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Swamp Wall/Swampert @ Lefties
Torrent
250 HP/ 216 DEF/ 42 SP.A
Relaxed
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Earthquake
-Stealth Rock

Pretty usual mix-pert, sets up stealth rocks.


God Star/Starmie @ Dunno :)
Natural Cure
6 HP/ 252 SP.A/ 252 SPE
Timid
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Rapid Spin

I put 252 Sp.A EVs on it because I want to OHKO Skarmory with 1 Thunderbolt. Rapid spins spikes/toxic spikes/stealth rocks away nicely.


Reaper/Dusknoir @ lefties
Pressure
6 HP/ 252 DEF/ 252 SP.D
Sassy
-WoW
-Ice Punch
-Pain Split
-Shadow Sneak


Shiny Drag/Salamence @ Focus Sash
Intimidate
120 HP/ 252 ATT/ 136 SPE
Adamant
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake
-Dragon Claw
-Shadow Claw/Fire Blast

I have hard time choosing should I take Shadow claw to take down Dusknoir pretty easily or Fire blast to 2OHKO Bronzong. And I also put sash on it so it can survive 1 ice beam and sweep.


Rose Masta/Roserade @ Choice Scarf
Natural Cure
6 HP/ 252 SP.A/ 252 SPE
Modest
-Energy Ball
-Shadow Ball
-Sleep Powder
-Sludge Bomb

I put Energy ball over Leaf Storm because I want to continue sweep after I kill 1 pokemon.


Danger Wire/Electivire @ Expert Belt
Motor Drive
6 HP/ 252 ATT/ 252 SPE
Adamant
-Thunder Punch
-Ice Punch
-Cross Chop
-Earthquake

Pretty standard Electivire set.



I also have Taunt-Gyara, just say if i should switch Electivire to it.


Rate it good! :)
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I will help you out pokemon by pokemon and give an overall impression of the team.

Swampert - That is the standard setup I have nothing to add to him.

Starmie - Your team has a problem with a Mixed Infernape carrying Hidden Power: Ice/Grass Knot/Flamethrower/Close Combat. I would suggest using the "Counter Star" setup listed in the analysis to give you a solid wall against Infernape. With the "Counter Star" setup I would recommend Life Orb though. Life Orb gives you enough extra boost to your attacks so Bulky Gyarados will always be 1HKO by your Thunderbolt, and you can catch some Tyranitar's by surprise with the ability to 2HKO them with the Life Orb Surf. The Counter Star lists Recover and I would highly recommend you find a spot for it on your setup. Rapid Spin is always nice, but Toxic Spikes aren't a problem for your team because of Roserade being able to suck them up. Its tough to limit Starmie to 4 moves, but I would consider the analysis Counter Star set.

Dusknoir - His HP is so poor you should put 252 HP EV's before any Defense/Special Defense EV's. The setup should be 252 HP, then 252 into Defense/Special Defense as you want them to maximize your walling efficiency.

Salamence - Focus Sash is really useless on him I feel. You have no way to stop a Sandstorm so if the other team uses Hippowdon or Tyranitar then your Salamence's item is useless. Tyranitar and Hippowdon are both top 30 pokemon in terms of usage (at least I think Hippowdon is top 30, Tyranitar is top 5!). Hoping they don't appear seems kind of silly. If you want to take an Ice Beam and potentially survive I would use the item Yache Berry then.

Roserade - I would say over Sludge Bomb you might want to use Hidden Power: Ice for better type coverage, but that is your call.

Electivire - That is the standard physical setup. I would recommend trying the Special Setup sometime as I find it more effective, but that set seems fine for now.

Overall the team seems ok. Some slight adjustments will help you. Some of the main threats you have covered decently - Starmie/Swampert/Dusknoir can help with Garchomp, Swampert can deal with Tyranitar.. However Lucario and Gengar are big problems for this team, and of course totally opposite types of pokemon. A physically defensive Dusknoir can handle Lucario without Crunch. Gengar.. you have no real answers unfortunately. You might want to fit some sort of special wall into the team as not only Gengar is a problem but the standard Azelf, Yanmega, opposing Starmies, special Lucario's all give you trouble.
 
Gaborik said:
I will help you out pokemon by pokemon and give an overall impression of the team.

Swampert - That is the standard setup I have nothing to add to him.

