RMT (by Ratchetdude099)

[patriotfan09]

RMT (by Ratchetdude099) (Working title) Needs rates please

Please RMT; Standard 1v1 team, may be used for doubles. Its for another site sorta, but is also an all around team. Here it is:

At a glance

The Team


Gengar @ Wide Lens/Choice Scarf

Levitate
Timid (+ Speed, -Atk)
252 Atk/ 252 Sp.Atk/ 6 HP
~ Focus Blast
~ Thunderbolt
~ Shadowball
~ Hypnosis/HP Ice

~My lead. Used as a special sweeper, as you can see. Focus Blast for normals, and steels. Thunderbolt for water and flying (ex. Gyra). Shadowball for STAB and such. Hypnosis for putting pokes to sleep.~

Machamp @ Lefties/Life Orb

No Guard
Adamant/Jolly (+ Atk/Speed, -Sp.Atk)
252 HP/ 252 Atk/ 6 Speed
~ Ice Punch
~ Stone Edge
~ Thunder Punch
~ Dynamic Punch

~Ice Punch for Dragon pokes, as well as ground and flying. Stone Edge for Flying pokes. Thunder Punch for more type coverage, and Dynamic Punch for STAB~

Vaporeon @ Lefties/Shell Bell

Water Absorb
Bold (+Def, - Atk)
* 252 Def, 252 HP, 4 Sp.Atk
Or if you want a bit more sting:
* 172 Def, 168 Sp.Atk, 168 HP
~ Surf
~ Wish
~ Ice Beam/ HP Electric
~ Protect

~Surf for STAB, Wish for support and healing. Ice Beam for dragons, but may go with HP Electric if I can get a good one. Protect for protecting reasons.~

Gliscor @ Lefties

Hyper Cutter
Impish (+Def, - Sp.Atk)
252 HP/ 252 Def/ 6 Atk
~ Roost
~ Earthquake
~ Ice Fang
~ Stealth Rock

~Roost for healing, EQ for Stab. Ice fang for good type coverage, and Stealth Rock for setting up.~

Blissey @ Lefties

Natural Cure
Calm/Bold
168 HP, 172 Def, 168 Sp.Def
~ Aromatherapy
~ Softboiled
~ Thunderwave
~ Flamethrower

~Good Cleric/staller. Aromatherapy for status, Softboiled for healing, Thunderwave for Para hax and Flamethrower for just a filler move, and so it doesnt become a big pink punching bag after a taunt.~

Dragonite @ Bright Power/Yache Berry

Inner Focus
Mild (+Sp.Atk, -Sp.Def)
* 172 Sp.Atk, 168 Speed, 168 Attack.
* 172 Sp.Atk, 168 HP, 168 Attack.
~ Ice Beam
~ Dragon Claw
~ Earthquake
~ Roost

~Mixed attacker. Ice Beam for type coverage, Dragon claw for STAB, without being committed to it (IE Outrage). EQ for a good type coverage, and Roost for healing, while reducing Ice damage. ~

Please rate, suggest changes, and other things. Also, excuse the bad descriptions, I'm not great with them.

Ratings-

Hmm, I have to go soon so I will be quick. At a glance:

stick with leftovers on vaporeon. Shell bell is way worse unless you have base 35 HP and can one hit KO blissey and snorlax...

Dragonite shouldn't be using ice beam, use fire blast instead it gets better coverage with dragon. Bright-powder is fun because you have roost. Stick with bright-powder unless it is banned.

And lastly, I suggest energy ball and an expert belt on gengar. You could have issues with cursepert.

Hey this is on wi-fi isn't it? That is cool... the game these days isn't even ever played on the DS anymore. Does your gengar have hidden power ice already? If not don't bother with it; garchomp is no longer with us. I would make machamp guts but it is set in stone on Wi-fi and no one seems to think guts is any good anyway. You don't need to quote this though. Machamp should be adamant, I don't know what jolly outspeeds off hand, besides adamant machamps. If you want to outspeed adamant machamp put in 8 speed over 6. Adamant gives way more stat points.

Lefties on vap, and sala is a better mixed dragon but if you like dragonite more then use this set, * 172 Sp.Atk, 168 Speed, 168 Attack with yache

First thing, I would personally recommend Timid Scarf Gar with Trick. But that's only with Platinum. With Shadow Ball, Tbolt, and Energy Ball/HP Ice as back up. Focus Blast is meh on it.

Second thing, you have far too many Ice Type attacks on your team. Switch some things around here or there.

As Gand said before, Mence is a better Mix-Sweeper. There are others too. Although you get points for using Dnite.

And as of now, I decree Blissey Clause. No Blisseys. Get a different Special Wall for cool factor.


That's all I can say atm.

I decided to playtest your team since you asked me for a rate, so I'll try to include most of the issues I found while playing with it.

