rate my ubers team (no its not toast!)

what do you think of my team?

  • this is a great team keep up with the great work!

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • its very good and needs little improvment

    Votes: 4 40.0%
  • its medicore at best need more improvment

    Votes: 3 30.0%
  • its bad,i hope you make a better RMT thread in the future

    Votes: 2 20.0%

  • Total voters
    10
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i cant really comment much about this team.its an all out offensive team which is designed to sweep just like any other

note that this is the first attempt for an RMT and i hope i can improve my RMTs in the future!
changes in bold
team at a glance
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(i cant find the deoxys-s sprite <.<)

now on to the team!

the lead
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deoxys-s@focus sash
abilty:pressure
EVs:6 def/252 attack/252 speed
nature:jolly
-stealth rock
-spikes
-extremespeed
-taunt
deoxys-s is such a great lead,because of its abilty to outspeed most leads and this one takes full advantage of outspeeding,taunt means that most of my team wont worry about entry hazards(unless if the foes deoxys-s won the speed tie),it can then safely lay out some stealth rocks,or top it off with a layer of spikes or attack with extremespeed
why did i choose this moveset/Ev spread
the evs are pretty straight forward,252 attack allows me to do decent amount of damge against other leads while the 252 speed is obivous,as it allows me to outspeed other leads (or tie with opposing deoxys-s at worst)
while the 6 def is for bulk

stealth rocks,spikes and taunt are staples to any deoxys lead but why extremespeed,it allows me to destroy opposting deoxys leads if i didnt won the speed tie and thus get taunted preventing me to lay entry hazards,extremespeed is also the only other thing to do apart from switching after deoxys has done his job

the physical sweeper
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rayquaza@life orb
ability:air lock
evs:32 hp/252 attack/216 speed
nature:adamant
-dragon dance
-outrage
-earthquake
-overheat
rayquaza is my main physical mid and late game sweeper,its sheer power combined with a diverse movepool makes rayquaza a great pokemon for the role of physical sweeping

the objective of this set is simple:set up dragon dance on something that rayquaza can force out or it can set up on then sweep with outrage,should a fortress comes and blast me away with gyro balls,make him pay with overheat,should a palkia come and sweep most of the team,blast it away with rayquazas STAB outrage
why did i choose that moveset/ev spread?
the ev spread combines power with a little bulk,32 hp evs gives rayquazas rather decent HP a stat of 359 which allows it to take most unboosted netrual attacks with ease,252 attack evs are for obivous reasons as no one will enjoy boosted outrages coming from 439 attack.

i made a comparision between SDrayquaza and DD rayquaza ,
SD rayquaza is deadly with extremespeed but rayquaza really needs the extra speed to sweep so dd was the superior option,outrage+dd is a staple on any DD rayquaza ,earthquake allows me to take on diagla as well as other steels who can come in on my outrages,overheat is mainly for forttress and scizor but it can prove useful to aim at there lower sp def stat

the boosting special sweeper
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darkrai@life orb
ability:bad dreams
Evs:4 hp/252 sp.attack/252 speed
nature:modest
-nasty plot
-dark void
-dark pulse
-thunder/focus blast
this is my boosting special sweeper,once was giratina-o but dark void solves the problem of drakrais bad ,fragile defenses .darkrai is my uber gengar,its unperdictable thanks to its huge movepool

darkrai can use its base 349 speed to rest the foe then start boosting with nasty plot,then it can throw its choice of dark pulse or thunder/focus blast i was gonna opt for thunder but focus blast destroys steels,i eed help on this one
why did i choose this moveset /ev spread?
darkrais evs are simple for a sweeper it doesnt matter of its bulk as its fast enough to forget about the low defenses,he has to worry more about his pokemon anyway,the 252 sp attack/252 speed evs allows me to take advantage of darkrai and its power to the fullest extent

im having trouble in the last move slot,while nasty plot dark pulse and dark void are all staples
the secondary physical sweeper
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scizor@choice band
ability:technition
evs:248 HP/56 attack/206 sp defense
nature:adamant
-prisuit
-bullet punch
-u-turn
-superpower
if rayquaza faints out comes scizor!the king of OU marches to uber ,and also takes advantage of scizors famed yet underestimated bulk

