Passing the Baton

Hello to all you team raters out there! This is my main team that I use, my baton pass team. I would post pictures, but am new to smogon and am not quite sure how to. Either way the main purpose of this team is to get a bunch of boosts to my sweeper and then proceed to sweep the entire opponents team. It works fairly well but there are a few dents that need to be hammered out. I might post a team preview, but it wont have pictures because, as I said I'm new to smogon. So without further ado, here's my team.

Changes in bold.


Team preview: Ninjask, Vaporeon, Smeargle, Espeon, Masquerain, Lucario





Ninjask@Leftovers
Trait:Speed Boost
EVs: 252 HP, 200 Spd, 52 Atk
Baton Pass
Protect
Substitute
X-Scissor

Ninjask is the sole reason the rest of my team doesn't have speed EVs. He is my lead in every battle. On a typical day he'll protect, sub, protect, sub etc. until I have my speed at ridiculous proportions. Now I'll explain the EVs. He has 252 in HP so he can take a hit or two. The 200 in Speed allows him to outspeed pretty much every opponent I face. And the 52 in attack is so that his mono-attack, X-Scissor, doesn't do little to no damage. Baton Pass is standard since this is a Baton Pass team. This is pretty much just the standard Ninjask moveset. I don't think there's anything left to tell, so on to the next team member. He has no problems.





Vaporeon@Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 248 HP, 132 Def, 128 Sp. Def
Baton Pass
Acid Armor
Roar
Wish


This set was suggested by crackinskulls. I replaced gorebyss with vaporeon simply because gorebyss wasn't helping very much. She was slowing down the chain and dies to such common moves as thunder. So far I'm happy with the replacement. She passes boosts and wishes, as well as phazing out threats. I absolutely love this set, as well as the later on vaporeon set. As for what I do with vaporeon I'll usually just acid armor a few times and then wish. After I wish I'll Baton Pass.







Smeargle@Focus Sash
Trait: Technician
EVs: 252 HP, 126 Sp. Def, 126 Def.
Baton Pass
Minimize
Work Up

Spore

Smeargle is probably my favorite of my baton passers. I'll spore, turning the opponent into setup fodder, and then boost. He typically manages to get a few boosts in before I have to Baton Pass. His EVs are, once again, HP to take a hit, Sp. Def and Def to increase his chances of not taking to much damage. He is the only person who's item I have a problem with. He usually doesn't even end up using up his focus sash. I'm considering changing it, but I'm not sure what to change it to. His moves are pretty much the only ones he would need considering I have a pokemon for both Quiver Dance and Shell Smash. My problem with him is that he can't take more than one hit. This is a problem because it breaks my chain if he dies. He by far needs the most help.I replaced Cotton Guard and Shift Gear with Work Up and Double team respectively. Work Up because lucario is a mixed sweeper, and double team because after a few nothing can even hit me.I swapped double team for minimize because I was told by AfroThunderRule that it raises evasion by two stages as opposed to two stages.




Espeon@Leftovers
Trait:Magic Bounce
EVs: 252 HP, 4 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd
Baton Pass
Calm Mind
Stored Power
Morning Sun



This set was suggested by Lohgock and Crackin Skulls. They reccomended espeon over Mr. Mime for magic bouncing away roar and whirlwind. Everything is the same other than I got rid of mean look and psychic. I'll run stored power because of all the boosts to its power. As well as Morning Sun for healing. So far I've done a few battles with it and it looks great.




Masquerain@Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Special Atk.
Baton Pass
Quiver Dance
Roost
Bug Buzz

Its no joke to say Masquerain rocks. She Quiver Dances a ridiculous amount, and then roosts whenever she runs low on HP. She's a mono-attacker with Bug Buzz. As for the EVs, HP once again for taking hits, and Sp. Atk for Bug Buzz. She doesn't have too many problems, but does die 1 in 7 battles. This isn't a problem for me because it means I still win the majority of my battle with people. After I boost I Baton Pass to my Sweeper, Lucario.If anybody has a replacement for masquerain it would be greatly appreciated.