One problem is your lack of power. I struggled immensely against a Dusknoir with Pain Split, and ended up with a PP-less Gliscor. If that wasn't enough, Toxic Spikes was on the field, and four of your Pokémon is affected by it. Taking this into consideration, I figured that your team fares quite bad against stall teams, especially considering your lack of power. For this reason, I decided to try out a Tentacruel over Blissey. I were tempted to replace Vaporeon, but that would be a really bad idea as Vaporeon is your only switch on Salamence. Blissey was only useful to me in one match - it killed a Forretress. However, so can Hidden Power Fire Tentacruel, and in addition, it dealt with Scizor quite well, and that's a pokémon who definitely caused some trouble. Nevertheless, I used this moveset:

Tentacruel @ Leftovers
Ability: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 252 HP/120 Def/136 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Surf
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin

As I mentioned, Hidden Power Fire Tentacruel can deal with Scizor too, so running 120 Defence allow you to take hits more convincing. It's also by far your best switch-in on Infernape. This also made me go with HP Electric in favor of Surf on Vaporeon to deal with Gyarados, as Tentacruel were my primarily switch on Infernape and other Fire types unless I needed Wish.

I also found Stone Edge on Machamp utterly useless alongside with ThunderPunch AND Ice Punch, except for hitting Gengar - a even better move would be Payback! Even with Toxic Spikes, you aren't getting through Cresselia who's going to switch in on you every time without taking damage. And speaking of Cresselia, I didn't really have any other options but Machamp to damage it. I also found Dragonite to be a little dead weight, so I tried out the DD-Nite to compliance for your lack of power. Though, it didn't really work that well with the rest of your teammates, nor create any synergy. I ended up trying a Curse Tyranitar (Careful with 252 HP / SpD, and Rest/Sleep Talk/Curse/Crunch) who creates a great of an synergy with Gliscor due Gliscor covering most of your physical weaknesses, and it's an amazing lategame cleaner. Althrough I didn't meet any CM-Jirachis they should really cause any trouble with Tyranitar, and they were definitely a big threat. Nevertheless, Payback was still a pretty useful move on Machamp is it lures in hell of a lot of Ghost/bulky Psychic types.

There also was a couple of situations I wish I had Focus Sash on Gengar. Althrough Focus Sash is negated by the Sandstorm from Tyranitar, I was forced to switch a LOT the first turn in fear of maybe Choice Scarf or Focus Sash. I don't think I landed a single Focus Blast while I played either, so I didn't really find Wide Lens useful at all. :p

I hope this was what you were looking for, and good luck with your team!

I recommend Hypnosis over HP ice since it's like in almost every gengar set and is very helpful.

 

[seds]

Hmm, I have to go soon so I will be quick. At a glance:

stick with leftovers on vaporeon. Shell bell is way worse unless you have base 35 HP and can one hit KO blissey and snorlax...

Dragonite shouldn't be using ice beam, use fire blast instead it gets better coverage with dragon. Bright-powder is fun because you have roost. Stick with bright-powder unless it is banned.

And lastly, I suggest energy ball and an expert belt on gengar. You could have issues with cursepert.

 

[patriotfan09]

Hmm, I have to go soon so I will be quick. At a glance:

stick with leftovers on vaporeon. Shell bell is way worse unless you have base 35 HP and can one hit KO blissey and snorlax...

Dragonite shouldn't be using ice beam, use fire blast instead it gets better coverage with dragon. Bright-powder is fun because you have roost. Stick with bright-powder unless it is banned.

And lastly, I suggest energy ball and an expert belt on gengar. You could have issues with cursepert.

Thank you, I'll put these up there...

 

[seds]

Hey this is on wi-fi isn't it? That is cool... the game these days isn't even ever played on the DS anymore. Does your gengar have hidden power ice already? If not don't bother with it; garchomp is no longer with us. I would make machamp guts but it is set in stone on Wi-fi and no one seems to think guts is any good anyway. You don't need to quote this though. Machamp should be adamant, I don't know what jolly outspeeds off hand, besides adamant machamps. If you want to outspeed adamant machamp put in 8 speed over 6. Adamant gives way more stat points.

 

[Gandalay4]

Lefties on vap, and sala is a better mixed dragon but if you like dragonite more then use this set, * 172 Sp.Atk, 168 Speed, 168 Attack with yache

 

[patriotfan09]

Thanks Gand. Please other people, RMT

 

[Ally of Justice]

First thing, I would personally recommend Timid Scarf Gar with Trick. But that's only with Platinum. With Shadow Ball, Tbolt, and Energy Ball/HP Ice as back up. Focus Blast is meh on it.

Second thing, you have far too many Ice Type attacks on your team. Switch some things around here or there.

