rate meh team.

overlord

lucario@ focus Sash
modest/timid
evs-252sp.attack/speed, 6hp
inner focus
dark pulse
dragon pulse
aura sphere
vacuum wave

lucario is my special sweeper. dark pulse for Azelf, Uxie, and other annoying psychics. dragon pulse for dragons. aura sphere for STAB. vacuum wave for weavile and revenge kills. I was going to go hidden power ice but after a dragon pulse most, if not all, dragons will go down with vacuum wave. Also dragon pulse hits everything for neutral damage which is good. Lets look at the facts for a second.
  • a lot of people expect SD lucarios if it’s a lead so he basically gets a “free” hit on taunters.
  • he has 31 SPEED IVS!!! I love that…

    Metagross@lum berry
    Adamant
    evs-252hp, 240attack, 18 def
    clear body
    meteor mash
    earthquake
    brick break???
    bullet punch

    Metagross is my tank. he can take an earthquake from garchomp and then, if his luck holds out, meteor mash and bullet punch on the next turn for a K.O. brick break is questionable. i may go with Zen headbut for better coverage but idk. earthquake is for other steel types.

    togekiss@lefties or lum berry
    Modest
    evs-252 hp, 100 spd, 152 sp.def
    serene grace
    air slash
    nasty plot
    flamethrower
    aura sphere

    another special sweeper. air slash is very annoying to others because of the 60% flinch rate. aura sphere for rhyperiors and other rock types. flamethrower for skarmory. Nasty plot for the welcome stat boost.

    Vaporeon@leftovers
sassy
evs-252 def. 68 sp.attack, 188 hp
surf
wish
ice beam
protect/acid armor
vaporeon has save my butt more times than I can remember. He handles garchomp and more importantly infernape really well. Wish for support for the team, as you can see most of this team can easily take a hit. Surf for STAB and infernape. Ice beam for grass types and dragons. Im debating whether to go with acid armor or protect. Acid armor raises vaporeons iffy defenses whereas protect insure a safe healing turn. Idk… he also walls this teams ice weaknesses.
Aerodactyl@life orb
adamant
evs-252 attack, speed
ice fang
earthquake
rockslide
aerial ace

aerial ace for heracross. ice fang for dragons. earthquake for other rock types. rockslide for flyers. phenomenal speed with choice band could ko many many pokes. However, a choice scarfed garchomp can outrun me so i was thinking of switching to the scarf for extra speed.



Breloom@toxic orb
Jolly
evs-252 attack/speed 6 hp
mach punch
spore
seed bomb
focus punch



breloom is beastly and i love it. mach punch is for speedy ice types(weavile) spore is for 100% sleep accuracy. seed bomb for bulky waters and focus punch after spore for major damage. i went with jolly because my goal is to put the foe to sleep and go from there, but i will usually have to hit first because breloom is so fragile. mach punch and focus punch is redundant i know but it seems neccesary for revenge kills.

Thank you for your time. please help. i know about my ice type weakness but all of the pokes on my team with ice type weakness can trump ice types (i.e. aerodactyl-rockslide, breloom-mach punch, togekiss- aura sphere) and the rest of the pokes on my team are highly resistant to ice. Metagross, and Lucario are steel to resist ice and umbreon ses it’s beastly sp.Def to wall ice attacks.

Threat list:

Azelf- lucario does-
Damage: 241 - 284
Damage: 82.82% - 97.59%

OU:
Aerodactyl- used as a lead my lucario can either aura sphere or dragon pulse. Aero will probably taunt or stealth rock on the first turn anyway. Second turn vacuum wave k.o.’s. otherwise metagross works
Azelf- Lucario’s dark pulse will always ko if azelf has bad sp.def ivs/evs or if it has good ones then vacuum wave can finish it.
Blissey- metagross, Breloom!!!
Breloom- aerodactyl aerial aces it.
Bronzong- togekisses flamethrower 1HKOS after 1 nasty plot.
Celebi- togekiss, aerodactyl can both get in super effective hits. Togekiss will probably get in a nasty plot too.
Cresselia- umbrreon does a nice job toxi/stalling it.
Donphan- lucario
Dragonite- metagross can ko it with meteor mash followed by bullet punch or Aerodactyl can ice fang/ rock slide it
Dugtrio- lucario/ togekiss
Dusknoir- lucario for if it’s a lead or togekiss if it isn’t
Electivire- metagross, aerodactyl both have earthquake for him
Forretress- togekiss can setup on his arse and sweep!
Garchomp- aerodactyl if it isn’t scarfed, lucario if it is can kill it with dragon pulse and vacuum wave.
Gengar- maybe lucario, metagross works as a great gengar exterminator as well.
Gliscor- air slash togekiss works rather nicely, or I could toxi-stall with umbreon.
Gyarados- air slash kiss works yet again as long as it hasn’t dded
Heatran- lucario, togekiss, metagross, aerodactyl, an breloom can all kill it
Heracross- metagross for the scarfed variant or togekiss for all other kinds.
Hippowdon- almost all of my pokemon have moves to stop it.
Infernape- togekiss!!!! Or lucario with aura sphere followed by vacuum wave.
Jirachi- metagross earthquakes the serene gracers while togekiss flamethrowers all others.
Lucario- my own lucario outspeeds almost all other types with neutral speed thanks to it’s 31 speed ivs, yay.
Machamp- togekiss flinches it to death or aerodactyl aerial aces it.
Magnezone- aura sphere lucario and togekiss ko it in 1-2 hits, aerodactyl’s earthquake 1HKO’s
Metagross- togekiss can survive an un choice banded metagross’s meteor mash and the flamethrower it for an easy win.
Porygon-Z- aura sphere from either lucario or togekiss. Metagross’s meteor mash/bullet punch combo works too!
Rhyperior-aura sphere from togekiss or lucario 1hkos
Salamence- dragon pulse, ice fang, toxic. Any of those would work
Skarmory- flamethrower from togekiss 1-2hkos
Slowbro- dark pulse from lucario or seed bomb from breloom
Starmie- dark pulse from lucario or seed bomb from brelom
Suicune- seed bomb
Swampert- seed bomb
Tangrowth- flamethrower
Togekiss
Tyranitar- aura sphere., earthquake
Vaporeon- spore, seed bomb
Weavile- mach punch, bullet punch, vacuum wave
Weezing-????
Yanmega- togekiss’s flamethrower all the way
Zapdos-rockslide from aerodactyl should suffice

