Regirock Discussion

Phuquoph

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I searched for a Regirock thread, surprisingly there wasn't one. Even a really old one.

Physical Movepool

Stone Edge
Rock Slide
Arm Hammer
Focus Punch
Superpower
Drain Punch
Explosion
Ice/Thunder/Fire Punch (via Emerald tutor)
Earthquake
Hurl

Stone Edge is great, as is Arm Hammer and Ice Punch is for those pesky Dragons. Hurling a Black Steel Orb at Cresselia sounds fun too.

Support Movepool

Stealth Rock
Thunder Wave
Rock Cart
Curse
Iron Defense
Psych Up
Safeguard
Counter (via Emerald tutor)

His general sturdiness could make him a good candidate for Stealth Rock. Thunder Wave, Curse and Counter are all excellent moves for him too.

Damage Calculations

Here's a few sample calculations, they're all for a Max HP, 480 Defense, 299 Attack Regirock

Tyranitar Adamant CB Crunch does 30 - 35%
Tyranitar Adamant CB Stone Edge does 38 - 44%

Max HP, Adamant, 60 HP EVs Tyranitar

Regirock Arm Hammer does 96 - 100%

Not bad at all. CB Earthquakes screw Regirock up though.

Gyarados Adamant DD Waterfall does 58 - 67%
Gyarados Adamant DD Earthquake does 48 - 55%

Regirock Stone Edge does 85 - 100% (assuming max HP Gyarados)

Not a guaranteed OHKO, but still good. Any Gyarados without Waterfall cannot guarantee a 2HKO on Regirock.

Movesets

Regirock @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Stone Edge
- Arm Hammer
- Thunder Wave
- Explosion/Ice Punch/Stealth Rock

Paralyze what you can, throwing out Stone Edge and Arm Hammer as neccessary. Explode when you're done, hit Garchomp on the switch with Ice Punch or support the team with Stealth Rock.

Regirock @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Stone Edge
- Arm Hammer
- Curse
- Counter

Curse up and Counter In Fights and Earthquakes back in your opponents face.

Regirock @ Life Orb
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Stone Edge
- Arm Hammer

Quite durable. 299 Special Defense, 480 Defense and 306 Attack with Life Orb is pretty good.

His main competition seems to be Rhyperior. But bear in mind Regirock has good special defense and has an easier time taking on Gyarados.

So what are your thoughts on the pile of rubble?
 
I feel that he just has too many weaknesses to make him a great pokemon like in ADV. If I were to use him, I would probably go with the Twave set since it could be very useful in some situations and since the metagame is very offensive, Twave is a very helpful move. (which makes blissey even more popular, yay) Now a lot of the special sweepers like gengy, alakazam, etc get moves like grass rope, energy ball, focus bomb (god knows if this thing will ever hit, but for some reason, people never miss with this vs me) Those moves certainly make it a lot harder for regirock to survive. I think that cursing is just not nearly as good as it used to be, considering you could just Swords dance and try and sweep instead of wait for the manaphy to come in and ruin your fun. Leave cursing to curselax.
 
Stone Edge is a major factor in Regirock's use. I believe his talents as a wall are often overlooked due to Skarmory's better resistances; however, few understand that Regirock's specialities lie in the fact that it can status and attack the opposing team as well as defend. With threat of Explosion, no many Pokemon can switch into it; Gachomp fears potential Ice Punches, and Swampert doesn't want to risk getting boomed on.
 
How about physical sweeping Regirock?

Regirock @ Life Orb
Clear Body
Adamant nature
- Rock Cart
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Arm Hammer

Yes, it's lol, but it'd be one hell of a surprise. Who expects a frigging Regirock to outspeed everything? Arm Hammer may lower Spd, that's why you Rock Cart again after using it twice! =P

That's gotta be worth points for creativity.
 
He's a bit too easily walled by the likes of Donphan to attempt a sweep. The only thing I'd bother using Rock Cart for is to get a fast Explosion.
 
Darn, DoubleX beat me to it.

Regirock@Leftovers or Lifeorb
Adamant, 248 spd, 252 atk, 10 hp
Rock Cart
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Explosion


Grass Rope, among other things, equals death.
He won't be used that much more than in ADV. Rock Cart does help though.
 