Starmie - Your team has a problem with a Mixed Infernape carrying Hidden Power: Ice/Grass Knot/Flamethrower/Close Combat. I would suggest using the "Counter Star" setup listed in the analysis to give you a solid wall against Infernape. With the "Counter Star" setup I would recommend Life Orb though. Life Orb gives you enough extra boost to your attacks so Bulky Gyarados will always be 1HKO by your Thunderbolt, and you can catch some Tyranitar's by surprise with the ability to 2HKO them with the Life Orb Surf. The Counter Star lists Recover and I would highly recommend you find a spot for it on your setup. Rapid Spin is always nice, but Toxic Spikes aren't a problem for your team because of Roserade being able to suck them up. Its tough to limit Starmie to 4 moves, but I would consider the analysis Counter Star set. My Starmie is faster than Infernape... -.-

Dusknoir - His HP is so poor you should put 252 HP EV's before any Defense/Special Defense EV's. The setup should be 252 HP, then 252 into Defense/Special Defense as you want them to maximize your walling efficiency. I got my dusknoir in trade(for any natured sneasel >.<) and I don't feel like getting 260 berrys(I don't remember name) to get it Re-EVd, Besides, Dusknoir deals more dmg to opponents with no HP Evs...

Salamence - Focus Sash is really useless on him I feel. You have no way to stop a Sandstorm so if the other team uses Hippowdon or Tyranitar then your Salamence's item is useless. Tyranitar and Hippowdon are both top 30 pokemon in terms of usage (at least I think Hippowdon is top 30, Tyranitar is top 5!). Hoping they don't appear seems kind of silly. If you want to take an Ice Beam and potentially survive I would use the item Yache Berry then.
Sash Works better in my opinion.

Roserade - I would say over Sludge Bomb you might want to use Hidden Power: Ice for better type coverage, but that is your call.
Hidden power... I don't feel like breeding 1000 modest roselias to get 1 with HP Ice +60 O_o

Electivire - That is the standard physical setup. I would recommend trying the Special Setup sometime as I find it more effective, but that set seems fine for now. I was thinkin about the special too, I have 1 but I think Physical is more effective against Gliscor.

Overall the team seems ok. Some slight adjustments will help you. Some of the main threats you have covered decently - Starmie/Swampert/Dusknoir can help with Garchomp, Swampert can deal with Tyranitar.. However Lucario and Gengar are big problems for this team, and of course totally opposite types of pokemon. A physically defensive Dusknoir can handle Lucario without Crunch. Gengar.. you have no real answers unfortunately. You might want to fit some sort of special wall into the team as not only Gengar is a problem but the standard Azelf, Yanmega, opposing Starmies, special Lucario's all give you trouble.
[Roserade is scarfed and it has Shadow ball, so it can take care of Gengar. And Swampert can handle Lucario easily, because most Lucarios have life orb instead of Sash...]
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Electivire doesn't really fit well with your team. You don't need another TW/electric attack absorber since you have Swampert and Roserade. I would replace him with a bulky fighter; Machamp comes to mind. He can help you deal with Tyranitar. Also the confusion rate from Dynamic punch can be helpful.
 
n3ther said:
Electivire doesn't really fit well with your team. You don't need another TW/electric attack absorber since you have Swampert and Roserade. I would replace him with a bulky fighter; Machamp comes to mind. He can help you deal with Tyranitar. Also the confusion rate from Dynamic punch can be helpful.
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Could Taunt-Gyara be a good replacement for Electivire?
 
I would advise that you familiarize yourself with the RMT rules first. For reference, here is the rule in question in this instance:

3. Have some actual words in your post beyond your six Pokemon and their moves. Not following this makes your post quite boring to read and rate. All Pokemon should have a good reason for being in your team anyway, so why not post that reason? If you're having trouble with this one, start by give an explanation for each team member. Why are they there? What role do they serve? How do you get them in? Then, give an explanation of how you would open with the team and how you would go about using it. All of these things help people rate your team and allow us to offer more helpful advice.

This does not mean add one sentence saying "Standard x" or "all-around awesome" after each Pokemon. If you put thought into making the team, you can put thought into posting it.
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The rules may be found here, but should be fairly obvious regardless since they are a sticky in this subforum. Please put a bit more thought into your RMT thread next time - you are free to create another once you've done so. Be thankful for the advice you've been given until then, and please actually give some of it a chance!
 
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