Hey everyone,
So I decided to finally create an account on Smogon after being a lurker for about a month... learned everything from this site, haha to think that before the ubers were the best pokemon and that stat changing moves were worthless..lol. Anyways, I've been constantly tweaking my team to cover my weaknesses for about a month since i've done netbattle so I was wondering if anyone could help me make the team even better with any suggestions. Here is it:
UPDATED ON BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS THANK YOU :) ::
Starmie @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Substitute
Salamence (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 148 HP / 220 Atk / 140 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide
Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 120 Spd / 60 SAtk / 76 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Giga Drain
- Psychic
- Recover
Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 104 Def / 96 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes
Swampert (F) @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 138 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Surf
The Old team is below:
New concerns with new team:
With no longer having Taunt (which I found very useful), how do I counter curselaxes and any other baton passing or stat raising pokemon? This becomes a bigger problem especially if I lose my skarm which often happens due to the frequency of magnetons lately. Also is my EV spread for Viltar correct? And did I choose the right type of Swampert to replace milotic or should I go curse pert?
So I decided to finally create an account on Smogon after being a lurker for about a month... learned everything from this site, haha to think that before the ubers were the best pokemon and that stat changing moves were worthless..lol. Anyways, I've been constantly tweaking my team to cover my weaknesses for about a month since i've done netbattle so I was wondering if anyone could help me make the team even better with any suggestions. Here is it:
UPDATED ON BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS THANK YOU :) ::
Starmie @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Substitute
Salamence (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 148 HP / 220 Atk / 140 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide
Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 120 Spd / 60 SAtk / 76 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Giga Drain
- Psychic
- Recover
Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 104 Def / 96 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes
Swampert (F) @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 138 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Surf
The Old team is below:
Code:
Starmie @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
Comments: Standard Starmie sweeper build. I love this guy, often I get 4 pokemon sweeps on mediocre teams because this guy join pwns almost everything.
Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 44 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Def / 168 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Taunt
Comments: T-Tar build. Does wonders against stupid Blisseys and Curselaxes. Also a decent counter for Umbreons (seeing a lot of those lately) taunt so they can't use baton pass and then earthquake the crap out of it.
Salamence (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 148 HP / 220 Atk / 140 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide
Comments: My primary physical sweeper. Kills any tars like its job. I gave it a Lum berry because for some reason people like stat changing this badboy. No need for choice band or anything becuase usually I end up sweeping even without dragon dance.
Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 120 Spd / 60 SAtk / 76 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Giga Drain
- Psychic
- Recover
Comments: yes yes I know, celebi is very often considered cheap. I just follow by the rules, and he isn't considered a uber so let's end it at that. In terms of team practicality, this guy is VERY useful. Giga Drain owns all the swamperts that everyone uses. Psychic also deals with Weezings (which are a pain in the ASS), Crobats, and gets STAB. Overall solid and very hardy (but yes it is killable, I've had it killed numerous times). Also I often challenge Uber teams on netbattle and this guy is neccessary for tough uber teams. (although i found most of the people who use ubers pretty easy to beat). My standard counter to all those Zapdos, Raikou, Jolteon, (insert electric pokemon here) if I don't feel like pulling out Ttar to EQ (or if I lost him). Psychic also owns Nidoking.
Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 104 Def / 96 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Roar
- Spikes
- Substitute
Comments: Physical wall. Good Curselax counter in case my other counter dies Spikes a good support move, and a AMAZING Heracross counter. Megahorn does nothing, and Drill Peck owns it. Also very fun to switch into toxic and see it have no effect. Good against Marowak Bonemerangs also.
Milotic (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 84 HP / 252 Def / 12 Spd / 104 SAtk / 56 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf
Comments: Good Double Wall but acts usually as my primary special wall. Hypnosis does a good job of disabling opponents that I have a hard time countering (when one of my countering pokemon dies or an unusual moveset). Everything else is self-explanatory.
With no longer having Taunt (which I found very useful), how do I counter curselaxes and any other baton passing or stat raising pokemon? This becomes a bigger problem especially if I lose my skarm which often happens due to the frequency of magnetons lately. Also is my EV spread for Viltar correct? And did I choose the right type of Swampert to replace milotic or should I go curse pert?