Rate my team that may, some day, rank me #5 on Shoddy (and rising)

Blissey_ODonnell

Brawlex thought that I ought to post this, considering I 3-0'd him twice with it, and he's my tutor.

Swampert @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Impish Nature (+Def, -SpA)
- Stealth Rock
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Avalanche


I decided to use this over a MixPert because this was, simply put, simpler. This typically only sets up Stealth Rocks and revenge-kills Yache-Dancer Garchomp, so I'd like suggestions. Also the closest thing I have to a Heatran "counter".

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
252 HP / 80 Def / 176 Spe
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Wish
- Psychic
- Thunder

Jirachi that isn't Wish/U-Turn/Reflect/Zen Headbutt. Thunder is used over Thunderbolt for that 60% Paralysis rate (before factoring in accuracy, of course). Right now I have Wish, but I'm wondering whether Substitute would be better. Also, this is my weakest link, and I'd like something to replace it, especially something that can absorb status (Brawlex suggested Rest-Talk Heatran).

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spe
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Thunder Wave
- Recover
- Grass Knot
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Gyarados and Garchomp counter. Thunder Wave user #1. This loses to Yache-Dancer Garchomps, which Swampert can come in and Avalanche. I stole the EVs for cleric Celebi for want of a better EV spread. Fairly standard, I suppose.

Togekiss @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
252 HP / 220 SpD / 36 Spe
Calm Nature (+SpD, -Atk)
- Thunder Wave
- Roost
- Nasty Plot
- Air Slash

Thunder Wave user #2. Brawlex suggested this set, but I've found that using only Air Slash leaves me vulnerable to several OU Pokemon like Tyranitar, Jirachi, Heatran, etc.

Infernape @ Choice Band
Trait: Blaze
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Jolly Nature (+Spe, -SpA)
- Flare Blitz
- Close Combat
- ThunderPunch
- U-Turn

People are so enamored with MixApe that they don't realize how powerful this set is. It's like Heracross, but it's not as easy to send out Gliscor and call it a day. U-Turn helps against the Celebi + Heatran walling combination for scouting and massive damage against Celebi if they stay in. However, this is mostly filler. I'm considering replacing it with Weavile for Pursuit.

Heracross @ Life Orb
Trait: Swarm
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Jolly Nature (+Spe, -SpA)
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Megahorn
- Stone Edge

The centerpiece of my team. Heracross is insanely powerful, and can very feasibly sweep with paralysis support. People are surprised when the Pokemon they've EV'd to hit 270 speed is outsped. I've also considered making this an MoPcross.

Rate my team, suggest changes, etc.
 
By looking at it briefly I have noticed MixNape gives your team quite some trouble.
Props for using a Heracross that isnt Choice. Although it isn't fast it can take the appropriate hits.

Ill try the team out a bit and return to give you some feedback.

edit: Going to run BulkyLuke over Jirachi and MixNape over CBNape.
 
I could potentially see opposing Heracrosses giving you some trouble, as the only pokemon that can really take a Close Combat (Celebi) is ripped apart by Megahorn. Another Fighting resist/immune would help here, though I can't think of anything that'd suit your team very well. CBtar could do a fair amount of damage as well since you don't have any truly defensive Dark resists and it comes in fairly easily on Jirachi. Hippowdon over Swampert might cover those (TTar in particular) slightly better, though it doesn't get Avalanche. You don't have anything that can absorb sleep either, it's not required but it certainly helps.

The fact that you don't have a pokemon with a phazing move, DD, or taunt might cause some trouble if something like Ninjask gets in since it can just Sub/Protect and you can't KO it. If you keep heavily on the offensive it isn't a problem, but it's better to be careful as it can really screw you up if an opponent can pull it off.

Other than that, I can't really find many problems, looks good.
 
Hello, anyways shift the 36 from speed to sp. attack on kiss since after a thunder wave you will be faster than them.
 
Brawlex said:
Hello, anyways shift the 36 from speed to sp. attack on kiss since after a thunder wave you will be faster than them.
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I actually think I'll more them to defense.

Also, one attack isn't working out for me. I think Aura Sphere > Nasty Plot, just so I don't get more free Tyranitar and Heatran switch-ins.
 
the best thing om swampert is use Stk and ATk... i think this...
but ive seen so many swampert that only have physical moves, but theyre
good too
 
This team is very sturdy and leading with Swampert usually means you'll be spooking Pokemon away and setting up Stealth Rock. As noobie as I may be I found that he needs Roar since this team has trouble with Stat upping opponents.
The idea to Thunder Wave as many opponents works very well and I find that MoPCross sweeps pretty good with the support of Togekiss and Celebi.
I found that the team ran better with SpecsLuke over Jirachi since it provided you priority in the form of Vacuum Wave to take care of stat uppers and the likes of Weavile. I ran HP Ice over Dragon Pulse since I wanted to get more super effective hits.
MixNape faired better IMO than CBNape did. It does a great job of ridding the team of Steel foes.
The rest was fine from what I saw.
 
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