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[SET]
name: Reflect
move 1: Double-Edge
move 2: Reflect
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]

Although it's generally worse than Fearow, Pidgeot has the unique niche of being one of the best long-term answers to RestTalk Stantler and Dugtrio, giving it a strong place on balance and some offense teams. Pidgeot is faster than Stantler, immune to Earthquake, can set up Reflect to take minimal damage from Return, keeps itself healthy with Rest and Sleep Talk, and easily 3HKOes with Double-Edge. Double-Edge can also 3HKO several other common Pokemon like Xatu and Octillery and does solid chip damage to Weezing and Dewgong. While Dugtrio is faster than Pidgeot and can break through it with Substitute and Screech, it has to rely on Pidgeot not calling Double-Edge, since it is 2HKOed by Double-Edge and Rock Slide is only a 4HKO in return. Reflect also helps Pidgeot's teammates handle common switch-ins to it such as Graveler and Sudowoodo, and it can make Pidgeot a decent emergency switch-in to Fearow.

Fearow is the single biggest reason to not use Pidgeot, as it's much faster and stronger and has Drill Peck. Importantly, Pidgeot is an ineffective check to Primeape because it’s slower and can only 3HKO, whereas Fearow outspeeds and threatens to 2HKO it. Without Drill Peck, Pidgeot also can’t 2HKO Pineco, though it can set up Reflect on a predicted use of Explosion. The fact that Pidgeot only runs one attacking move also means it's liable to call non-damaging moves when using Sleep Talk.

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BeeOrSomething said:
[SET]
name: Reflect
move 1: Double-Edge
move 2: Reflect
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]

Although generally worse than Fearow, Pidgeot has the unique niche of being one of the best answers to RestTalk Stantler and Dugtrio long-term. Pidgeot is faster than Stantler, immune to Earthquake, can set Reflect to take minimal damage from Return, keeps itself healthy with RestTalk, and easily 3HKOes with Double-Edge. Dugtrio is faster than Pidgeot and can break through with Substitute and Screech, but it has to rely on poor Sleep Talk pulls since it is 2HKOed by Double-Edge and Rock Slide is only a 4HKO. Reflect also helps Pidgeot's teammates handle common switch-ins to Pidgeot such as Graveler and Sudowoodo, and it can make Pidgeot a decent emergency switch-in to Fearow. (I would talk about Pidgeot’s decent Attacking power, it can 3 or 4HKO most of the tier and has good speed.)

Pidgeot largely struggles with similar issues to Fearow, made worse by its own competition with Fearow. Fearow is the single biggest reason to not use Pidgeot, as it's much faster and stronger and has Drill Peck. Importantly, Pidgeot is an ineffective check to Primeape, whereas Fearow outspeeds and threatens to 2HKO. Pidgeot only running one attacking move also means it's very liable to do nothing while asleep and using Sleep Talk. (I would finish this off with something like “Regardless, Pidgeot’s ability to answer the prominent and dangerous RestTalk Stantler is a compelling reason
to use it on balance and defensive teams”)
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What a bird-brained analysis :zonger:
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[SET]
name: Reflect
move 1: Double-Edge
move 2: Reflect
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]

Although it's generally worse than Fearow, Pidgeot has the unique niche of being one of the best long-term answers to RestTalk Stantler and Dugtrio long-term, giving it a strong place on balance and some offense teams. Pidgeot is faster than Stantler, immune to Earthquake, can set up Reflect to take minimal damage from Return, keeps itself healthy with RestTalk Rest and Sleep Talk, and easily 3HKOes with Double-Edge. Double-Edge can also 3HKO several other common Pokemon like Xatu and Octillery and does solid chip damage to Weezing and Dewgong. While Dugtrio is faster than Pidgeot and can break through it with Substitute and Screech, but it has to rely on poor Sleep Talk pulls from Pidgeot since it is 2HKOed by Double-Edge and Rock Slide is only a 4HKO. Reflect also helps Pidgeot's teammates handle common switch-ins to Pidgeot it such as Graveler and Sudowoodo, and it can make Pidgeot a decent emergency switch-in to Fearow.

Pidgeot largely struggles with similar issues to Fearow, made worse by its own competition with Fearow. (this doesn't really add anything that the other sentences don't cover well enough) Fearow is the single biggest reason to not use Pidgeot, as it's much faster and stronger and has Drill Peck. Importantly, Pidgeot is an ineffective check to Primeape, whereas Fearow outspeeds and threatens to 2HKO it. Without Drill Peck, Pidgeot also can’t 2HKO Pineco, though it can set up Reflect on a predicted use of Explosion. Pidgeot only running one attacking move also means it's liable to do nothing while asleep and using Sleep Talk get unlucky with Sleep Talk pulls. (this last one is more of a suggestion than a real change, I just feel like this illustrates your point better while also sounding/reading better)

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fr tho you're doing great work bee
 
StupidFlandrs48 said:
What a bird-brained analysis :zonger:
Additions Removals Comment/silly nitpicks

[SET]
name: Reflect
move 1: Double-Edge
move 2: Reflect
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]

