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sirpsychofaisal

First off, I’d like to say sorry for my previous thread being closed, due to me breaking the rules. I’ve not been on this site for a while, and so I forgot that I couldn’t ask for recommendations for certain aspects of my team.

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Starter:
Yanmega @ Life Orb
Modest w/ Speed Boost
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 6 HP
Protect
Air Slash
Bug Buzz
HP Ice

I’ve used this before, and it’s always been pretty good. Protect on first turn for the free speed boost, then attack with Air Slash and Bug Buzz for STAB, HP Ice for Dragons and other Ice-weak starters. Life Orb for the Attack boost.


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Special Sweeper:
Magnezone @ Leftovers
Modest w/ Magnet Pull
252 HP / 252 SpA / 6 Spe
Thunderbolt
HP Ice/Flash Cannon
Magnet Rise
Substitute

Sub to avoid Status from Bronzong, though Flash Cannon could be used for the STAB. Magnet Rise to avoid Earthquake. Boltbeam for coverage. Lefties to make up for Sub. I don't mind if it's only got two attacks, I've got Yanmega covering for Special too.


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Physical Sweeper:
Heracross @ Choice Scarf
Adamant w/ Guts
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 6 Def
Megahorn
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Night Slash

Outspeeds most other sweepers, bar other Choice Scarf users. Megahorn and Close Combat for STAB, Stone Edge and Night Slash for coverage.


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Cleric:
Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm w/ Natural Cure/Serene Grace HELP
252 Def / 80 SpA / 178 SpD
Wish
Aromatherapy
Ice Beam/Seismic Toss
Thunderwave

I’ve never liked Blissey. If there are any other Pokemon that can pull something like this off, let me know. I’m pretty sure something’s wrong with the EV spread too. Wish over Softboiled because it allows me to switch a nearly fainted Sweeper/Yanmega in. Heal Bell to clear my team’s Status, Ice Beam or Seismic Toss for offense, and Thunderwave to cripple things. Natural Cure is convenient, but Serene Grace boosts the chances of me freezing with Ice Beam, so I’m not sure which one to go for. Also helps Dusknoir, as I can switch to Blissey when I fear a Dark Pulse.


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Rapid Spinner:
Donphan @ leftovers
Impish w/ Sturdy
252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
Rapid Spin
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Stealth Rock

The Standard Donphan set. Rapid Spin to clear spikes, EQ for STAB, Ice Shard for much faster pokemon that are Ice-weak, and I think I’ll end up going with Stealth Rock, to take a nice chunk out of the opponent’s HP.


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Tank:
Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Impish w/ Pressure
252 HP / 124 Def / 134 SpD
Will-o-Wisp
Fire Punch
Shadow Sneak
Pain Split

Good switch-in for stuff trying to blow up or CC/BB Blissey. Fire Punch for Heracross who could get a Guts boost from WoW. Also maintains my Stealth Rock, as it stops the opponent coming in and Rapid Spinning.


There it is, still needs a few recommendations. Be as harsh as possible. Thanks in advance. :)
 
The Edit button's not really working for me at the moment, but I'd like to say that I'm not so sure about using Gallade, does anyone have any suitable replacements?

EDIT: It's back! *edits first post*
 
I'm not too fond of using lead Yanmegas. They can easily switch to their special wall right off, forcing you to switch. If they get Stealth Rock up before then, your Yanmega loses half his heath right off.

Gallade is good, but given the lack of speed your team has, you may want to replace him for Scarf Heracross, but if you're intent on keeping Gallade, you may want to give him Shadow Sneak given his speed. Possibly Swords Dance somewhere too.

I have to give you props for using shuckle, as I think he works great, but without sandstorm, he may not be what you're looking for.

EDIT: Gliscor could be a good option to replace Shuckle with if you're still looking to use Knock Off. He can absorb fighting attacks aimed at Magnezone and Blissey and has a ground immunity.
 
First off, thanks for the rate. :)

Hmmm... I could always switch Mega out for Donphan when a special wall comes out, then Spin the spikes away. Then I could lay down Stealth Rock, as they'd probably switch to a Spinner or a physical wall. I think Scarf Heracross sounds like a good idea, how's this?