IN the next section I will be more vague as the threat level decreases
BL:
Abomasnow-aurasphere, flamethrower
Alakazam- dark pulse
Ambipom- vacuum wave, aura sphere
Arcanine- earthquake
Articuno- ROCKSLIDE!!!
Blaziken- aerial ace
Charizard- rockslide
Claydol- dark pulse
Cloyster- rock slide
Drapion- earthquake
Empoleon- aura sphere
Entei- earthquake
Espeon- dark pulse
Exeggutor- aerial ace
Floatzel-????
Flygon- dragon pulse
Gallade- aerial ace
Gardevoir- dark pulse
Hariyama- aerial ace
Honchkrow- ???
Houndoom- aura sphere
Jolteon- earthquake from metagross
Jynx- rockslide
Kingdradragon pulse
Leafeon- ???
Lickilicky- aura sphere
Ludicolo-?????
Magmortar-earthquake
Marowak-??????
Medicham- aerial ace
Mesprit- dark pulse
Milotic- airslash
Miltank-aura sphere
Mismagius-dark pulse
Moltres-rockslide
Ninjask-rockslide
Porygon2-aura sphere
Raikou- earthquake
Ramparados-aura sphere
Regice- rockslide, aurasphere
Regigigas-aurasphere
Regirock- aura sphere
Registeel- aura sphere
Roserade- air slash
Sceptile-air slash
Scizor- flamethrower
Slaking- aura sphere
Shaymin- flamethrower, air slash
Shedinja-rock slide
Smeargle, vacuum wave
Snorlax- aura sphere
Spiritomb-?????
Staraptor- aura sphere
Steelix- aura sphere
Tauros- aura sphere
Torterra- air slash
Umbreon- ?????
Uxie- dark pulse
Venusaur- air slash
Zangoose- aura sphere


???????????????- This does not mean I don’t have a counter it simply means that I don’t have any 1 move that could ko the guy
 
Just a precision, a counter has to be able to switch in the Pokemon it counters, stay alive, and threaten back enough to either KO or force it out before it is KO'd himself. Do you see Lucario switching into an Infernape with Flamethrower/Flare Drive? I don't.

For the same reason, Lucario can't switch into Donphan's Earthquake, Rhyperior has STAB super effective moves on both your "counters", Zapdos will most likely fry your Aerodactyl, etc.

Basically, half of your counter list is null and void.
 
just for clarification...
togekiss works together with lucario to counter rhyperior. rhyperior tries to use e-quake and i switch to togekiss togekiss 1hkos with aura sphere. also i never said counter one time in this post either you didnt read it or you werent paying attention..or you are like mentally challenged
 
Actually, Sharpteeth made a perfectly valid point, so you need to rethink your counters on the threat list, not insult him.
At a glance, serious problem with Fire attacks, and to a lesser extent Electric attacks. So, a Flash Fire user (take your pick, Heatran or Arcanine) and/or an Electrivire (or Jolteon) might help your team.
You need another defensive Pokemon, maybe over Breloom/Aerodactyl, to cover damage. A Bronzong (standard Supporter set) would do that nicely if not for the Fire weakness.
I suggest that with this team you start again from scratch, actually.
 
i would just like to mention two things:
1. i really appreciate the advice but three of my pokes resist fire type attacks. both metagross and breloom can shrug of an electric hit. btw this teams record is 40-4 on wifi. maybe ill go with gliscor over breloom but then imweak to watr.

2. i wasnt insulting him i was merelyt staing that i didnt use the word "counter" anywhere in that list.
 
overlord said:
or you are like mentally challenged
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Well anyway, onto your other points
Vaporeon resists Fire attacks. Aerodactyl resists Fire but has the durability of my pet stick insect. Both are weak to Electric so the opponent may outpredict you later on in the match.
The third one I guess is Togekiss? What happens if a Physical Infernape (for lack of a better example) comes in?
Going with Gliscor over Breloom would be good cause Vaporeon could use Water attacks to activate Water Absorb then. Then you would have some Pokemon to switch in in case of Ice as well. And the problem with Fire is reduced (though not eliminated). I would go with that.
That's an impressive record, but you can always improve.
 
Can you clean up the format to make it user friendly? Right now, it looks atrociously presented. I will lock this thread if I don't see an improvement by tommorow.

Thank you.
 
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