Overburdened

[Mac_]

~OVERBURDENED~​

Hello Smogon, im bringing you what i believe its my best ubers team for X/Y. It took me i while to get into the new meta of ubers in this gen, so i pretty much put everything i studied about the metagame in this team, which is pretty standard. Honestly, this team did not peak any impressive ranking on the ladder, mainly because i dont have much fun playing it anymore, and the ubers ladder is REALLY bad to be honest, so i tough the best thing i can do is to share it. Since i didnt got any cool names, i just grabbed a good song from a band that i really love, like pretty much everyone does. :]​

Basically i wanted to make something around SD mega scizor, which is amazing in this meta, cheking Xerneas and even a lot of other stuff

Then i decided to add something that i was really used: Scarf Zekrom, possibly the best dragon in this gen

I needed rocks, and i have noticed a lot of people in the SPL using lando-t, so why not? It provides me a useful electric ummunity and intimidade, and its also a great pivot

Since i wanted to use earth plate lando i didnt had a real bulk, so i decided to use specially defensive Kyogre, as well a physically defensive Xerneas, which i find to to well against my weaknesess

At this point i was REALLY weak to Kyogre, so i decided to bring back the Arceus-Grass, which i use since BW, and it also provides me the well-needed defog as well a nice will-o, so its pretty much perfect

In dept:

Xerneas @ Leftovers
Ability: Fairy Aura
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature
- Moonblast
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Aromatherapy

Well, what can i say? The geomancy set here, but the defensive Xerneas is still a threat, the first time i saw it i found it pretty dumb, since the power herb set was (and still is) destroying the metagame. Moonblast is the main and obligatory attack, KOing stuff without any investiment. Aromatherapy is also amazing, getting any annoying burn on Scizor, Lando or Zekrom.

Arceus @ Meadow Plate
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 112 Spd / 148 Def / 248 HP
Timid Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Grass Knot
- Defog
- Recover

I really love Grassceus, even tough it doesnt like eating specs ice beams, it still checks Kyogre really well. This is the same spread that Edgar used on this Tank Weezing RMT so i decided just to steal it (:]).
I outspeed petty much everything i need to (Stuff like Palkia and etc) and i dont feel like having another attack, i didnt want Stone Edge on it since Will-o is really useful, specially against Mega Kanga, which is a huge threat to my team. I used Judgment over Grass Knot in BW since Mananphy was acctually a thing, but now everything is just so heavy. Recover for that nice health, and defog to get rid of any hazard

Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 248 HP / 16 Def / 244 SDef
Calm Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Scald
- Roar

When i didnt used a choiced Kyogre, i have ALWAYS used the physically defensive set, so now i decided to try on the Sp. defensive one, and i was not decepcioned. Even with the rain nerf Kyogre is still amazing, burning stuff with Scald and phazing a lot of stuff, also eating up so many hits. Its impressive how this can take a +2 Moonblast from Xerneas and phaze it out, even tough i do that in critical situations.

Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Light Metal
EVs: 16 Atk / 252 HP / 240 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Roost
- Knock Off
- Swords Dance

The base pokemon of this team. I didnt know how well SD Mega-scizor could work in this meta, and well, its just amazing. This thing can easily break stall cores, and set up on so many things (Lugia, Chansey, etc). Its also my best awnser for Xerneas, which i can easily 2HKO whitouth even a SD. Roost make mega-scizor much more durable, and Knock Off is one of the best moves in this gen, making me took out useful leftovers against sutff like Giratina and etc.

Landorus-Therian (M) @ Earth Plate
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge

Landorus-T is amazing at ubers, the electic immunity always come in handy, forcing to play around choiced Zekrom along with Xerneas. I was using the defensive one, but i wanted to try out the earth plate variant, and i loved it. This thing outspeeds so many stuff that people doesnt expect, as long easily OHKOing stuff like Dialga. Stone Edge provides me the well needed Ho-oh check, also hitting stuff like Rayquaza, which is KO'd after rocks, or any residual damage, and U-turn gives me a nice scout and momentum.