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Physical Sweeper:
Heracross @ Choice Scarf
Adamant w/ Guts or Swarm?
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 6 Def
Megahorn
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Night Slash

For Shuckle, maybe I could give him Sandstorm? Whenever I've used him in the past, I'd always get Sandstorm off Hippowdons and Ttars.


EDIT: Is Gliscor weak to Rock? I might look into one.
 
sirpsychofaisal said:
First off, thanks for the rate. :)

Hmmm... I could always switch Mega out for Donphan when a special wall comes out, then Spin the spikes away. Then I could lay down Stealth Rock, as they'd probably switch to a Spinner or a physical wall. I think Scarf

Yeah, I completely spaced the fact you can just Rapid Spin the Rocks away.

Heracross sounds like a good idea, how's this?

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Physical Sweeper:
Heracross @ Choice Scarf
Adamant w/ Guts or Swarm?
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 6 Def
Megahorn
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Night Slash

I'd go with Guts, personally. This looks good to me.

For Shuckle, maybe I could give him Sandstorm? Whenever I've used him in the past, I'd always get Sandstorm off Hippowdons and Ttars.

Except if you give him sandstorm. you're limiting his moveset. Not a good idea in my opinion, but it's up to you.
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EDIT: Ugh, so sorry. I'm still new to Smogon's quoting system. I hope you can read that.
 
Gliscor said:
EDIT: Ugh, so sorry. I'm still new to Smogon's quoting system. I hope you can read that.
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Oright, that's fine. Cheers. Now I'm not so sure about Shuckle. It gets a nice SpD boost from Sandstorm, maybe I could use a pokemon with Sand Stream in my team? Then again, it wouldn't really help the other members of my team, so maybe I should use something other than Shuckle?


EDIT: I also don't really like having Gliscor, seeing as I already have Donphan on the team, which'd make for two Ground types. Is Heracross really gonna work well? I could use something like a Weavile. Something that's already both fast and strong, which I could either use with Life Orb, or give a Choice item to improve it's attack or speed.

EDIT#2: Dusknoir could prove to be helpful when it comes to blocking attempts to get rid of my Stealth Rock, so maybe it could replace Shuckle?
 
Also, I'm not very fond of Blissey, what other Pokemon could do it's job?

Also, does anyone know what I could replace Magnezone with? If my Cleric has high SpD, then I might decide to drop Magnezone.

I'm also a bit weary about having two bug types (three if I keep Shuckle).
 
Oh yeah, I forgot about that, cheers.

And thanks for the Blissey set, I'll update it.


I still need help with the Bugs, I'm thinking of replacing Shuckle with Dusknoir, but I've still got Hera and Yanmega, does it really make a difference if I have two Bugs? I know Fire would rip my team apart.
 
Alright guys, I've decided to keep Blissey and add Dusknoir to my team, this is because they compliment each other well. If the opponent attempts to CC or Explode, I switch to Dusky. When Dusknoir fears a Dark Pulse or something, I switch to Blissey. I might have a problem with coping with Pursuits though, but I could just predict them, and Pain Split or WoW the opponent. If it's Heracross, I'll just Fire Punch it as he could get a Guts boost from WoW.

Any better options than Magnezone or Heracross? I wanna get rid of one because I'm pretty fire-weak. I'd rather have Magnezone over Heracross.


If you switch out, do you lose a Sub? I know that you keep it if you Baton Pass.

Also, can Magnezone be roared away by Skarmory when it's got Magnet Pull?
 
Yes when you switch out you lose a sub and yes skarm could whirlwind you away because you have to be on the field for MP to work and whirlwind is a switch.
 
Oright, cheers. Does anyone know what could replace Heracross? Maybe I could use a Swellow lead instead of Yanmega, and keep the Heracross? Should I replace the Magnezone for something of more use?
 
I suppose I could use this over Yanmega, though I do prefer Yanmega as an actual Pokemon.

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Starter:
Swellow @ Toxic Orb/Flame Orb HELP
Jolly w/ Guts
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 6 SpD
Protect
Facade
Brave Bird/Aerial Ace/Quick Attack
Pursuit

Does that look good?
 
i recommend give hypnosis over hidden power on yanmega. if you can't to bad :(

And dusknoir doesn't need max def ev's try the ones in the analysis
 
mailman said:
i recommend give hypnosis over hidden power on yanmega. if you can't to bad :(

And dusknoir doesn't need max def ev's try the ones in the analysis
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Hmmm, I've used the Yanmega before, and I've never been lucky with Hypnosis AT ALL.

