hit incoming Flying types.

Other suggestion I have is to change Azumarill a bit.

Azumarill@ Choice Band
ability:Huge Power
Nature:Adamant
EV's: 252 Hp/ 252 Att/ 4 def
-Aqua Jet
-waterfall
-play rough
-focus punch

Other counter that Gyarados has is Ferrothorn. And Gyarados can't do nothing to him. And Ferro is pretty usual switch to Azum so using Focus Punch you can hit Ferro hard, actually Focus Punch OHKOes 252 Hp/252 Def relaxed natured Ferrothorn. You can also use Superpower instead of Fp. It does not need prediction like FP, but its not going to OHKO max.def Ferro and on the switch it is less powerfull

I agree with Dalai Drama that no Choise band set should carry roost.Use Superpower, Aerial Ace or Pursuit instead.
I don't have more time now, but i hope i gave some suggestions that you will like:) Bye! And Gl on your future battles!
 
Bluestripe aqua said:
Hi Stardust Dragon! First of all i gotta say that i like those EV's to make things bulkier, althought I don't know why are you using those EV spreads... Could you tell what hits and from who they can take better (Scizor, Gyarados, Volcarona, Azumarill)? :)

Little bit about your team. As mentioned earlier your team does not have any way to deal with hazards.
And having Gyara, Volcarona and focus sash mon on the team which can't deal with hazards is not good idea imo.
I have couple of suggestions.
First I would suggest you to replace Whimisicott with Excadrill. Excadrill can spin away rocks and set up them, also it is immune to electric. And it can take care of Gyarados number1 counter, Rotom-W(thanks to Mold Breaker). I think it's important to stop opponent abusing VoltTurn, so Excadrill might be a good choice to your team.

Excadrill@Air Balloon/Leftovers
Ability:Mold Breaker
Nature: Jolly
Ev's: 252 Hp/ 252 Spd/ 4spdef
-Rapid spin
-Earthquake
-Iron Head/Rock Slide
-Stealth Rock
So this Excadrill can set up rocks and spin away. And it can be pretty threatening because of his high attack stat. With jolly nature and max investment in speed and attack you can outspeed every set of Rotom except choice scarf and take it out with Earthquake after Stealth Rock damage. That is a BIG help to your Gyarados. Iron Head is to hit fairies with super effective damage and it's strong STAB move. With Rock Slide you can hit incoming Flying types.

Other suggestion I have is to change Azumarill a bit.

Azumarill@ Choice Band
ability:Huge Power
Nature:Adamant
EV's: 252 Hp/ 252 Att/ 4 def
-Aqua Jet
-waterfall
-play rough
-focus punch

Other counter that Gyarados has is Ferrothorn. And Gyarados can't do nothing to him. And Ferro is pretty usual switch to Azum so using Focus Punch you can hit Ferro hard, actually Focus Punch OHKOes 252 Hp/252 Def relaxed natured Ferrothorn. You can also use Superpower instead of Fp. It does not need prediction like FP, but its not going to OHKO max.def Ferro and on the switch it is less powerfull

I agree with Dalai Drama that no Choise band set should carry roost.Use Superpower, Aerial Ace or Pursuit instead.
I don't have more time now, but i hope i gave some suggestions that you will like:) Bye! And Gl on your future battles!
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Good idea for both. Thanks.
 
Bluestripe aqua said:
Hi Stardust Dragon! First of all i gotta say that i like those EV's to make things bulkier, althought I don't know why are you using those EV spreads... Could you tell what hits and from who they can take better (Scizor, Gyarados, Volcarona, Azumarill)? :)

Little bit about your team. As mentioned earlier your team does not have any way to deal with hazards.
And having Gyara, Volcarona and focus sash mon on the team which can't deal with hazards is not good idea imo.
I have couple of suggestions.
First I would suggest you to replace Whimisicott with Excadrill. Excadrill can spin away rocks and set up them, also it is immune to electric. And it can take care of Gyarados number1 counter, Rotom-W(thanks to Mold Breaker). I think it's important to stop opponent abusing VoltTurn, so Excadrill might be a good choice to your team.

Excadrill@Air Balloon/Leftovers
Ability:Mold Breaker
Nature: Jolly
Ev's: 252 Hp/ 252 Spd/ 4spdef
-Rapid spin
-Earthquake
-Iron Head/Rock Slide
-Stealth Rock
So this Excadrill can set up rocks and spin away. And it can be pretty threatening because of his high attack stat. With jolly nature and max investment in speed and attack you can outspeed every set of Rotom except choice scarf and take it out with Earthquake after Stealth Rock damage. That is a BIG help to your Gyarados. Iron Head is to hit fairies with super effective damage and it's strong STAB move. With Rock Slide you can hit incoming Flying types.

Other suggestion I have is to change Azumarill a bit.