this set allows more freedom when comparing to the choice band set but at the cost of 1 turn,again its simple:switch it on something that it can take hits with ease,then i can blast them away with its choice of superpower/ bullet,it can leave a painful bump at the end with u-turn or destroy those pesky switching physchics or ghosts with prisuit
why did i choose this moveset/ev spread?
the evs are for the standard Choice band set,248 hp and 208 sp def gives scizor the extra bulk it needs to sweep,while 56 attack gives some power

the move set is pretty staple for a choice band set. i am trying to consider x-scissor over u-turn,because of the extra power hmm i guess i need help on this one too
the mixed sweeper
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palkia@lustrous orb
ability:pressure
evs:4 attack/252 sp attack/252 speed
nature:hasty
-spacial rend
-surf
-aqua tail
-thunder
this is my wall breaker and is deadly with kyroge support the power of rain danced boosted surfs is not to be tolrated at all,coming from 399 sp.attack
palkia is a monster

lustrous orb gives palkias STAB moves an even further boost,the good thing about it is that i dont suffer life orb recolis it also allows palkia to sweep more freely without worrying about the recoil
why did i choose this moveset/ev spread?
the evs are straight forward,palkias 328 speed allows it to outspeed most sweepers,although garchomp can get annoying,the 252 sp attack means that mr palkia gets 399 sp.attack(it was so close to 400 through!)the 4 attack evs is for aqua tail

speaking of aqua tail,aqua tail is used for bilssey and other special wall that tries to even dare to stall palkia the others are staple so no need to explain the rest(i just wished we had hydra pump palkia today!)

the special wall breaker
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kyorge@choice specs
ability:drizzle
evs:4 hp/252 speed/252 sp attack
nature:modest
-water sprout
-surf
-ice beam
-thunder
ahh,at last we reach the big bomb,kyroges water sprouts are so deadly it 2HKOs even bilssey!so prepare to reach kyroges mighty wrath or else be destroyed by boosted water sprouts

why did i choose this moveset/ev spread?
the ev spread needs some thinking,i went with the basic 4 hp/252 sp attack/ 252 speed ev spread but if i want to keep my water sprouts power while still maintaining some bulk in exchange of power i think i was goining with this ev spread:30hp/10 def/252 sp.attack/216 speed(well not power but speed)but i dont know really(your free to post your own!)

the moves doesnt need that much explaining this move set is the staple of any but ill post some anyway ill maybe change this to CMkyorge but i dont know

 
threat list

black=normal orange = hard to counter red=almost impossable


bilssey=lol everyone has a way to counter this thing
darkrai:its a bit hard to counter if it gets a nasty plot boost,or if it puts a important member to rest,other than that scizor can handle it easily but it has to watch out for boosted thunders
deoxys:scizor can counter it (aussuming it doesnt have fire punch)deoxys-s can also extremespeed his fragile defenses
deoxys-a=again scizors bullet punch and deoxys-s extreme speeds can finish it
deoxys-d=lol one of the biggest taunt baits in the world,scizor can set up on it,deoxys-s can taunt,and darkrai can sleep it then throw dark pulses at it
deoxys-s=even if i lost the speed tie darkrai can kill it with dark pulse unless it has superpower,i also have scizor to handle it ,as it can take superpowers and throw bullet punches at it
dialgla=scizor superpowers it,kyorge can take a hit and can throw ice beams at it(unless if its a sp.defensivly diagla)
garchomp:i hate scarfchomps soooo much,kyorge can take a hit and throw ice beams at it but it wont enjoy STAB outrages
giratina=scizor can throw bullet punches but must watch out for Will-o-wisp
rayquaza can also set up on it as it can withsand most attacks from it
giratina-o=calm mind variants are stopped by taunt deoxys-s,while scizor can throw bullet punches at it
groudon,this giant monster of death is pubilc enemy #1 it ruins my rain dance palkia sweeps and throw dragon claws at it,if kyorges done fore then im screwed
ho-oh=palkia and kyorge can destroy it with ease
kyorge=i can send in my own kyroge and throw thunders at it as can palkia but other than that if its speced im doomed
latios=kyorge can make dispose of it with ice beam its scizor bait unless its carrying hp fire,darkrai can destroy it with dark pulse
latias=see above
lugia=kyorge can throw ice beams at it,palkia can throw thunders,while scizor walls it
lucario =scizor can deal with it
manaphy=it can take advantage of kyorges drizzle but even then palkia can land a thunder on it scizor is also good for this,it can threaten it with u-turn/superpower
mew=darkrai can destroy it ,deoxys-s can taunt baton passing variants
mewtwo=again darkrai can outspeed and ko with dark pulse
palkia=kyorges thunders will hurt but other than that nothing much
rayquaza=scizor can wall any non overheat variant,deoxys-s can taunt it to prevent any dd/sd sweeps/palka can outspeed and ko with spacial rend
shaymin-s=this hax machine is a bit hard to counter but once it kills something kyorge can ice beam it,scizor is also good against anything with out hp fire
scizor=rayquaza with overheat.period
wobbufet=its also the biggest taunt bait,anything can set up on it if it gets taunted not much of a threat at all