And that is the Dusknoir set from the analysis, but I'll look into it. Cheers.


EDIT: I suppose I could put some more in Atk or SpD, whaddya think?
 
sirpsychofaisal said:
Hmmm, I've used the Yanmega before, and I've never been lucky with Hypnosis AT ALL.

And that is the Dusknoir set from the analysis, but I'll look into it. Cheers.


EDIT: I suppose I could put some more in Atk or SpD, whaddya think?
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well will-o-wisp scares away physical attackers so investing some of your def into sp.def is good. it can also counter deoxys-s fairly well if it lacks shadow ball
 
mailman said:
well will-o-wisp scares away physical attackers so investing some of your def into sp.def is good. it can also counter deoxys-s fairly well if it lacks shadow ball
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Cool, Would you say 252 HP / 124 Def / 134 SpD, leaving it with 294 HP, 370 Def and 339 SpD.

Is 239 enough Atk to significantly dent, if not, OHKO sweepers?
 
sirpsychofaisal said:
First off, I’d like to say sorry for my previous thread being closed, due to me breaking the rules. I’ve not been on this site for a while, and so I forgot that I couldn’t ask for recommendations for certain aspects of my team.

CHANGES IN BOLD ( me too)

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Starter:
Yanmega @ Life Orb
Modest w/ Speed Boost
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 6 HP
Protect
Air Slash
Bug Buzz
HP Ice

I’ve used this before, and it’s always been pretty good. Protect on first turn for the free speed boost, then attack with Air Slash and Bug Buzz for STAB, HP Ice for Dragons and other Ice-weak starters. Life Orb for the Attack boost.

Standard, but a big mistake that i've seen when people use Yanmega is that they take it for granted that they outspeed pretty much everything after one speed boost. Look out for random scarf users, such as Infernape and Gengar. If Infernape/Gengar hasn't ran after the second turn, expect a scarf.

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Special Sweeper:
Magnezone @ Leftovers
Modest w/ Magnet Pull
252 HP / 252 SpA / 6 Spe
Thunderbolt
HP Ice/Flash Cannon
Magnet Rise
Substitute

Sub to avoid Status from Bronzong, though Flash Cannon could be used for the STAB. Magnet Rise to avoid Earthquake. Boltbeam for coverage. Lefties to make up for Sub. I don't mind if it's only got two attacks, I've got Yanmega covering for Special too.

He looks great.


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Physical Sweeper:
Heracross @ Choice Scarf
Adamant w/ Guts
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 6 Def
Megahorn
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Night Slash

Outspeeds most other sweepers, bar other Choice Scarf users. Megahorn and Close Combat for STAB, Stone Edge and Night Slash for coverage.

I can't believe that you didn't like Gallade :(. you already know that he's a bit too slow, but he can take some hits. Anyways, Heracross does have an immense attac stat, and is great with a choice band.

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Cleric:
Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm w/ Natural Cure/Serene Grace HELP
252 Def / 80 SpA / 178 SpD
Wish
Heal Bell
Ice Beam/Seismic Toss
Thunderwave

I’ve never liked Blissey. If there are any other Pokemon that can pull something like this off, let me know. I’m pretty sure something’s wrong with the EV spread too. Wish over Softboiled because it allows me to switch a nearly fainted Sweeper/Yanmega in. Heal Bell to clear my team’s Status, Ice Beam or Seismic Toss for offense, and Thunderwave to cripple things. Natural Cure is convenient, but Serene Grace boosts the chances of me freezing with Ice Beam, so I’m not sure which one to go for. Also helps Dusknoir, as I can switch to Blissey when I fear a Dark Pulse.

I also hate blissey. You might want to throw aromatherapy in there, maybe over wish, and add softboiled, because softboiled is a staple in practically every Bliss set. Aromatherapy is the same, but doesn't get blocked by soundproof like its twin move, Heal bell. Yes rag, I didn't know that...


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Rapid Spinner:
Donphan @ leftovers
Impish w/ Sturdy
252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
Rapid Spin
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Stealth Rock

The Standard Donphan set. Rapid Spin to clear spikes, EQ for STAB, Ice Shard for much faster pokemon that are Ice-weak, and I think I’ll end up going with Stealth Rock, to take a nice chunk out of the opponent’s HP.