Phuquoph said:
He's a bit too easily walled by the likes of Donphan to attempt a sweep. The only thing I'd bother using Rock Cart for is to get a fast Explosion.
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If he's walled by Donphan he's walled by Hippowdon even more. Hmm...

OK then, how about this:

Regirock @ Leftovers/Life Orb
Clear Body
Adamant nature
EVs: Max Atk, max Spd, rest in HP
- Rock Cart
- Explosion
- Thunder Wave
- Stone Edge

Thunder Wave something, Rock Cart on the switch. If it's a major threat (probably Blissey), Explode. If it's not a major threat and doesn't resist Rock, Stone Edge it. If it resists Rock and you don't want to Explode on it, switch to something that can deal with it. At this point, if you've blown up on Blissey, they've got something paralysed that can't fix itself now, and you're free to go nuts with something like Azelf or Raikou. Basically, you can use this to eliminate counters for your stuff on your opponent's team.
 
DoubleX said:
Yes, it's lol, but it'd be one hell of a surprise. Who expects a frigging Regirock to outspeed everything? Arm Hammer may lower Spd, that's why you Rock Cart again after using it twice!
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Or, if you want to outspeed nearly everything, just use it on a trick room team. It might be feasible...
 
Regirock is one of these Pokemon that is barely missing out on an OU spot simply because it has some of Metagross' problems: Earthquake weakness and no way to really hurt Waters without blowing up. Rock is a sort of nerfed type, the things that get away with it have something really great to compensate. Regirock doesn't really have that imo, just overkill on Defense and Thunder Wave.
 
Regirock @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
~Stone Edge
~Earthquake
~Focus Punch / Arm Hammer
~Explosion

I wouldn't recommend this - a slow CBer with an EQ weak - but it's an attempt to take advantage of Regirock's base 100 Atk stat. CBRock aside, I'd go for a Thunder Wave / Stealth Rock support set, as listed by Phuquoph.
 
Counter Regirock is really awesome. When you consider that Regirock survives a CBed STAB Earthquake almost always (only max damage OHKOes) from max attack Rhyperior by just maxing out its HP, it can counter really huge moves.

Trouble is, if it gets KOed next turn, you might as well have used Explosion instead.
 
Counter allows him to beat Metagross, where Explosion wouldn't.

It's a valid point though, as Regirock will need something to be paralyzed in order to come back and either attack or Explode.

I think he may be the most effective of the Regi trio this generation though. Doesn't get screwed by Stealth Rock like Regice and can attack effectively, unlike Registeel.

I would like to point out that Regirock counters Jumpman's Gyarados though.

*ducks*
 
The 'most effective' doesn't say much really because all three have been nerfed in some way...or two of them weren't that great to begin with while Regice now has a comparable-to-auto-3-layer Spikes to deal with and more Sand Stream. I'd still rather use Regice though, but that isn't much.

Counter is pretty cool in a Miltank/Forretress in a way that they survive about anything even with some boostings. It's arguably Regirock's asset, which means it could end up being predictable though. ):

Thunder Wave something, Rock Cart on the switch.
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Question: why would anyone get something Thunder Waved by Regirock, and THEN switch out to something else? Or better yet, why wouldn't they switch in something that is going to scare Regirock away? I wouldn't want to Rock Cart against Milotic or Manaphy...I think if anything that should be done in reverse order. Rock Cart first, ensuring that you'll at least get to Explode or Thunder Wave before you die or take massive damage.
 
DoubleX said:
Regirock @ Leftovers/Life Orb
Clear Body
Adamant nature
EVs: Max Atk, max Spd, rest in HP
- Rock Cart
- Explosion
- Thunder Wave
- Stone Edge

Thunder Wave something, Rock Cart on the switch. If it's a major threat (probably Blissey),
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I'm sorry but rofl, there is no way Blissey is ever, ever switching into Regirock unless it has like Grass Rope, Seismic Toss is a 5HKO. That won't really matter in actual battle since you'll just realize you're facing a water type instead of Blissey to blow up on, but like Mekkah said, you'll want to Rock Cart first.

Phuquoph said:
I would like to point out that Regirock counters Jumpman's Gyarados though.

*ducks*
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Assuming you can only say this because you've decided to put Waterfall on yours over Taunt, I'll humbly congratulate you on not losing to Regirock anymore (most of the time) and wish you the best of luck with Suicune, Milotic, Vaporeon, Slowbro and Thunderwave Blissey. =)
 
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