Azumarill@ Choice Band
ability:Huge Power
Nature:Adamant
EV's: 252 Hp/ 252 Att/ 4 def
-Aqua Jet
-waterfall
-play rough
-focus punch

Other counter that Gyarados has is Ferrothorn. And Gyarados can't do nothing to him. And Ferro is pretty usual switch to Azum so using Focus Punch you can hit Ferro hard, actually Focus Punch OHKOes 252 Hp/252 Def relaxed natured Ferrothorn. You can also use Superpower instead of Fp. It does not need prediction like FP, but its not going to OHKO max.def Ferro and on the switch it is less powerfull

I agree with Dalai Drama that no Choise band set should carry roost.Use Superpower, Aerial Ace or Pursuit instead.
I don't have more time now, but i hope i gave some suggestions that you will like:) Bye! And Gl on your future battles!
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The EV spreads are for my pleasure. They even out the stats if you look at there exact numbers on say Pokemon Online.
 
Hey there, Nice Team!
*Cracks Knuckles* ~Let's get in to the rate,

Firstly, I see that you don't have a mega, so I would suggest Making Gyarados your Mega. The Ev spreads a little weird for mega Gyrados, so I would suggest using the evs down below. Mega Gyarados is already extremely bulky, so it's better to invest in attack and speed. Stone edge and Ice fang provide coverage, although, substitute or taunt. Can be used to set up dragon dances easier.
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Gyarados @ Gyaradosite
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge / Ice Fang / Substitute / Taunt
- Earthquake
Next, I would Suggest a different item on Excadrill. Yes, focus sash can be helpfull, but your going to be switching into hazards to rapid spin, Right? Makes it kind of useless. I would suggest either an air ballon or choice scarf. Air ballon allows you to avoid sticky web and spikes, so you can rapid spin easier, and choice scard turns excadrill into both a revenge killer and fast hazard remover.
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Excadrill @ Air Balloon / Choice Scarf
Ability: Mold Breaker
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance / Rock Slide
Lastly, I know you like Whimsicott and All, but other than subseed, it doesn't really support the team. Your team also lacks hazard support, so with all considered, I would suggest Replacing Whimsicott with Ferrothorn. Ferrothorn still completes your FWG core, and can support the team with Steath rock and leech seed. The sets standard, used As a physical wall, Hazard Support etc, etc.
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Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 208 Def / 48 SDef
Relaxed nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Stealth Rock
- Leech Seed
- Power Whip / Protect
- Gyro Ball / Thunder Wave
Hope this helped!
Good day to you sir~
 
Galvantula / Whimsiott / Gyarados / Volcarona / Azumarill / Excadrill

Hello Stardust Dragon and welcome too smogon ! When looking at your team I can clearly see that Gyarados is the win condition off this team, i'm sorry to say but Volcarona (My favourite mon if anyone cares) is just not fitting the OU meta just because off bird spam. I can also see your team beeing worn down pretty easely by strong attackers like Thundurus, Zard-Y, Aegislash, hp grass Greninja, Deo-S and more. Also strong Swords Dance users like Mega-Pinsir and Bisharp is not making it easier, so therefore i'm here too help.

First off since we are now using Gyarados as your win condition, which means this is the pokemon we are building around so you can sweep late game, do note this is Mega-Gyarados as it's inferior too standard Gyarados on the DD set. So first off I changed the ev spread (It's in the set spoiler) as yours really didn't benefit anything, also I changed Bounce for Ice Fang which makes Dragons like Lati@s, Dragonite and Garchomp much easier too handle. Also when going Mega you can handle Levitaters, Waterabsorbers etc. With your new ability Mold Breaker, this make your time against pokemon especially Rotom-W much easier.

So now that we have finished Gyarados and have a goal in mind, I found out that two off your pokemon really didn't fit the bill, namely Volcarona and Galavantula. They are weakening the team alot, as they both are really weak when rocks are up which puts way too much pressure on Exadrill. Therefore I changed them for Tyranitar & Latios which basically helps you both against strong speciall attackers, but also helps you removing two really annoying pokemon for Gyarados, namely Ferrothorn and Mega-Venusaur. Lets start off with Tyranitar, his job is too set up Stealth Rock for your team which you didn't have and is pretty much crucial in competitive play, but it also sponges strong speciall attacker and with Fire Blast you can roast any Ferrothorn that want's too come in on you. I gave it Smooth Rock so sand lasts 8 turns which will help Excadrill which I will come back too later in the post. Latios on the other hand helps you out on the speciall attacking side while also beeing able too beat Mega-Venusaur, I also put Surf in it's moveset so it isn't straight up pursuit bait for stuff like Bisharp (Surf ko's after rocks) and also has a nifty niche in 2hko'ing Mega-Scizor and Heatran, the last thing with this Latios is Roost, yes no Defog on him which basically means it has more longevity in Sand, and Exca has Rapid Spin anyway.

