{RMT} Advice would be nice!

happyeskimo

The team ive been using for competitive battling

Jolteon - timid - starf berry 252spe/252spa
-substitute
-thunderbolt
-hidden power ice
-baton pass
Mainly works as my lead, it hits fast and hard and can baton pass a sub or the berry effects. Then can come back in late game to absorb electric attacks aimed at suicune or togekiss

Swampert - impish - leftovers - 252hp/252def
-stealth rock
-waterfall
-earthquake
-ice punch
Physical wall. Can set up stealth rocks which works together with a roaring suicune.I Chose ice punch over avalanche because it may receive a baton pass speed boost from jolteon and avalanche always attacks last.

Suicune - bold - leftovers - 252hp/252def
-calm mind
-surf
-roar
-reflect
Tanks well. and can set up on opponents who dont inflict enough damage on it. roar for hazing and inflicting some damage with stealth rocks set up by swampert. reflect seems to work well in conjunction with calm mind as both defense stats grow

Breloom - adament - poison heal toxic orb - 252atk/252spe
-spore
-substitute
-focus punch
-seed bomb
I love this guy, hes my favourite and anything slower than him tends to suffer.Always seems to mess up teams. Is leech seed a better option though?

Togekiss - calm - serene grace - leftovers - 252hp/252spD
-thunderwave
-nasty plot
-air slash
-roost
The annoying flincher. Once they are paralysed you mess with them. Build up your special attack with nasty plot or recover with roost if your down on health. Then flinch away. When im ever in trouble this guy always pulls through.

Infernape - naive - life orb - 232spe/252spA/24atk
-nasty plot
-flamethrower
-close combat
-grass knot
Late game mix sweeper. Saved to the end of the match when all threats have been killed or weakened. Finishes off nicely

So thats what I've got. They all seem to fit intogether nicely and work great when I play competitive battling. I just want some opinions on moves or replacements. For instance should i be using swampert as my stealth rocker as i already have a bulky water in suicune or is their a better pokemon like Donphan or something for the job that fits with my team. I would really appreciate any help. Dont hold back I wanna know if anything in my team is out of place!
 
If you really want us to not hold back... Okay.

Your team has little duribility and won't last very long in an extended battle. Your EVs need a lot of work and you need to think what should outrun what or how much something needs to survive x amount of attacks from what.

252/252 sets aren't really utilizing the maximum of your pokes. 252/252 Timid Jolteon is way overkill, all you need is to out run Weavile if you wish to run Timid. Plus, more HP means larger subs, which everyone else will appreciate.

Swampert doesn't work very well as a physical wall. That's what Suicune does a lot better... I'd suggest Rest on Suicune as well.

Your team is not going to absorb any sort of status very well and is going to be set up fodder for a lot of things after Breloom puts something to sleep/dies. Enemy Togekiss are going to be a pain to this team, Jolteon can take a couple hits from Air Slash, but your Jolteon is not built to last, at all...

Starf is unreliable, if you fight something like a Zapdos and you get a Def boost... That isn't gonig to help you very much.

Togekiss should really be used as a bit of a mixed wall. CS Heracross running Stone Edge might be able to kill you in one hit especially with SR being used like there's no tomorrow. I really like using Body Slam Togekiss because of accuracy to finish something off, after two turns of using it you have an 84% chance of para, and enemy Jolteon can't come in to absorb your T-Wave.

Anything with a Choice Scarf can really murder this team.

Any team that's built to last with a cleric should outlast this team pretty easily...

You really need a durable Norm/Fly resist too.

You really need to work on this a lot... Start out playing around with EVs.
 
yeh so what are you suggesting? If i dont max out speed on jolteon then choice scarf users will run all over it. In fact most of the recommended sets ive looked at have suggestied maxing out its speed and special attack...and im not changing togekiss because it works fine the way it is and body slam isnt reliable enough as it doesnt do enough damage to warrant risking 100% paralysis. And im pretty sure jolteon and swampert can take out normal/flying types with the moves ive given them so what are you suggesting for a resist there?
Suicune works fine as a mixed wall so i dont need to make togekiss a mixed wall, if they are going to risk sending a heracross into a togekiss air slash then they will get murdered not the other way round.
i appreciate the effort youve put into your criticism, however you didnt really suggest any alternatives. the evs ive put on my team compliment what they best stand for. I didnt go 252 on everything because i felt like it but more because thats what they required. I know a weakness when i see it, although im struggling to see this "massive" weakness to choice scarf users.
 
happyeskimo said:
yeh so what are you suggesting? If i dont max out speed on jolteon then choice scarf users will run all over it. In fact most of the recommended sets ive looked at have suggestied maxing out its speed and special attack...and im not changing togekiss because it works fine the way it is and body slam isnt reliable enough as it doesnt do enough damage to warrant risking 100% paralysis. And im pretty sure jolteon and swampert can take out normal/flying types with the moves ive given them so what are you suggesting for a resist there?
Suicune works fine as a mixed wall so i dont need to make togekiss a mixed wall, if they are going to risk sending a heracross into a togekiss air slash then they will get murdered not the other way round.
i appreciate the effort youve put into your criticism, however you didnt really suggest any alternatives. the evs ive put on my team compliment what they best stand for. I didnt go 252 on everything because i felt like it but more because thats what they required. I know a weakness when i see it, although im struggling to see this "massive" weakness to choice scarf users.
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There is something very unreadable about this. Please seperate paragraphs with spaces and check your grammer, this also seems a bit vicous conisidering you asked for an honest opinion.
 
I apologise for the paragraphs not being seperated in the last reply.

I did not mean for it to come across aggressively. and i did say i appreciate the input.
The criticism is good but there is a certain lack of advice and i am just re-adressing the points brought up

-togekiss is not using body slam over thunderwave. ghosts will take advantage of this and it doesnt support the rest of the team as well as a guaranteed paralysis

-the evs to me seems fine. I didnt just max them out for the sake of it, I really think thats what they need. Especially breloom, anything he outruns he usually beats.

I am taking into consideration the other things suggested such as the starf berry on jolteon but i really dont consider a whole change of team necessary.

If there really is a huge weakness and you want to help then please point out some alternatives.
 
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