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Janenmori

Yep you guessed it: Rate my fucking team!

The Team:

Spiritomb@ Leftovers
252 Hp/140 Atk/100 Def/16 Sdef
Careful
Pressure
~Sucker Punch
~Rest
~Sleep Talk
~Pursuit

Opener. It Pursuits stuff like Azelf openers, etc. and it can take status for me, but Celebi can do that too. Counters Gengar.

Gallade@ Leftovers
244 Hp/160 Atk/104 Spd
Adamant
Steadfast
~Close Combat
~Psycho Cut
~Ice Punch
~Will-o-Wisp

This is the main physical beast, but it serves the purpose of shutting down anything physical with WoW. Ice Punch for Dragons, etc.

Slowking@ Leftovers
212 Hp/44 Def/252 Satk
Bold
Own Tempo
~Nasty Plot
~Surf
~Slack Off
~Flamethrower

This is the main special threat and can take hits like a pro. Nothing likes being on the wrong end of a NPed STAB Surf, except Vaporeon or Croak, but there are ways with dealing with them. Flamethrower or Ice Beam?

Porygon-Z@ Choice Scarf
4 Hp/252 Satk/252 Spd
Timid
Adaptability
~Dark Pulse
~Tri Attack
~HP Flying
~Ice Beam

Considering HP Flying to take care of Heracross. Timid for that extra burst of speed. With its satk, it does not need the boost from Modest.

Tentacruel@ Leftovers
252 Hp/100 def/56 Satk/100 Spd
Bold
Clear Body
~Toxic Spikes
~Rapid Spin
~Ice Beam
~HP Electric

Replacing Donphan to take out Toxic Spikes and to clear the field while setting up Tspikes for my team.

Celebi@ Leftovers
252 Hp/100 Def/52 Satk/104 Sdef
Bold
~Grass Knot
~Perish Song
~Stealth Rock
~Recover

azntrumpet's suggestion. CM replaced by SR.

Overview:

I know this is no Stathakis team, but it can do okay. There are a lot of weaks. Let the rating/flaming begin!
 
Hm, you are right that you have a big Togekiss weak. I also see a Gengar weak. CMcune could definitely help with the Togekiss weak, but Dark Pulse on PoryZ will help with the Gengar weak, unless it has a Scarf of course. Hope I helped!
 
I seriously fail to see how he has a Gengar weak, he has a Rest-Talker and the best Gengar counter in the game in Spiritomb. I also fail to see the Togekiss weak as Donphan can't be Paralyzed and hits it with a Super-Effective Ice Shard before it gets flinched, probably a 2HKO.

However you might run into some Raikou problems. It gets in on either Dusknoir or Spiritomb, sets up a Substitute and proceeds to Calm Mind up and sweep you. Celebi with Perish Song counters Gyrados and deals with Raikou a little better. You already have a Spin Blocker in Spiritomb, and I'm not sure a Spin-Blocker is even necessary as you're only setting up Steath Rock.
 
No Gengar weak since he has Spiritomb, Gengar's #1 counter.

I see what you mean as either Spiritomb or Dusknoir could be easily ditched. Either one can beat Azelf and Gengar (Shadow Sneak on Dusknoir obviously), but then again Dusknoir finds problems of Pursuit. It depends on how you want to adjust the team, but personally I'd go for Spiritomb so you're not as fucked when a Tyranitar wants to show its head. On that note, I'd throw Spiritomb into SleepTalking business if you wish, as this would basically make you open to use a Sweeper.

I don't like the use of Donphan here. The problem that I have always had with Donphan was that he has no business with Toxic Spikes whatsoever... or even regular Spikes to begin with. You can keep him if you want, but I'd slap either Tentacruel, Forretress, or Starmie onto this team. Tentacruel can easily absorb Toxic Spikes with little problems and can be a decent Mixmence counter. Starmie can just revenge-kill shit to begin with. Forretress is just a bulky Spinner that can lay any type of Spikes that you wish.

Slowking: Hidden Power Electric would be your best bet, unless you seriously fear Celebi for some reason.

Scarfcross can easily become a pain in the ass to this team as a locked Megahorn is devestating everyone but Dusknoir, and it's not like Dusknoir is doing much back. Choice Band would be an even worse situation, and with Will-O-Wisp on top of that, you run serious risks against Heracross. If you don't think you want a final sweeper in place of Dusknoir, I'd just slap Gliscor on here. It can still run as a Garchomp counter and can easily handle shit on their own.
 
a majority of your pokemon are slow. what you could opt to do is run trick room on some and run restalk machamp over gallade.

that way, dusknoir can be one of your trick roomers; it would greatly benefit your team, since most of your pokemon are slow.

hopefully spiritomb doesn't die, because a CM/Sub Mismagius could run through your entire team without him if she has a chance to set up (you obviously could revenge kill her with porygon Z though).

Your team lacks a pseudo-hazer/taunter and you don't have wish support either. If you could somehow get those on your team, it would benefit you...
 
Colonel M said:
No Gengar weak since he has Spiritomb, Gengar's #1 counter.