Lucario@Life Orb
Trait:Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Sp. Atk
Crunch
ExtremeSpeed
Psychic
Aura Sphere

Lucario has no problems. At all. Period. After all the boosts I can demolish any and all pokemon. And I'm not bragging either. I can seriously lay the hurt on my opponents. I'll usually use aura sphere for the STAB but I'll use other moves depending on the situation. I've sweeped haxorus's and reshiram's with this guy.(Yes I am aware they are ubers but I meant when fighting with friends.) So this guy dominates the field and wins me battles. He has the obvious EV spread for mixed atteckers. I tend to win almost every battle that my chain doesn't get broken and I make it to this guy.I swapped HP flying for psychic, because of the extra coverage it provides as well as a higher base power.








Well that's the end of my team. If you have suggestions to make it better then that would be much appreciated. I'll check on this team regularly so I will likely see everything posted and see all suggestions. Thank you for reading and rating my team. I'm not sure how I'm supposed to end this post so I guess I'll just give it my best shot. Thank you for your time and I hope you liked the team.
 
Since your lagging something to stop the opponent from just whirlwinding/roaring your boosts away or stop your boosters setting up by using taunt I would suggest running an Espeon over your current Mr.Mime. Espeon easily stops any Pokemon using Whirlwind, Roar or Taunt with its Magic Guard ability beside Prankster Taunt. You can run the same moves bar Mean Lock, but I dont think thats too important for a BP-Team.
 
hi there i dont have a great deal of experience with baton pass team but i still think i can help you out.

1. Your gorebyss smashpasser is not really for a baton pass chain. Its more to just use and pass off to a Salamence etc. IMO it should be the first thing to go.

2. Decide whether you want a SmashPassing team or a Baton Pass chain

3. Mr Mime has to go for Espeon because it can do exactly the same thing and has access to Magic Bounce which will be incredibly useful against Phazers and people trying to set up Entry Hazards.

4. It seems to me that Masquerain is completely outclassed by Venemoth but Calm Mind + Ninjask and Quiver Dance seems redundant. Either remove Ninjask or keep him but espeon needs to stay.

5. Put vaporeon over Gorebyss as it can pass Wishes and Acid Armour and phaze with roar.




The Sets
Espeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Magic Bounce
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Fighting]/Light Screen/Morning Sun
- Stored Power/Reflect
- Calm Mind
- Baton Pass

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 248 HP / 132 Def / 128 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Acid Armor
- Baton Pass
- Roar/Scald
- Wish


I'm a bit tired right now so i'll edit this post later to give youa better rate im sorry. good luck
 
hi there i dont have a great deal of experience with baton pass team but i still think i can help you out.

1. Your gorebyss smashpasser is not really for a baton pass chain. Its more to just use and pass off to a Salamence etc. IMO it should be the first thing to go.

2. Decide whether you want a SmashPassing team or a Baton Pass chain

3. Mr Mime has to go for Espeon because it can do exactly the same thing and has access to Magic Bounce which will be incredibly useful against Phazers and people trying to set up Entry Hazards.

4. It seems to me that Masquerain is completely outclassed by Venemoth but Calm Mind + Ninjask and Quiver Dance seems redundant. Either remove Ninjask or keep him but espeon needs to stay.

5. Put vaporeon over Gorebyss as it can pass Wishes and Acid Armour and phaze with roar.




The Sets
Espeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Magic Bounce
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Fighting]/Light Screen/Morning Sun
- Stored Power/Reflect
- Calm Mind
- Baton Pass

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 248 HP / 132 Def / 128 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Acid Armor
- Baton Pass
- Roar/Scald
- Wish


I'm a bit tired right now so i'll edit this post later to give youa better rate im sorry. good luck

Can do and it seems like your right. Gorebyss hasn't been helping as much as I thought. Not sure what you want me to do about masquerain though...
 
Just FYI Double Team is not allowed on the Smogon server since it breaks the Evasion clause.
 
I wouldn't suggest double team because it is not allowed in the normal teiring of things only under cretin rules is it allowed to i would suggest maybe substitute on the smergal so you can baton pass off a sub or you could go with some move that gives +3 to a stat like cotton guard or tail glow.
 
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