Rain OU Team

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Politoed (M) @ Leftovers

Trait: Drizzle

EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef

Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)

- Perish Song
- Focus Blast
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump

Politoed, of course is the lead that sets up my rain.
Perish Song is to force some switches, and if they try to stay in for just a little bit, they get to meet my pokemon that set up ( Jirachi, Volcarona, and Scrafty ). Focus Blast is coverage. I've found myself needing Fighting type coverage more and more. Hydro Pump is because Politoed's special attack isn't the greatest. That little extra power and a rain boost makes up for it. While Ice Beam is coverage, and dragon killing.


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Jirachi @ Leftovers

Trait: Serene Grace

EVs: 240 HP / 140 Atk / 64 Def / 64 SDef

Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)

- Cosmic Power
- Wish
- Thunder Wave
- Iron Head


My little Troll :-3.
Cosmic Power sets up defenses to a pretty ridiculous number. Wish is for healing itself, and giving a 200 Hp boost to the rest of the team when desired. Rain gives him only ground weakness! Although I'm not gonna troll an Air Balloon. Thunder Wave is to cripple sweepers, and set up for Iron Head, to have some annoying flinch hax. Enough said.


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Latias (F) @ Leftovers

Trait: Levitate

EVs: 128 HP / 96 Def / 252 SAtk / 32 Spd

Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)

- Thunder
- Surf
- Roost
- Psyshock


Now, I considered about this a little bit, considering I already have a bulky psychic type in Jirachi. But Jirachi is mainly for walling things out and trolling around with Para + Flinch combo. And doesn't even utilize a psychic move.
Latias has Thunder and Surf both supported by the rain ( Love that ). While she has Psyshock for STAB, and taking down Bliss. Roost is for recovery
which Latias makes great use of. I considered swapping her for Dragonite.



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Scrafty (M) @ Leftovers

Trait: Moxie

EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd

Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)

- Dragon Dance
- Drain Punch
- Crunch
- Ice Punch

My d-dance sweeper. I could use a fighting type, and Scrafty is one of my favorites in battle to use.
Dragon Dance gets his sweeping game on, so he can outspeed and hit hard enough to take something down without a Moxie boost.
Drain Punch keeps him alive, because he has surprisingly good defenses, and so he doesn't take a 50% drop if someone makes " That switch " to a ghost type to let him go flying. Crunch is STAB. And Ice Punch is coverage, and takes care of dragons. Which of course, are annoying in OU.


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Rotom-W @ Choice Specs

Trait: Levitate

EVs: 64 Def / 252 SAtk / 64 SDef / 128 Spd

Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)

- Hydro Pump
- Thunder
- Volt Switch
- Trick


This punk was made for the rain.
My classic Rotom bulky sweeper Ev's, little bit of defenses, maxed Sp Atk, and 128 Spd. Specs makes him hit ridiculously hard.
Hydro Pump is STAB, his only choice too, but it hits plenty hard.
Thunder is STAB, gets 100% acc in rain, the works.
Volt Switch is for scouting, and Trick is to screw down physical sweepers.0



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Volcarona (F) @ Leftovers

Trait: Flame Body

EVs: 252 SAtk / 96 SDef / 160 Spd

Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)

- Hurricane
- Quiver Dance
- Bug Buzz
- Hidden Power [Water]


Rainarona xD
Hurricane is 100% acc in the rain, and it can even confuse!
Quiver dance is a booster for his special stats, while Bug Buzz is STAB.
HP water makes up for you fire STAB you're missing out on, and gives you a little rain attack to use... Mainly for rock types.
 
Is this team a joke?.. Golurk some more... Scarf politoed het real with racho and latias. Cosmic poweris dumb and use surf and latios and maybe you are somewhere on latias. Scrafty is okay.. As is rotom although toxicroak outclasses scrafty.

I can't comment on volcarona...
 
Is this team a joke?.. Golurk some more... Scarf politoed het real with racho and latias. Cosmic poweris dumb and use surf and latios and maybe you are somewhere on latias. Scrafty is okay.. As is rotom although toxicroak outclasses scrafty.

I can't comment on volcarona...