So now all the mons are in their places and there is only some moveset changes I made in the end on Excadrill, Azumarill and Whimiscott. Since you now run sand + smooth rock we can forgo the Choice Scarf on Excadrill and give it Sand Rush, this works great in conjunction with Gyarados as it can just come in on predicted Thunder Waves from Thundurus and ko it with Rock Slide. I also gave it Life Orb so it can hit as hard as possible and possibly help Gyarados clean in the late game or wallbreak for Gyarados mid-game. Choice Banded Azumarill is a great set, but I saw that Greninja can really dent this team, therefore I changed it for
Assault Vest as this will help you against Greninja, but will also take some off the weight off Tyranitars shoulders as a speciall wall. Azumarill also hits incredibly hard without Choice Band anyway and also appreciates beeing able too switch bewteen moves. I also changed Superpower for Knock Off as this works great with sand and removes an item as well. Whimiscott was the last pokemon I changed the moveset on, and is basically very simple max satk + speed with timid nature to be as strong and fast as possible, 2hko's Conkeldurr and Latias with Moonblast. Also changed Toxic and Cotton Spore for Encore & Moonblast, as those moves will help you against setup sweepers and also lets Whimsicott do some damage.
I hope this rate helped and good luck with future teambuilding ! :]

Final Product: Tyranitar / Whimsicott / M-Gyarados / Azumarill / Excadrill / Latios

Tyranitar @ Smooth Rock
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 SAtk
Sassy Nature
- Crunch
- Stone Edge
- Fire Blast
- Stealth Rock

Whimsicott @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 Def
Timid Nature
- Moonblast
- Encore
- Leech Seed
- Substitute

Gyarados @ Gyaradosite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 192 Atk / 88 HP / 224 Spd / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang

Azumarill @ Assault Vest
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 16 HP / 252 Atk / 240 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Waterfall
- Knock Off
- Aqua Jet

Excadrill @ Life Orb
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Rock Slide
- Rapid Spin

Latios (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Surf
- Roost
 
Thanks for all the support guys but I hate M-Gyarados. I am not replacing Volcarona either. If you guys used the team, you would see what they do like that. I've swept teams of six multiple teams with each Non-M Gyarados and Volcarona.
 
Thank you Dirty Bum, that Ferrothorn really helped. If it wasnt for its T-Wave I would've lost my most recent battle. Excadrill is really helping too.
 
Remember I just made these changes too help improve the the team, competetive battling is not about using the mons that you like best because then you will lose. Fine I understand that you might not like M-Gyarados and won't replace Volcarona, but then theres not much more I can do without make huge changes on your team. I will suggest that you at least try out these changes, because I used nearly two hours looking through your team and writing that post and would at least appreciate that you try it. Remember i'm here too help you become better at teambuilding and understand why I made these changes, so don't just turn them down.
 
Stardust Dragon said:
First game with Latios.. I just got a sweep with it. Their whole team.
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Remember, this was probaly luck. Test it out a bit more before deciding. (I'm not saying latios is bad in anyway, I'm just saying to test more.) Also, there's absolutely no reason not to use mega Gyarados's. It's more powerful, bulky, and has better coverage. All Gyarados's has is access to lefties. Ferrothorn should use Power Whip / Leech Seed > Giga Drain, as ferrothorns special attack is pathetic, but it's phyical attack stat is decent. Leech seed is a more reliable recovery option on Ferro, and it can also Heal is teammates.
 
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Dalai_Drama said:
Random evs spreads, 3 mon weak against rock, and worst, against SR. First:

Scizor @ Leftovers
Ability: Technician
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk / 8 SDef / 248 HP
- Bullet Punch
- U-Turn
- Defog
- Roost

Roost with a choice band?
With volcarona u need a defogger, even with roost. Is easy for scizor defog with is high defense. U post power, but u gain less damage for all the team.

Use this evs spread for volc: 252 HP / 204 Def / 52 Spd Bold Nature, for real bulkyness. With so much priority u need def, or she is useless. Giga Drain for rotom/qua sire fan ben an idea over roost.


Whimiscott @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 SpD / 252 HP / 6 Def
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Toxic
- Encore

Without encore anyone can set in front of u and swipe your entire team. Encore gives a free switch, more usefull than cotton guard.


For a cleaner like azumarill, the def investment is useless


Azumarill @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 Def
- Aqua Jet
- Waterfall
- Knock Off /Superpower
- Play Rough

For dragons u have play rough, for landobros waterfall, why ice punch?

For gyarados: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD is the best spread for the defensive version. U can even try to invert def and sdef. But the first gives u a free DD. Another thing: or u replace the lum berry for leftovers, or u remove earthquake for substitute. Gyarados didn't like WoW and t- wave.
Earthquake is use for the mega version, because he can kill rotom. Try both versions.

Without changing mons this is the best i can do
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Ice Punch covers grass types.
 
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