Zekrom @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Volt Switch
- Bolt Strike
- Outrage
- Dragon Claw

Ahhh Zekrom, one of the best dragons in this meta. Its so easy to win with this only by spamming Bolt Strikes. The scarf set helps me to deal with so many stuff that i usually wont outspeed, like Darkrai, Palkia, etc. I only run double stab because that's all i really need. Bolt strike is my main move, 2HKOing a lot of variants of Xerneas, and Outrage finishes stuff that Bolt Strike can't. Volt Switch doesnt really hurt stuff, but gives me a lot of momentum and helps me to break annoying Darkrai sashes, since i have 2 possibly sleep foders. Dragon Claw is just a secondary STAB, used when i dont want to lock myself into outrage, i had Draco Meteor before instead, which is useful to hit Gliscors and Groudons, but at the moment, Dragon Claw ended up being my best option.


Threath List:

Ho-oh is really difficult to play around, Zekrom and Landorus can easily check it, but they dont apreciate Sacred Fire burns, and if it has a Groudon core (which is pretty common) its get even more harder do deal with

Extreme Killer, Ghost Ceus and Rock Ceus to be more specific, each one requires A LOT of playing around, if i dont get sweeped by it

This thing is a complete monster, the best thing i can do is to burn it with Arceus, but until that happens my team gets severaly weakned.

Any well-played variant of Mewtwo can destroy me, nothing really switches safely into it, again, requires a lot of playing around.



Conclusion:

So, that's it, even with its flaws this team still have potencial. Even tough i dont plan to use it too serious anymore, any rate will be appreciate, i hope you all enjoyed :]


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Importable

Xerneas @ Leftovers
Ability: Fairy Aura
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature
- Moonblast
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Aromatherapy

Arceus @ Meadow Plate
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 112 Spd / 148 Def / 248 HP
Timid Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Grass Knot
- Defog
- Recover

Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 248 HP / 16 Def / 244 SDef
Calm Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Scald
- Roar

Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Light Metal
EVs: 16 Atk / 252 HP / 240 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Roost
- Knock Off
- Swords Dance

Landorus-Therian (M) @ Earth Plate
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- U-turn

Zekrom @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Volt Switch
- Bolt Strike
- Outrage
- Dragon Claw

 

[orch]

Gengar should be number one on your threat list. It destroys xern and grassceus without giving you a second thought. Change your scizor to SpD set with pursuit. I also dislike spd kyogre on this team, it's very redundant with xern and grassceus on your team. I'd change it to specsogre to deal with stall. Also, Draco Meteor is almost always better than dclaw on zekrom, so change that. Even with these changes, you still have a boring and generic xy ubers team. Well done I guess.

 

[haxiom]

Hey Mac_,

Nice team. You've got the threatlist down pretty well. You are extremely Ho-Oh weak, since it gets free switches on half of the team, and nothing switches in safely without risking a burn. This can be extremely overburdening (lol, I just really wanted to say that), especially since Ho-Oh is has such amazing staying power. You also lack toxic so you can't put pressure on defog Arceus to keep up rocks easily. Ekiller is a threat, so is Kangaskhan, so is Mewtwo. Pretty much exactly what you said. One other threat to this team is CM Arceus, especially Electriceus but others are still dangerous too, since you have no toxic to pressure it once again. Gengar is probably the greatest threat, since it screws up Grassceus and Xerneas, mandating a pursuit trapper (ugh ninja'd by Orch). SD Blaziken is annoying. I'd also say that stall in general is really hard for this team to break, since it lacks any sort of quick way to break down stall.

So, about fixing this stuff. One thing I would suggest is physically defensive Lando-T, since this will help against Ho-Oh a little bit. You still hate burns, but it at least lets you take its hits better. It also helps against Blaziken and Ekiller a little bit. It also has/can have toxic to pressure defog and CM Arceus, although Electriceus tends to carry ice beam.

Landorus-Therian @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Toxic

As for Gengar, that can easily be solved by throwing Pursuit > Knock Off on Scizor. While Knock Off is your only hope versus stall, you'd rather not be screwed over by Gengar on a team that is very weak to it. These changes will help you significantly; hopefully I'm not changing too many things here. As for stallbreaking, running SpecsOgre might be okay, it makes you weak to HP Fire Xern but in the rain that helps. I don't know, you'll have to weight that. Xerneas+Zekrom should fare well enough against Yveltal. Try it out (ugh dang it ninja'd again).