The team being worked on, it's not a joke.
Scarf Politoed has been tested in several of my rain teams, and sucks crap.
And of course, boosting both of my defenses at the same time is dumb with my wall / troll. ( This was sarcasm ) Toxicroak only outclasses scrafty to an extent, as having a 4X psychic weakness doesn't really appeal to me.
 
Is this team a joke?.. Golurk some more... Scarf politoed het real with racho and latias. Cosmic poweris dumb and use surf and latios and maybe you are somewhere on latias. Scrafty is okay.. As is rotom although toxicroak outclasses scrafty.

I can't comment on volcarona...

BTW He trys to not always use the most rain used pokemon...so thats why its not kingdra kabutops ect
 

I already am using surf. And to top things off, That would give me 4 freaking special sweepers. I already messed up a little bit on Latias trying to make her too tankish. Are you just ignorant to anything that isn't standard?
 
I think you would get better results using a Dragonite or Tornadus for a hurricane user than Volcanoroth. They get stab on hurricane and they just fit more on a rain dance team anyway. And not to mention all these pokes need a rapid spinner... which you lack.
 
I think you would get better results using a Dragonite or Tornadus for a hurricane user than Volcanoroth. They get stab on hurricane and they just fit more on a rain dance team anyway. And not to mention all these pokes need a rapid spinner... which you lack.

I agree, Dragonite would be a solid replacement for Volca. Dnight works really well with any weather team you might face. If you use either though you have have HAVE to get a spinner. Dnight's multiscale is ruined if Rocks are out and Volca? Well Volca doesn't get along too well with Stealth Rocks. If you really want a fighting pokemon, I would replace Scrafty with Hitmontop. He serves as a spinner but also gets mach punch, a move that would prove quite useful.
 
I already am using surf. And to top things off, That would give me 4 freaking special sweepers. I already messed up a little bit on Latias trying to make her too tankish. Are you just ignorant to anything that isn't standard?

Whoa, chill with the hate and "I don't use standards" attitude. Standard sets are standard for a reason (they work), and your sets do nothing notable that a standard set couldn't do. Also, this team lacks a real game plan, and just seems like 6 random pokes thrown together...

But for changes on the team, I'd have to agree with Toxicroak > Scrafty and Dragonite > Volcarona. Also, I would change Jirachi into a support moveset with Stealth Rock, which would change some 3hko's into 2hko's. These changes give you reliable switchins to some dangerous pokes (Terrakion, Volcarona, Latios), while also maintaining similair roles.

Here's the Jirachi set and good luck.

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Nature: Careful
252HP/224SpD/32Spe
Iron Head
Body Slam/Thunderwave
Wish
Stealth Rock
 
Thank you, I'm sorry about that.

It gets a bit frustrating when the first thing someone says to you on the site is, " Is this team supposed to be a joke? "

And yes, this team was thrown together pretty fast, considering I'm a top user at another competitive battling site, and we have our own tiers.

Either way, thanks for the tips, I'll try them out.
 
I know the feeling of taking a while to assemble a team and all they say is your a joke. The hurricaine idea is good, but i really dont like a volcarona being on a rain team, its just..... ugh. Try using tornadus as your spcl attacker who serves same purpose. Good luck
 
Why make this an RMT if you made it in under 4 minutes?

Anyways, first things first. The Politoed, no offense, is an abomination. Try Scald / Toxic / Protect / Perish Song. You just don't run an offensive set with defensive EVs...

Your Jirachi is extremely susceptible to status conditions, I can see Jellicent or the like smoking this guy. Get Substitute plz. And Body Slam > TWave, Jirachi is already weak to ground, why make it even weaker.

Run Max Speed on Latias or be screwed over by every single base 100 Pokemon in existence.

I thought every kid starting off with weather knew that one should never, ever, EVER use Scrafty in Rain. Seems I was incorrect. Rain does absoloutely nothing for this guy, and DD Scrafty sucks anyways. Its Speed is abominable. That's combined with the fact that you're using Moxie over Shed Skin, which is a terrible choice. Scrafty will be wrecked by anything carrying status. Changing the item to Lum Berry will help if you're hell-bent on keeping Moxie.

