OU team...please give me some suggestions

peadawg14

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Roserade @ Focus Sash
Natural Cure
Timid
4 hp / 252 special attack / 252 speed
HP fire
Sleep Powder
Toxic Spikes
Energy Ball

I think I like this lead better than Ambipom. Roserade sets up toxic spikes and keep swampert/other grounds in check. She's great for Breloom if he doesn't have a scarf b/c I can put him to sleep before he does it to me. Roserade and Slowbrow cover each other's weaknesses very well with Roserade having a little special defense and Slowbrow having some defense.


Slowbrow @ leftovers
Bold
Own Tempo
252 Hp / 252 def
Slack off
Calmind
Psychic
Surf

This is my defenseive wall. Slowbro is one of the physically bulkiest Water-types in the games and has many good resistances. Slowbrow helps counter nape/machamp/lucario...he takes Dynamic Punch like a maCHAMP! lol! If a grass pokemon coms in, I can switch to Roserade or Infernape. Slowbrow is a better defensive wall than Swampert IMO except for not having stealth rock. Slowbrow takes fighting moves A LOT better than Swampert.


Blissey @ leftovers
Natural Cure
Bold
252 hp / 252 def / 4 spe Def
Aeromtherapy
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Toxic

This is the best special wall in the game hands down! She provides my team with excellent support w/ Aeromatherapy and Toxic for Zapdos and flyers that switch into me since Toxic Spikes won't get them. She helps out greatly against Vappy, Suicune and others that attempt to stall my team. The only trouble I have is w/ Gengar.


Scizor @ choice band/Life Orb(so I don't get stuck on one move if a magnezone comes in)
Adament
252 hp / 252 attack
Pursuit
U-turn
Superpower
Bullet Punch

Self-explanatory...this is the best revenge killer/physical attacker in the game. I absolutely love pursuit. This move has killed me many many Scarf Latias. U-Turn is also very useful for scouting once an opponent switches.

MixNape @ life orb
Naive
252 speed/200 special attack/52 attack
Close Combat
Grass Knot
HP Ice
Flaemthrower

This guy's a great wallbreaker. He as EXCELLENT overage and hits every single pokemon for atleast neutral damage. He keeps Blissey/T-Tar/Snorlax in check. He's gets fellow dragons out of the way before they dragon dance. He also gets rid of Swampert if Roserade is gone. Vappy is a problem since Grass Knot won't even 2HKO. He tends to lure out Zapdos and other flyers so I could use some stealth rock support...


Salamence @ leftovers
Naive
200 hp / 180 def / 52 spe att / 78 speed
Flamethrower (I don't like the drop in accuracy)
DD
Dragon Claw
Earthquake

This guy is my late game sweeper. He's also a good check for lucario and other fighters/physical sweepers...coming in and intimidating them and making them swith. Flamethrower is to deal w/ Steels since I'm not using a magnezone.



This team is used to get Salamence a chance to sweep. I think I have pretty good team synergy. This team has done very well, but I do have a weakness to Gyarados. I could really use Stealth Rock (because of all the switching my team causes) to go along w/ spikes and Magnezone(to deal w/ steals) but I can't figure out who to switch. I love Slowbro for a fighting check but a Vappy w/ surf/ice beam/hp eletric/wish would be really good for my team i believe to keep Gyarados and Infernape in check. Any suggestions are appreciated.
 
All day and no suggestions? I'd appreciate some critique. I've done pretty well w/ this team but I'm looking for a stealth rocker w/out losing my great coverage.
 
Alright. Here are some suggestions: ^^/

1. Why the Speed EVs on Blissey? I mean, it's slow as hell anyway. I'd invest those extra EVs in SpDef.

2. Sweepers generally run Atk or SpAtk EVs... your Mence doesn't. At all. It's a very different spread and I'd have to say I don't like it as a sweeper role.

Yeah. Not bad overall, though.
 
The spD is special defense on Blissey, sorry for the bad abbreviation.

That's a different Salamence spread that I saw somewhere on Smogon. He has 306 attack w/ nothing invested if I remember correctly which isn't too bad. I come in on a physical pokemon, intimidate and take the hit(which isn't much w/ the ev spread) and as they switch I DD and sweep away.
 
Like you said, your team would benefit from Stealth Rock support, and you would be better off using a SR lead insted of Spikes. I reccomend Aerodactyl personally, but other good options would be Azelf, Swampert, and Jirachi.

Aerodactyl @ Focus Sash
Pressure
Jolly
252ATK/252SPE/4HP
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

You can opt for Rock Slide if you dislike the drop in accuracy. With proper prediction, you can beat out many other leads. The usual order you go with this is Taunt, Stealth Rock, Attack if still alive, but I like to throw the opponent off by SRing or Attacking first, then Taunting them as they take that as a free turn to set up.

I can tell you really like Slowbro, but if you had to take any member of your team out for Magnezone, I'd reccomend you take him out. Magnezone is a very helpful partner to Salamence, killing just about everything that Salamence can't, which is mostly just Steel Types. If you feel comfortable with Steels (which I think Infernape has the power to take care of a few of them on its own), then keep the Slowbro.

Now onto the Salamence itself. I personally prefer to see a Salamence with Outrage instead of Dragon Claw, the reason being is that the power drop is much more significant then a lot of people think. In a late game sweep the Steel types should be eliminated already, so you won't have to worry about being locked into a bad move. However, using this earlier on could spell doom if that pesky Skarmory or Forretress comes in to ruin your fun. That's when Fire Blast becomes a good option over Roost.

I hope this helps. Good Luck!
 
Thanks for your input Luca. I may switch roserade for jirachi or uxie and use a choice scarf/trick lead w/ stealth rock. ya slowbro has quickly become a favorite of mine against those annoying dynamic punches and CC's. I may change Salamence to Naive and use Fire Blast/Flamethrower(since I hate using moves that have lower accuracy). I have a SubZone w/ sub/magnet rise/hp grass/t-bolt sitting in my box...I just can't find a spot for him.

Any more suggestions on who to switch out w/out losing coverage?
 
I would personally use a standard DD-mence as your late game sweeper. As other raters have pointed out, your Salamence right now will simply not have the power or the speed to cause a lot of damage.

Heres a good set:

Salamence @ Life Orb
232 Atk / 24 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
~ Dragon Dance
~ Outrage
~ Earthquake
~ Fire Blast

After a dragon dance or two almost nothing will be able to stop this Dragonite from the midgame on. The EVs are for Fire Blast, while the rest are for the physical moves.
 
Seems fine, although you should move those HP EVs on Blissey on to Special Defense. She really doesn't need any help for HP. Also, change Outrage on your Salamence to Dragon Claw, as the confusion could kill himself with plus 3 attack, something which you would not want to do. Just a sidenote here, but please try to work on spelling and grammar, as it can make it harder for people to understand what you want to say.

Good luck
 
Alright, I've gone 15-4 w/ this team now which is very good. The 4 loses were to those who had a Gyarados...Should I switch out a team member for a Scarfed Latias or a Vappy w/ Wish/Surf/Icebeam/HP Electric?

My Slowbro has done wonders against fighters so I'm very reluctant to switch that thing out. I just find someone to switch w/out losing coverage..it sux :)
 
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