Return of the King^^

Gandalf the blue

Well, I wasnt too succesfull in the last time, so I could need some help xD


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Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 128 HP/144 Def/140 Spd/96 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Roar
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Roost
- Thunderbolt

Ok, my first pogeyman. Does great against a lot of other starters, my only concern is the SAtk. I often fail to 2HKO Pokemon like Hippo. I don´t know where to get the EVs from though. Atm they generate 271 Speed, 353 HP for Lefties+1, 341 SAtk for a bonus point, and the rest was put into his def.


Snorlax (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk/40 Def/216 SDef
Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Earthquake
- Pursuit
- Fire Punch

Snorlax works as some sort of special wall. No Selfdestruct as it is illegal in combination with Pursuit :( Body Slam>Return because it has the nice 30% para rate, which makes a lot of Pokemon think twice before coming in. My problem with it is the missing recovery, as SS, Rocks, spikes and stuff sum up quickly, and after hes gone my team is kinda weak on the special side.


Metagross @ Choice Band
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 240 HP/252 Atk/16 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Bullet Punch
- Explosion

My answer to Tyranitar, Sashers, and other stuff i dont like. Metagross needs more slots :( I woudl really like Thunderpunch or Pursuit somewhere, but the other moves seemed more important. I have on idea which speed number would be a good one, so I just made it random :P


Lucario (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Extremespeed
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Crunch

Great sweeper, once their Flyer/Gliscor is down. Wobb usually helps with that, as I either get a free turn or they die to Mirror coat/Counter. I used Bullet Punch instead of X-Speed before, but it hits some important Pokemon for lot less damage then X-speed would do.


Gyarados (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk/24 Def/232 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang

I got the Idea from Hibachi, as it always surprised me when gyarados outspeeded Starmie and 2HKOd with EQ. My back up flyer for Lucario, Hera and Infernape, and of course a cool Revengekiller as nobody expects it to be scarfed :P No idea about the EV-spread though, I could aswell use Jolly Band xD


Wobbuffet (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 4 HP/252 Def/252 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Mirror Coat
- Encore
- Counter
- Tickle

The star of the team, and the most broken Pokemon in OU. Yes, its even better then Chomp :P Tickel for some pwnage with Pursuit, nothing to explain here.





My Problems are: I would really welcome Stealth Rocks, Wishsupport or a Spinner somewhere.My team hates status aswell :8 I just dont know which Pokemon to replace :(
My problem Pokemon are Blissey (lol), Mence if I dont know the Set, Porygon-Z as it will destroy Lax easily, thats it i think.

I am open for all suggestions :P
 
Heh, I was wondering why Gyara outsped my Raikou....very different and effective IMO but you may want a better Special Wall. Raikou OHKOd Snorlax with one Calm Mind. Everything else looks good!
 
I am not digging tickle on Wobbuffet, I personally think he benefits better with safeguard but tickle can work with LaxPursuit I guess. Gyarados is okay for suprise kills but ... all in all I think the CB set is much better. I would rather just kill switch ins right away then give them the chance to switch. And the second you use it then the opponent should know. Of course with no SS or secondary damage on this team you might need the scarf for kills. So how to remedy that?

I think that you should add in toxic on Zapdos with roost. It can be an effective way to beat some more troublesome leads and switch ins.

You have nothing special attacking or laying anything down except Zapdos. So maybe put in something like an Empoleon? SR, and Yawn seems nice to me. I really do not like the idea of this team facing a Deoxys and Garchomp with a decent phsycial wall thrown in. That pretty much takes out your team. And wobby won't like taking all these hits especially if he is the star of the team.

Just some of my thoughts.
 
I'm not even going to begin on fixing this to counter most of the threats, because it's obvious I'd end up changing alot of sets. Instead, I will just offer an alternative offensive route that should pose more of an offensive threat to your opponent than the current.

I advise Tyranitar and Garchomp over Metagross and Snorlax.

Garchomp (M) @ Brightpowder
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Substitute
- Swords Dance

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/68 Spd/188 SAtk
Quiet nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse

Any sets like these will do, doesn't have to be exact. With Wobbuffet, it should give you an easier time setting up, as apose to switching to Metagross and Snorlax who still need prediction when they switch their former "Encored" Pokemon. With Garchomp and Tyranitar, you can just set up your Substitute and then attack an open opponent who has to predict what you'll do.

You can always try Bronzong over Zapdos to set up Stealth Rock and Hypnosis, and to further increase your chances when they're a Pokemon down due to sleep.

It's always worth a try!
 
I'm 99% sure that Pursuit is illegal with any elemental punch on Lax (punches come from XD, Pursuit is a 3rd/4th gen egg move). Adamant nature on Snorlax allows you something like an 88% chance of a OHKO on Starmie with Pursuit if it switches, which is noteworthy IMO.

Looks pretty solid overall, though. You might have some trouble with a Breloom that carries Stone Edge/Spore/Focus Punch/Sub, though Wobb might help against it some.
 
Fire Punch indeed is illegal with Pursuit, because Fire Punch is from the Emerald move tutor, while Pursuit is a D/P egg move. That really devalues Pursuit on Snorlax, so I'd go ahead and use Taylor's suggestions of Tyranitar and Garchomp.
 
I would run a 4/252/252 SpA/Spe spread on Zapdos, since he can be a potent special attacker, and you are somewhat lacking in that area.
 
Hm...Gyarados hits fast, Snorlax hits hard, Lucario does a mix of both, so let's get rid of Metagross. Granted that does hurt a bit, but let's replace it with...dun dun dun Blissey. And the set it can carry is nearly perfect for you. Wish and Stealth Rocks, which takes away two of the things, and can always be the switch in for status, AND takes care of all special attacks, instead of making Snorlax suffer. Of course Jirachi could also do the same with Wish/Stealth Rocks, but doesn't have Natural Cure. Shame Wish+Aroma isn't legal on Bliss.
 
Crap, another illegal set xD Fire Punch wasnt too useful yet, in fact i didnt eved used in once :P

Taylors way looks good, but I dont like the SS too much :( I had the 2 Pokemon with nearly the same set in my team before though^^ But what do you mean with "I'm not even going to begin on fixing this to counter most of the threats, because it's obvious I'd end up changing alot of sets"? I can handle all threats, atleast when all 6 Pokemon are alive.

Oh w8 Mop´s suggestion is better :P SO my 2 options are Jira>Meta or Blissey>Snorlax? hm, cant decide

@kinglerdude: yeah my team is really physical based, but I badly need roar on Zapdos for Raikou and other stuff, as Snorlax wont wall them forever. Empoleon would be cool, but which Pokemon should i replace? Band-Gyara instead of Scarf-Gyara is the way I will go with a high chance though.

Thx for the feedback :P Will edit the changes soon
 
You can't effectively "counter" threats with your team, you will only be able to resort to revenge killing. This is because you haven't got anything that's somewhat defensive with a recovery move apart from Zapdos.
 
After playing around with Wobbuffet a little more, I can safely say he's more or less dead with toxic spikes on the field. You also have 2 pokes weak to Stealth rocks while 3 of them are also choiced. You see what I'm getting at so I'm just going to say I'd recommend Forretress over Metagross, since it gives you a nice counter to Tyranitar (which would rip through your team otherwise) as well as spin support. As stated above, you have no real recovery besides roost on Zapdos, so I'd replace Gyrados with Vaporeon to give some wish support to your Snorlax, Wobbuffet, and Forretress.
 
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