Not much to say on Rotom-W. Pretty generic rain abuser. Why the weird EV spread though? Just wondering.

Volcarona...wowwww. This thing is SO bad. I mean, at least use a Pokemon in Rain that doesn't get its best attacking move's power cut in half, and the power of moves that hit it super effectively multiplied by 1.5. Why would you even consider this? I mean, you think this thing can pull off a sweep? Yeah, enter Gyarados. There are more counters, like Jellicent (which by the way will destroy your entire team with proper support), but I'm not going to list them all. This is just a bad idea. I understand you're trying to be original, but sometimes originality has to take a backseat to practicality. You don't even have a spinner, which means if the opponent has Stealth Rocks up, which they most likely will, then your Volc takes 50% on entry. That sucks. Replace this with a Tornadus or something.

Overall, it honestly looks like you just picked 6 Pokemon you thought would do well in rain, and then threw them together on the same team. The synergy just isn't there for me, I'm sorry. Adding a spinner will help this team immensely. I recommend Tentacruel, because it gets a Rain Dish bonus and can set up Toxic Spikes as well. this team needs some serious playtesting and modification, but I see potential somewhere in the distance. Just keep trucking.
 
Why make this an RMT if you made it in under 4 minutes?

Anyways, first things first. The Politoed, no offense, is an abomination. Try Scald / Toxic / Protect / Perish Song. You just don't run an offensive set with defensive EVs...

Your Jirachi is extremely susceptible to status conditions, I can see Jellicent or the like smoking this guy. Get Substitute plz. And Body Slam > TWave, Jirachi is already weak to ground, why make it even weaker.

Run Max Speed on Latias or be screwed over by every single base 100 Pokemon in existence.

I thought every kid starting off with weather knew that one should never, ever, EVER use Scrafty in Rain. Seems I was incorrect. Rain does absoloutely nothing for this guy, and DD Scrafty sucks anyways. Its Speed is abominable. That's combined with the fact that you're using Moxie over Shed Skin, which is a terrible choice. Scrafty will be wrecked by anything carrying status. Changing the item to Lum Berry will help if you're hell-bent on keeping Moxie.

Not much to say on Rotom-W. Pretty generic rain abuser. Why the weird EV spread though? Just wondering.

Volcarona...wowwww. This thing is SO bad. I mean, at least use a Pokemon in Rain that doesn't get its best attacking move's power cut in half, and the power of moves that hit it super effectively multiplied by 1.5. Why would you even consider this? I mean, you think this thing can pull off a sweep? Yeah, enter Gyarados. There are more counters, like Jellicent (which by the way will destroy your entire team with proper support), but I'm not going to list them all. This is just a bad idea. I understand you're trying to be original, but sometimes originality has to take a backseat to practicality. You don't even have a spinner, which means if the opponent has Stealth Rocks up, which they most likely will, then your Volc takes 50% on entry. That sucks. Replace this with a Tornadus or something.

Overall, it honestly looks like you just picked 6 Pokemon you thought would do well in rain, and then threw them together on the same team. The synergy just isn't there for me, I'm sorry. Adding a spinner will help this team immensely. I recommend Tentacruel, because it gets a Rain Dish bonus and can set up Toxic Spikes as well. this team needs some serious playtesting and modification, but I see potential somewhere in the distance. Just keep trucking.



Okay, I'll try to hit this on point by point.

" Why make this an RMT if you made it in under 4 minutes? "

I figured, " Why not use the RMT " to get the team ironed out a bit, then start looking at actually improvements. So I threw it on here to see what would be said so I could polish it up a little bit before I actually used it on someone and looked like a fool. Because that usually isn't a good feeling.

Although looking at it now, it does seem to be a bit of a silly way to do things, keep in mind, I'm new to the site. Although that is no excuse, sorry if I made a bad impression on anybody. But I'm definitely not a stranger to competitive battling, been doing it a while. I came here from a bit of a different site, you might have heard of it, " The Pokemondb "
Anyway, I always used the RMT section there to get improvements before testing out my teams, but we had a different set of tiers, in which Jirachi and Latias were both uber. So I never really used them, ( Didn't do a lot of Uber battling really. )

" Anyways, first things first. The Politoed, no offense, is an abomination. Try Scald / Toxic / Protect / Perish Song. You just don't run an offensive set with defensive EVs... "

Scald and Toxic? Isn't that a bit contradictory?
I've found myself using Hydro Pump on my Politoeds without Sp Atk investment a while ago, and thought it was kind of stupid, although look at it this way. 120 power move, + Rain boost ( 50% ), + STAB ( 50% ).