I see what you mean as either Spiritomb or Dusknoir could be easily ditched. Either one can beat Azelf and Gengar (Shadow Sneak on Dusknoir obviously), but then again Dusknoir finds problems of Pursuit. It depends on how you want to adjust the team, but personally I'd go for Spiritomb so you're not as fucked when a Tyranitar wants to show its head. On that note, I'd throw Spiritomb into SleepTalking business if you wish, as this would basically make you open to use a Sweeper.

I don't like the use of Donphan here. The problem that I have always had with Donphan was that he has no business with Toxic Spikes whatsoever... or even regular Spikes to begin with. You can keep him if you want, but I'd slap either Tentacruel, Forretress, or Starmie onto this team. Tentacruel can easily absorb Toxic Spikes with little problems and can be a decent Mixmence counter. Starmie can just revenge-kill shit to begin with. Forretress is just a bulky Spinner that can lay any type of Spikes that you wish.

Slowking: Hidden Power Electric would be your best bet, unless you seriously fear Celebi for some reason.

Scarfcross can easily become a pain in the ass to this team as a locked Megahorn is devestating everyone but Dusknoir, and it's not like Dusknoir is doing much back. Choice Band would be an even worse situation, and with Will-O-Wisp on top of that, you run serious risks against Heracross. If you don't think you want a final sweeper in place of Dusknoir, I'd just slap Gliscor on here. It can still run as a Garchomp counter and can easily handle shit on their own.
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Thanks, excellent advice. I opted for Flamethrower and slapped HP Electric on Tentacruel.

The reason I was considering HP Flying on Porygon-Z was to take care of Hera. Any better options?
 
You could give Celebi Thunder Wave or Stealth Rock in the last slot, but be warned this is not a 100% counter it just forces Raikou out. Not really sure how well it takes +1 HP Ices. Luckily, CMRaikou isn't as common anymore. Thunder Wave so you can deal with SD Luke better or SR since it's a great move and you currently don't have it with Donphan gone.

Edit: Go with HP Flying on Porygon-Z as my suggestion made you weak as hell to Heracross.
 
Alright thanks. I will go with both SR and ditch CM. Works better with the pHazing idea and it Thunder Wave contradicts Will-o-Wisp and Toxic Spikes.
 
I don't think I'm too out of line here, but I don't think Gallade can be your main (let alone only) physical damage dealer. It's too slow, and when coupled with its fragility, it may not work out too well.
 
Spiritomb is another physical attacker, but I can see your point with the Gallade comment. Any suggestions, or does it work with only those?
 
it's too slow, and when coupled with its fragility, it may not work out too well.
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it's not exactly "fragile" lol

just looking at this, I don't like what skarmbliss do to you. gallade can't 2hko skarm unless it's burned and switches in on sr and you do near max damage both times. cress will also pretty much outstall the entire team.

bliss walls all of your other pokes and gallade has no recovery. it's kind of just a matter of time unltil he dies once they figure out that he's the only thing stopping bliss.

nitpick: sloking's evs are wasteful. 124 def/144 sat modest gives you the same stats but with 28 extra EVs xD

let'sgo about retooling this, i'm not going to point out more obvious weaks than the fact that it's easily stalled by stally pokes.

first off, celebi isn't sure what it's doing there besides beating the ???huge ou threat??? subcm raiou. honestly if you have ts down how is this even a problem? ts force things to switch anyways, perish song isn't really doing anything for you, especially without spikes. i'd go with leech seed instead to rack up residual damage.

so we have tentacruel laying down toxic spikes and spiritomb stopping starmie. celebi is just a good poke and even kinda covers tentacruel well (ground/electric/psychic resist, while tenta stops fire/ice/bug)

so far the things that can sweep us are ttars and smart heatrans. there's also nothing stopping blisseys with AT, or cress for that matter. mamoswine also kills us pretty hard. let's start with the easy stuff. heatran/tar/mamo are all niftity handled by a bulky water, milotic is a good idea since she sports recovery. now we need a good way to beat blissey and just break stall in general. machamp is a cool idea since he will force even more switches with dynamicpunch, and can stop annoying cbtars. the team is really slow right now though, and with 2 fly weaks and no resists, togekiss might have a field day. zapdos seems like a good idea, roost uturn hp ice thunderbolt works well enough.

i'm looking at spiritomb and i don't see a whole lot going on. i'd try something like taunt painsplit/wow or even nastyplot sweeper and make the machamp a resttalker =\

I'd also slap surf over hp elec on tentacruel to beat nape since between them celebi and zapdos will handle gyara well enough.

so we have taunt spiritomb, resttalk ice punch machamp, calmmind suicune, support celebi, tentacruel, roost uturn zapdos.

what are we weak to? well youre kind of relying on machamp to beat skarm+clericbliss (give machamp enough speed to beat skarm with 4 speed EVs)

interestingly something like electivire could give you trouble. swampert over suicune isn't a bad idea, and could free up a moveslot on celebi for thunderwave or uturn depending on your preference.
 
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