so thats it rate/hate steal :D







 
Great Team >:D

One thing I noticed that I thought could be improved a lot would be Scizor.

First of all, since this is a SD set, i recommend life orb or expert belt on Scizor. Also, there is this fantastic set for Scizor which really shines in the Uber tier:

Scizor
@ Life Orb/ Expert Belt/Leftovers
Trait: Technicain
Adamant Nature
EVs: 176HP, 100Atk, 176Sp.Def, 56 Speed

~Bullet Punch
~Pursuit/Double Hit
~U-Turn
~Roost

The given EVs allows Scizor a balance of offense and defense. With the Special Defense EVs, Scizor has the ability to switch into Dragon and Dark Pulses from Latias and Darkrai, respectively. Scizor must be aware of Latias in the rain as a boosted Thunder will 2HKO Scizor. With only one weakness, it is easy for Scizor to step into many of these threats and force them to switch out. This makes Roost an excellent option to recover damage from switching in and out or from constant Life Orb recoil. The 100 Attack EVs will OHKO standard Mewtwo, Latias, and Darkrai most of the time with U-turn unless they invest a ridiculous amount of EVs in their HP and Defense stats. Bullet Punch will hamper not only Deoxys-A, but also Darkrai since it resists Pursuit anyway. Also, the speed Evs will outspeed Shedinja >:D
 
Also, just a nitpick. But with your Darkrai since you are boosting it's SpA with Nasty Plot, it's probably best to go with a Timid nature to get the jump on random scarfed pokemon, leaving you at 383 speed. A nice number in Ubers.
 
Alright.

-Deoxys is Deoxys. However, you say you have issues with Scarfchomp. Rayquaza and SD Lucario also look like they will tear you apart if they set up. I would change your Deoxys to a Lead Groudon:

move 1: Thunder Wave
move 2: Stealth Rock
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Dragon Claw
item: Lum Berry
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 60 Atk / 136 Def / 60 SpD

EVs let you survive any boosted hit from Luke, Ray, Chomp, or other Groudon and either cripple them with TWave or KO then with your attacks. Lum Berry also allows you to absorb Darkrai's sleep and cripple it with TWave.

-What do the HP EV's for Rayquaza do? Just put them into speed. I would also switch to a Jolly Nature so you can't be revenged killed by base 90 Speed scarfers like Dialga, especially since you aren't running Extremespeed.

-Darkrai's nature should be Timid. It really, really needs the extra speed, and Modest won't help it get any notable OHKOs, I think.

-I really don't think SD Scizor is helping you much, and you also lack a reliable revenge killer to Garchomp and Rayquaza. I would just make Scizor the standard Choice Band set and to change your EVs to 248 HP/56 Atk/ 206 S Def. EV's let you 2HKO most Ray and Chomp while also letting you Latias's and Latios's attacks easier.

-Palkia, now that you have the sun, needs a moveset change:

move 1: Aqua Tail
move 2: Spacial Rend
move 3: Outrage
move 4: Fire Blast
item: Lustrous Orb
nature: Hasty
evs: 252 Atk / 6 SpA / 252 Spe

Aqua Tail's 2HKO on Bliss just went to an OHKO, and Outrage still OHKO her if Rain isn't up. Outrage also 2HKOes even bulky Kyogre variants. Fire Blast takes out any Steels that might impede Rayquaza and Darkrai. Imo this is a better stallbreaker than the set you have now that you have both weathers on your team.