Normally by the time all of that's calculated, he has no trouble doing some serious damage, while Perish Song was something new I'm trying out.

Although I will try your set out on him, I've grown fairly attached to the one I'm currently using, only with Hypnosis or Toxic.

Also, why would I try to Toxic stall while wearing myself down with Perish Song?


" Your Jirachi is extremely susceptible to status conditions, I can see Jellicent or the like smoking this guy. Get Substitute plz. And Body Slam > TWave, Jirachi is already weak to ground, why make it even weaker. "

I had a friend of mine point out the T-wave < Body Slam thing, I'll definitely change that up. What I replace for Substitute? That sounds like a fairly nice idea for him.

" Run Max Speed on Latias or be screwed over by every single base 100 Pokemon in existence. "

Now, should I just screw Latias and go for Latios?
If not, I'll just do that, but what Ev's do I change for max speed?

" I thought every kid starting off with weather knew that one should never, ever, EVER use Scrafty in Rain. Seems I was incorrect. Rain does absoloutely nothing for this guy, and DD Scrafty sucks anyways. Its Speed is abominable. That's combined with the fact that you're using Moxie over Shed Skin, which is a terrible choice. Scrafty will be wrecked by anything carrying status. Changing the item to Lum Berry will help if you're hell-bent on keeping Moxie. "

Yeah, I was hesitant to even try using him.
And Jolly + Dragon Dance gets his speed relatively high, along with Moxie boosts keeping his attack great, but the points about status, are definitely true. I might just go back to my standard Toxicroak here.
So I'll probably just play it classic there for croak.

Although, I've learned from multiple experiences, that sometimes carry a pokemon that doesn't necesarily benefit from the rain, just for team coverage and not being screwed by other weather, can be a good idea.

Either way, Scrafty doesn't seem to pull it off.

" Not much to say on Rotom-W. Pretty generic rain abuser. Why the weird EV spread though? Just wondering. "

I've found that being an amazing bulky sweeper spread.
Even with 252 Ev's in speed, he's not gonna outspeed other sweepers with Specs equipped, but I love having specs.
He really got turned into a Tank breaker / Bulky Sweeper.
The defensive Ev's let him not be completely screwed by sweepers he can't outspeed, while having that massive Special Attack and epic rain support lets him break down tanks fairly easily, while still having a chance of survival.


" Volcarona...wowwww. This thing is SO bad. I mean, at least use a Pokemon in Rain that doesn't get its best attacking move's power cut in half, and the power of moves that hit it super effectively multiplied by 1.5. Why would you even consider this? I mean, you think this thing can pull off a sweep? Yeah, enter Gyarados. There are more counters, like Jellicent (which by the way will destroy your entire team with proper support), but I'm not going to list them all. This is just a bad idea. I understand you're trying to be original, but sometimes originality has to take a backseat to practicality. You don't even have a spinner, which means if the opponent has Stealth Rocks up, which they most likely will, then your Volc takes 50% on entry. That sucks. Replace this with a Tornadus or something. "

Do I think it can? I've swept people with this thing on numerous occasions. Now, I normally had a spinner on those occasions, due to my throwing this team together too fast, I completely forgot about that.

But look at it like this.

I lose Flamethrower / Fiery Dance. That's Fire type STAB. But I gain a 120 power coverage move, and a powered up and more useable HP water to drain the life out of any rock type thinking they're smart coming in on me.

There's nothing un-practical about it, didn't have to be original.
And oh yes, I'm totally going to stay in on a Jellicent, Special wall and super effective typing. I've got Rotom-W for that situation, Gyarados as well.
( Notice that Rotom-W completely walls out the average Gyarados )

Although, I have been considering using Tornadus, in all of my past experiences, I've swept more and more people with this thing, than I ever have with a rain support Tornadus.
 