Great spinner.

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Tank:
Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Impish w/ Pressure
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpD
Will-o-Wisp
Fire Punch
Brick Break
Pain Split

Good switch-in for stuff trying to blow up or CC/BB Blissey. Fire Punch for Heracross who could get a Guts boost from WoW. Also maintains my Stealth Rock, as it stops the opponent coming in and Rapid Spinning.

Shadow sneak takes care of Deoxys, Gengar and friends. I reccommend it over brick break, as fire punch shall take care of steels.

Anyways, bloody well done.


There it is, still needs a few recommendations. Be as harsh as possible. Thanks in advance. :)
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You are aware that Aromapheraphy and Heal Bell does the exact same thing, darkartisan? :) Having that said, always run Aromatheraphy in favor of Heal Bell as Heal Bell is blocked if a Pokémon got a "Soundproof"-trait while Aromatheraphy isn't. Wish and Aromatheraphy (egg-moves in general actually) is illegal, as Wish is an event move, so you'll have to ditch one of the moves.

I'll suggest using Spiritomb in favor of Dusknoir, as it is a better counter to Fighting Pokémon in general. It isn't weak to Crunch, so it will make it easier to handle Lucario. But if you're willing to replace your Ghost/antispinner, a Fighting resist could be an awesome investment and it would solve your huge Heracross weakness.
 
Yeah, I've a lot of experience with Yanmega, and I've seen Scarf Gengars before. If anything, I Protect as soon as I suspect something with a Scarf.

What would you choose for 'Zone? HP Ice or Flash Cannon?

I actually love Gallade, I just didn't think he'd be right for the team, with the lack of speed and whatnot.

What's the difference between Heal Bell and Aromatherapy? I need Wish as Blissey's sorta my Wishpasser, and I believe Wish makes SB obsolete, but I'll look into it further. Natural Cure or Serene Grace? Also, Ice Beam or Seismic Toss?

EDIT: Aromatherapy it is, cheers guys.

I agree.

And yeah, I suppose I could go with Shadow Sneak over it, thanks.

I'm not very experienced with 'Tomb, could you help me out please?

Cheers. :)

See the changes people.



I'm off for the night, so I'll check the changes in the morning. G'night. :)


EDIT: OH NOES!

Looks like I'll need a Wishpasser that can use Aromatherapy. Celebi? I've just realised that when Dusky (If I keep him) fears Dark Pulse, then I can switch to Magnezowns.
 
Oright, but it'd dent them enough right?

Any other recommendations for Dusky's stats?

Also, how about this instead of Heracross?

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Physical Sweeper:
Gallade @ Expert Belt
Adamant w/ Steadfast
64 HP/ 252 Atk/ 192 Spe
Swords Dance/Night Slash/Leaf Blade HELP
Close Combat
Psycho Cut
Shadow Sneak

Comes in on a BB/CC on Blissey, then either SD's up on the switch, or goes for the kill if I don't suspect a switch. Shadow Sneak for faster opponents. I'm having a hard time choosing whether I want SD, Night Slash or Leaf Blade, but I'm thinking of going with SD, though it can OHKO Blissey with max hp/def without an SD. Whaddya think?

I still need something that can Wish, and maybe heal with Aromatherapy too. Would status be a problem in my team? I could use one of these:

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Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Bold w/ Water Absorb
188 HP / 200 Def / 68 SpA / 52 SpD
Wish
Surf
Baton Pass
Substitute

Instead of Blissey. Wish for healing itself and others, Baton Pass to pass subs to stuff, such as Gallade, which helps with SD, and Surf for STAB.
 
Speed is probably the most important stat, a team lacking in speed is going to get punished hard by fast and dangerous sweepers, and don't think these sweepers don't know how to take out walls (eg. Gengar killing Blissey with Explosion = Special walling pink blob of fat is gone)

Ok, on to the team, I don't really favour Yanmega as a lead. He doesn't hit hard enough and dies pretty easily. Swellow would be good, but beware of Scarf users and Aerodactyl.

I have to make an assumption that your team is rather stally, as such I'd recommend CB'ed Gallade. Gallade is more durable than heracross, and hits very hard as well. Matter of preference: Speed vs Durability
 
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