Okay so orch posted at this point after I wrote all that making me look like I'm just restating all his points :\

OPTIMIZATION:

Xerneas- fine, 248 HP is good for rocks though

Grassceus- 96+ Spd should be enough of a creep, I don't know why physical bulk is necessary but it depends on how you weigh Ekiller+Kanga versus having a more solid switch into Kyogre

Kyogre- Specs

Scizor- yeah, tbh SD isn't a good fit as Orch said, it's not a good stallbreaker and it's coverage is awful. It's passable, but SDef is better. You could even throw Defog on this guy and run SE on Grassceus, so you can lure and smash Ho-Oh, which is nice.

Lando-T- Physically defensive w/ Toxic > U-turn, I mean earth plate might still work but definitely run toxic

Zekrom- DM > Dragon claw, or Sleep Talk if you run SpecsOgre.


Good luck!

 

[orch]

Hey Mac_,
Zekrom- DM > Dragon claw, or Sleep Talk if you run SpecsOgre.

It'll be almost always preferable to switch xern into darkrai. There's no reason to run sleep talk on Zekrom.

 

[haxiom]

It'll be almost always preferable to switch xern into darkrai. There's no reason to run sleep talk on Zekrom.

Yep, you're right. I didn't see Xerneas :\

 

[Mac_]

Thanks for the rates, i only did not have sleep talk on Zekrom because Xerneas of course. I really like the idea of Specsogre as well pursuit trapping Scizor, as long with Stone edge Arceus. I will definely try that out. Like i said, i did have Draco on Zekrom before, but i got frustraded by opponents who let Kyogre on it, when having things like a Gliscor in the bag (fuck low ladder). But then again, i personally love using the Earth Plate lando, but like you said. Toxic will REALLY help he against Extremekillers, i will definelly try all those changes, thanks again

 

[Hack]

First off, don't bother with threatlists unless you actually know what you are weak to. Ho-oh isn't a big issue- a bold Xerneas can even take LO hits, Kyogre/Zekrom/Lando-T put up good pressure on it and knock off on Scizor can hamper its firepower. You can't be serious about Kanga being such a big threat either, between intimidate, a mega scizor with roost, defensive xerneas and a wow support arceus you should handle this mon very easily. Extremekiller is in the same boat- you got a very bulky xern to take an unboosted hit and do damage back, Lando-T can intimitade and Grassceus can burn. A full HP scarf Zekrom lives a +2 espeed too. All teams are more or less ekiller weak unless you run really dedicated checks (but those can be pushed through), but this is far from the worst example of an ekiller weak team. When it comes to Mewtwo, you are also dead wrong about them being that big of a threat. Well, to an extent MMY is a threat to any team but it should be obvious why MMX is just shat on (hint Xerneas). MMY can still be handled by rain sdef scizor and a scarfer. So yeah don't bother trying to look knowledgable if you cant determine what your team has problems with- ask for help with that instead.

As far as a rate goes- this team is so Gengar weak, it's not even funny. It will effortlessly remove Grassceus and Xerneas and then maybe Destiny Bond on something if it's lucky. You absolutely need to chance Scizor to a set consisting of Bullet Punch/Pursuit/Toxic/Roost. This will also limit Ho-oh's ability to damage your core, as now Xerneas can toxic stall it. Run defensive Lando-T too, it's a million times better on stall teams like this (it is better on almost any team tbf). You can run Toxic on it to somewhat help with Ekiller. Knock Off is a viable option to help keeping some kind of pressure on your opponent. Other than that you can use a specs Kyogre to help break stall but it's up to you. GL

 

[haxiom]

Ugh hack you're contradicting me and you're probably right because you're a much better player than I am.
Nevertheless, I will say that there is a general lack lack of Ho-Oh switch-ins, but yeah I see what you're saying. Also,

252+ Atk Life Orb Ho-Oh Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Xerneas: 208-247 (45.6 - 54.1%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

Xern is 2HKO'd, but I might be missing something obv so correct me if I'm wrong