RMT-Another Bronzong lead..

[madjohnflint]

At a glance:

General Strategy: Bronzong sets up rocks and puts something to sleep. Or, takes the Gengar/Yanmega Hypnosis. Vaporeon and Dusknoir wall stuff, force switches, counter, etc. Dragonite, Heracross and Raikou sweep stuff.

Edit: In case you care about how this team's been working out for me, it's been working out great. The only times I lose are when I fail to eliminate Blissey, and some crits here and there. I'm pretty lucky with this team. I win about 80% of my battles? I'm not sure.

Bronzong@Leftovers
248 HP/76 ATK/92 DEF/92 SPD (0 speed IV)
Nature: Sassy (+SPD, -SPE)
Ability: Levitate
-Gyro Ball
-Earthquake
-Hypnosis
-Stealth Rock

Good ol' 'zong. Gets rocks out early, hopefully, and puts something to sleep. Counters stuff with Gyro and EQ, resists draco meteors and stuff.. 248 HP EVs because I like odd HP numbers.

Dragonite@Yache Berry
252 ATK/252 SPE/4 SPD
Nature: Jolly (+SPE, -SPA)
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake
-Fire Punch
-Outrage

Nothing resists these 3 attacks, and with yache berry, guarantees at least one DD (barring Crit, of course). Good for sweeping stuff, problem with donphan (ice shard, bulky).

Heracross@Choice Band
96 HP/252 ATK/160 SPE
Nature: Adamant (+ATK, -SPA)
Ability: Guts
-Close Combat
-Megahorn
-Stone Edge
-Pursuit

Typical CBcross with a bit more speed to outspeed other CBcrosses. This thing hits hard. Comes in on predicted Will-o-Wisp blah blah blah.. Forces switches, helping rack up SR damage.

Raikou@Leftovers
64 HP/252 SPE/96 SPA/96 SPD
Nature: Timid (+SPE, -ATK)
-Thunderbolt
-HP Ice 70
-Substitute
-Calm Mind

Raikouuu, great for sweeping, provides special power and anti-skarmory.

Vaporeon@Leftovers
224 HP/144 DEF/4 SPE/136 SPD
Nature: Calm (+SPD, -ATK)
-Surf
-HP Electric 70
-Roar
-Wish

Wish passer, phazer, anti-dos, bulky water all in one. Helps tons.

Dusknoir@Leftovers
248 HP/32 ATK/200 DEF/4 SPE/24 SPD
Nature: Impish (+DEF, -SPA)
-Shadow Sneak
-Will-o-Wisp
-Thunder Punch
-Pain Split

This thing is savage. anti physical attacker, 2HKOs Gengar, azelf, 'zam. Anti-Gyarados incase Vaporeon is gone for some reason.


Stuff: Nothing too special, hopefully I can cripple one of their poke's with Hypnosis, get rocks up, out predict them and defeat them. This team needs prediction and relies heavily on the 3 defensive pokemon.

Some things I have trouble with include: Blissey, Toxic Spikes.
Some things I'd like to add to the team include: Toxic Spikes, Knock Off, Rapid Spin.

So you look at those things I want to add to the team and think Tentacruel. Where would I put him? Replace Vaporeon? No thanks, I lose phazing and Wish passing.

Toxic Spikes would let my Raikou take blissey.
Rapid Spin prevents Dragonite from getting owned by SR, and Raikou by Toxic Spikes. and.. Dusknoir by everything.
Knock off is a neat move to have, but it's far less important to the team than TS and RS.

So my first question to you, Smogon, is: How should I edit my team to add Rapid Spin and Toxic Spikes while maintaining Wish passing and phazing?

 

[Aeroblacktyl]

Hmmmm well judging by everything you need, the two things you can add is either Donphan or Tentacruel. Donphan can Rapid Spin, and Knock Off, as well as Roar anything that's setting up that might be sleeping, example: annoying CMCresselias, too many CM'd Suicune. And Tentacruel can Rapid Spin and Toxic Spikes. Or it can Toxic Spikes and Knock Off. It'll also take up the Toxic Spikes. If you were to add one, preferably Tentacruel, seeing as how Heatran will be annoying to you. Now where we add it is an issue.

You're keeping Raikou and Dusknoir. You add the Tentacruel, so no more Toxic Spikes problem, and you add your own and you can Rapid Spin. Let's add Dragonite and Bronzong back to the team as back up offense, and a good all around resisted Poke, and more importantly, a Mamoswine stopper.

Now with all that said, you can stop Special Attackers easily with a Wish Blissey in that last spot. If Blissey is too gay, you can try a Wish Togekiss, who can also help against Yanmega. Still an issue? We can add a Wish Jirachi, who can help take some Draco Meteors as well.

Also, with Bronzong, and Jirachi if you decide to use it, you can try Reflect on them, so Raikou can maybe try to do repeated sweeps, and it'll ease the physical moves.

 

[madjohnflint]

Okay. So I currently have this going, but I don't like it too much. Bronzong/Raikou/Dusknoir/Tentacruel/Leafeon/Dragonite

I feel I lack enough offense, and I don't want this to be a stall team.

So, the new plan is: Feel free to edit out Raikou and Dusknoir if you feel you can improve the team.

 

[Blistex]

This team looks very solid. My only suggestion is to drop band off Heracross and put Scarf on. While you lose power, you out speed Weavile.
I say this because most people who start with Bronzong, don't treasure it. Bronzong is the only thing keeping you from a Weavile coming in a sweeping your team. So my advice to you is have a back up plan with Heracross. OR Treat your Bronzong like he's made of gold.