As Gand said before, Mence is a better Mix-Sweeper. There are others too. Although you get points for using Dnite.

And as of now, I decree Blissey Clause. No Blisseys. Get a different Special Wall for cool factor.


That's all I can say atm.

 

[patriotfan09]

First thing, I would personally recommend Timid Scarf Gar with Trick. But that's only with Platinum. With Shadow Ball, Tbolt, and Energy Ball/HP Ice as back up. Focus Blast is meh on it.

Second thing, you have far too many Ice Type attacks on your team. Switch some things around here or there.

As Gand said before, Mence is a better Mix-Sweeper. There are others too. Although you get points for using Dnite.

And as of now, I decree Blissey Clause. No Blisseys. Get a different Special Wall for cool factor.

That's all I can say atm.

What suggestions would you make for moving ice types?
What would you suggest for a new Special Wall?
And I'll work on the Scarf Gar

 

[seds]

It is wifi so there is no platinum moves... TTYL keep energy ball/focus blast gengar and expert belt.

If you can, get stone edge on gliscor so you don't have too many ice moves. If you want a different special wall, use:

Stockpile gastrodon (it rules )
Rest-sleep talk charge beam regice (awesomosaurus; demolishes specsmence)
max special defense vaporeon (meh)
Registeel (there is no garchomp and it demolishes specs-mence)
fatlax with max/max HP and special defense

 

[patriotfan09]

It is wifi so there is no platinum moves... TTYL keep energy ball/focus blast gengar and expert belt.

If you can, get stone edge on gliscor so you don't have too many ice moves. If you want a different special wall, use:

Stockpile gastrodon (it rules )
Rest-sleep talk charge beam regice (awesomosaurus; demolishes specsmence)
max special defense vaporeon (meh)
Registeel (there is no garchomp and it demolishes specs-mence)
fatlax with max/max HP and special defense

Its WiFi, but I can get Platinum moves too. So dont hold back please.
Moar rates please.
Edit- Please rate people, I need help.

 

[Rag]

I decided to playtest your team since you asked me for a rate, so I'll try to include most of the issues I found while playing with it.

One problem is your lack of power. I struggled immensely against a Dusknoir with Pain Split, and ended up with a PP-less Gliscor. If that wasn't enough, Toxic Spikes was on the field, and four of your Pokémon is affected by it. Taking this into consideration, I figured that your team fares quite bad against stall teams, especially considering your lack of power. For this reason, I decided to try out a Tentacruel over Blissey. I were tempted to replace Vaporeon, but that would be a really bad idea as Vaporeon is your only switch on Salamence. Blissey was only useful to me in one match - it killed a Forretress. However, so can Hidden Power Fire Tentacruel, and in addition, it dealt with Scizor quite well, and that's a pokémon who definitely caused some trouble. Nevertheless, I used this moveset:

Tentacruel @ Leftovers
Ability: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 252 HP/120 Def/136 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Surf
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin

As I mentioned, Hidden Power Fire Tentacruel can deal with Scizor too, so running 120 Defence allow you to take hits more convincing. It's also by far your best switch-in on Infernape. This also made me go with HP Electric in favor of Surf on Vaporeon to deal with Gyarados, as Tentacruel were my primarily switch on Infernape and other Fire types unless I needed Wish.

I also found Stone Edge on Machamp utterly useless alongside with ThunderPunch AND Ice Punch, except for hitting Gengar - a even better move would be Payback! Even with Toxic Spikes, you aren't getting through Cresselia who's going to switch in on you every time without taking damage. And speaking of Cresselia, I didn't really have any other options but Machamp to damage it. I also found Dragonite to be a little dead weight, so I tried out the DD-Nite to compliance for your lack of power. Though, it didn't really work that well with the rest of your teammates, nor create any synergy. I ended up trying a Curse Tyranitar (Careful with 252 HP / SpD, and Rest/Sleep Talk/Curse/Crunch) who creates a great of an synergy with Gliscor due Gliscor covering most of your physical weaknesses, and it's an amazing lategame cleaner. Althrough I didn't meet any CM-Jirachis they should really cause any trouble with Tyranitar, and they were definitely a big threat. Nevertheless, Payback was still a pretty useful move on Machamp is it lures in hell of a lot of Ghost/bulky Psychic types.

There also was a couple of situations I wish I had Focus Sash on Gengar. Althrough Focus Sash is negated by the Sandstorm from Tyranitar, I was forced to switch a LOT the first turn in fear of maybe Choice Scarf or Focus Sash. I don't think I landed a single Focus Blast while I played either, so I didn't really find Wide Lens useful at all. :p

I hope this was what you were looking for, and good luck with your team!

 

[patriotfan09]

Thanks for the rates.
But I could use more...
Feel Free to suggest different pokes or anything, I'm not in love with these...

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