Although it's generally worse than Fearow, Pidgeot has the unique niche of being one of the best long-term answers to RestTalk Stantler and Dugtrio long-term, giving it a strong place on balance and some offense teams. Pidgeot is faster than Stantler, immune to Earthquake, can set up Reflect to take minimal damage from Return, keeps itself healthy with RestTalk Rest and Sleep Talk, and easily 3HKOes with Double-Edge. Double-Edge can also 3HKO several other common Pokemon like Xatu and Octillery and does solid chip damage to Weezing and Dewgong. While Dugtrio is faster than Pidgeot and can break through it with Substitute and Screech, but it has to rely on poor Sleep Talk pulls from Pidgeot since it is 2HKOed by Double-Edge and Rock Slide is only a 4HKO. Reflect also helps Pidgeot's teammates handle common switch-ins to Pidgeot it such as Graveler and Sudowoodo, and it can make Pidgeot a decent emergency switch-in to Fearow.

Pidgeot largely struggles with similar issues to Fearow, made worse by its own competition with Fearow. (this doesn't really add anything that the other sentences don't cover well enough) Fearow is the single biggest reason to not use Pidgeot, as it's much faster and stronger and has Drill Peck. Importantly, Pidgeot is an ineffective check to Primeape, whereas Fearow outspeeds and threatens to 2HKO it. Without Drill Peck, Pidgeot also can’t 2HKO Pineco, though it can set up Reflect on a predicted use of Explosion. Pidgeot only running one attacking move also means it's liable to do nothing while asleep and using Sleep Talk get unlucky with Sleep Talk pulls. (this last one is more of a suggestion than a real change, I just feel like this illustrates your point better while also sounding/reading better)

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fr tho you're doing great work bee
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[SET]
name: Reflect
move 1: Double-Edge
move 2: Reflect
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]

Although it's generally worse than Fearow, Pidgeot has the unique niche of being one of the best long-term answers to RestTalk Stantler and Dugtrio, giving it a strong place on balance and some offense teams. Pidgeot is faster than Stantler, is immune to Earthquake, can set up Reflect to take minimal damage from Return, keeps itself healthy with Rest and Sleep Talk, and easily 3HKOes with Double-Edge. Double-Edge can also 3HKO several other common Pokemon like Xatu and Octillery and does solid chip damage to Weezing and Dewgong. While Dugtrio is faster than Pidgeot and can break through it with Substitute and Screech, it has to rely on poor Sleep Talk pulls from pidgeot Pidgeot not calling Double-Edge, (AC) since it is 2HKOed by Double-Edge and Rock Slide is only a 4HKO in return. Reflect also helps Pidgeot's teammates handle common switch-ins to it such as Graveler and Sudowoodo, and it can make Pidgeot a decent emergency switch-in to Fearow.

Fearow is the single biggest reason to not use Pidgeot, as it's much faster and stronger and has Drill Peck. Importantly, Pidgeot is an ineffective check to Primeape, (AC) because it’s slower and can only 3HKO (Consulted in Discord DMs), whereas Fearow outspeeds and threatens to 2HKO it. Without Drill Peck, Pidgeot also can’t 2HKO Pineco, though it can set up Reflect on a predicted use of Explosion. The fact that Pidgeot only running runs one attacking move also means it's liable to get unlucky with Sleep Talk pulls call non-damaging moves when using Sleep Talk.

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bzzzzz
GP Team done
 
Tbolt said:
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[SET]
name: Reflect
move 1: Double-Edge
move 2: Reflect
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]

Although it's generally worse than Fearow, Pidgeot has the unique niche of being one of the best long-term answers to RestTalk Stantler and Dugtrio, giving it a strong place on balance and some offense teams. Pidgeot is faster than Stantler, is immune to Earthquake, can set up Reflect to take minimal damage from Return, keeps itself healthy with Rest and Sleep Talk, and easily 3HKOes with Double-Edge. Double-Edge can also 3HKO several other common Pokemon like Xatu and Octillery and does solid chip damage to Weezing and Dewgong. While Dugtrio is faster than Pidgeot and can break through it with Substitute and Screech, it has to rely on poor Sleep Talk pulls from pidgeot Pidgeot not calling Double-Edge, (AC) since it is 2HKOed by Double-Edge and Rock Slide is only a 4HKO in return. Reflect also helps Pidgeot's teammates handle common switch-ins to it such as Graveler and Sudowoodo, and it can make Pidgeot a decent emergency switch-in to Fearow.

Fearow is the single biggest reason to not use Pidgeot, as it's much faster and stronger and has Drill Peck. Importantly, Pidgeot is an ineffective check to Primeape, (AC) because it’s slower and can only 3HKO (Consulted in Discord DMs), whereas Fearow outspeeds and threatens to 2HKO it. Without Drill Peck, Pidgeot also can’t 2HKO Pineco, though it can set up Reflect on a predicted use of Explosion. The fact that Pidgeot only running runs one attacking move also means it's liable to get unlucky with Sleep Talk pulls call non-damaging moves when using Sleep Talk.

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Written by:
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