-Kyogre is fine, but you lack a reliable RP Groudon and Darkrai counter, since Scizor can't take a +2 Focus Blast after Spikes+SR. I would consider changing Kyogre to this, since you already have a wallbreaker:

move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Rest
move 3: Sleep Talk
move 4: Surf
item: Leftovers
nature: Modest
EVs: 240 HP / 244 Def / 24 Spe

EV's let you easily take RP DOn's EQ and OHKO back with Surf. Sleep Talk + Surf + base 140 Sp. Def means that you can also take on Darkrai quite easily. Kyogre will also live longer to keep the rain aroung longer.

That is all I see for now. Good Luck.
 
i would run timid on kyogre just for the sake of having the 2hko on other variants of kyogre, dialga and groudon that don`t run max speed.(Or getting a speed tie.) If you want it to break through blissey and hit hard i`d suggest this ev spread.

244 hp 240 spa 24 spe
Or you could go with fireburn`s set above me
 
Alright.

-Deoxys is Deoxys. However, you say you have issues with Scarfchomp. Rayquaza and SD Lucario also look like they will tear you apart if they set up. I would change your Deoxys to a Lead Groudon:

move 1: Thunder Wave
move 2: Stealth Rock
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Dragon Claw
item: Lum Berry
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 60 Atk / 136 Def / 60 SpD

EVs let you survive any boosted hit from Luke, Ray, Chomp, or other Groudon and either cripple them with TWave or KO then with your attacks. Lum Berry also allows you to absorb Darkrai's sleep and cripple it with TWave.

-What do the HP EV's for Rayquaza do? Just put them into speed. I would also switch to a Jolly Nature so you can't be revenged killed by base 90 Speed scarfers like Dialga, especially since you aren't running Extremespeed.

-Darkrai's nature should be Timid. It really, really needs the extra speed, and Modest won't help it get any notable OHKOs, I think.

-I really don't think SD Scizor is helping you much, and you also lack a reliable revenge killer to Garchomp and Rayquaza. I would just make Scizor the standard Choice Band set and to change your EVs to 248 HP/56 Atk/ 206 S Def. EV's let you 2HKO most Ray and Chomp while also letting you Latias's and Latios's attacks easier.

-Palkia, now that you have the sun, needs a moveset change:

move 1: Aqua Tail
move 2: Spacial Rend
move 3: Outrage
move 4: Fire Blast
item: Lustrous Orb
nature: Hasty
evs: 252 Atk / 6 SpA / 252 Spe

Aqua Tail's 2HKO on Bliss just went to an OHKO, and Outrage still OHKO her if Rain isn't up. Outrage also 2HKOes even bulky Kyogre variants. Fire Blast takes out any Steels that might impede Rayquaza and Darkrai. Imo this is a better stallbreaker than the set you have now that you have both weathers on your team.

-Kyogre is fine, but you lack a reliable RP Groudon and Darkrai counter, since Scizor can't take a +2 Focus Blast after Spikes+SR. I would consider changing Kyogre to this, since you already have a wallbreaker:

move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Rest
move 3: Sleep Talk
move 4: Surf
item: Leftovers
nature: Modest
EVs: 240 HP / 244 Def / 24 Spe

EV's let you easily take RP DOn's EQ and OHKO back with Surf. Sleep Talk + Surf + base 140 Sp. Def means that you can also take on Darkrai quite easily. Kyogre will also live longer to keep the rain aroung longer.

That is all I see for now. Good Luck.
ill try these suggestions out thanks
edit=349 speed is really enough for darkai to outpace most in the metagame put them to sleep,then start boosting

and no one still didnt find a move for the last slot of darkrai
 
For Darkrai, maximum Speed ensures that it ties with other Darkrai at worst, so they can't revenge kill you (Speed Tie), and outruns Latios, Latias, and Modest Mewtwo. Focus Blast is preferable in the last slot so that you are not walled by TTar and Dialga. Thunder is only good for Kyogre, which you have covered.
 
For Darkrai, maximum Speed ensures that it ties with other Darkrai at worst, so they can't revenge kill you (Speed Tie), and outruns Latios, Latias, and Modest Mewtwo. Focus Blast is preferable in the last slot so that you are not walled by TTar and Dialga. Thunder is only good for Kyogre, which you have covered.
hmm ill try that out thanks
 
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