Jirachi@Leftovers
Serene Grace Modest
EV:200 Spcl 252 HP 50 Atk 8 SpE
Thunder
Wish
Iron Head
HP Ice

I used this simular set in 4th gen, abuses rain very much. Wish to provide itself/ some of your pokes with lower health with decent recovery. Iron head is great because its ability makes it flinch about every turn. HP ice will 1hko gliscor& dnite with stealth rock support. Nobody will expect you to run hp on a rachi. Thunder is the star because it is 100% accuracte, hits pokemon like jellicent great, along with investment in spcl attack. And as i said, about a 50 % chance of paralyze which is excellent for ruining anythings day. Provides a mix with spcl attack, attack, and also bulky. Good form of recovery with leftovers. The 200 Ev for spcl attack for that extra umph, great bulk with 252 HP, 50 atk just for the extra damage with iron head, and 8 speed to outspeed simular rachi's with only 4 speed investment, or gliscor with minimal investment. I loved using this on a rain dance team. Also, lessens the power of fire moves which really helps jirachi.
 
Jirachi@Leftovers
Serene Grace Modest
EV:200 Spcl 252 HP 50 Atk 8 SpE
Thunder
Wish
Iron Head
HP Ice

I used this simular set in 4th gen, abuses rain very much. Wish to provide itself/ some of your pokes with lower health with decent recovery. Iron head is great because its ability makes it flinch about every turn. HP ice will 1hko gliscor& dnite with stealth rock support. Nobody will expect you to run hp on a rachi. Thunder is the star because it is 100% accuracte, hits pokemon like jellicent great, along with investment in spcl attack. And as i said, about a 50 % chance of paralyze which is excellent for ruining anythings day. Provides a mix with spcl attack, attack, and also bulky. Good form of recovery with leftovers. The 200 Ev for spcl attack for that extra umph, great bulk with 252 HP, 50 atk just for the extra damage with iron head, and 8 speed to outspeed simular rachi's with only 4 speed investment, or gliscor with minimal investment. I loved using this on a rain dance team. Also, lessens the power of fire moves which really helps jirachi.


I like this set, definitely gonna give it a try :D
 
Or you can put some of the atk ev's into def to take a EQ from a landorus. Anyways if you have the time and after fixing some stuff on the team, do you want to test it out against my weather team? I never tried it out yet, so we would both be noobies at it. If you want, tell me when we can battle.
 
Or you can put some of the atk ev's into def to take a EQ from a landorus. Anyways if you have the time and after fixing some stuff on the team, do you want to test it out against my weather team? I never tried it out yet, so we would both be noobies at it. If you want, tell me when we can battle.

Haha, sure.

I take it you have PO?
I guess I'll try to PM you or something on the site around when I can battle, because my Hectic schedule is making it a little hard on me right now.
 
Sadly, i dont po :/. I find wifi format more fun

Wifi format is more fun, I can easily agree with you there.

My problem is, me and my friends are literally in the middle of a " Playthrough race " so my team is solid set around 40's.

This team was made on PO :'/

I'll try to friend you or something and when I get through with my standard crap in my actual game, I'll PM.

K?
 
Wondering, back on topic. If you are going to use the jirachi set i said, switch 50 of the atk ev's into defense so you can live a scarf landorus EQ and live to counter with hp ice
 
I don't know why everyone is hating on your team, originality is exactly what the meta game needs right now. Dragonite on a rain team, come on, lets please do something more creative. I personally run a successful offensive rain with Choice Scarf Gyarados, and it's so unique no one ever sees it coming. I'v one hundreds of battles due to my opponent's lack of judgement, shame on them for expecting the norm. There are some obvious changes to make though, and the first would be surf instead of hydro pump on Politoed. Reliability and consistency are some of the most important factors for a great battler. If you want to try the Gayardos set here it is:

Gayarados @ Choice Scarf
Intimidate
252 Atk/252 Spe/4 Hp
Adamant

Ice Fang
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Waterfall

I think he could do a good job of replacing Latias, so try it out.
Good Luck with your team Moxie Rain King
 
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