ORAS OU RMT Stall Wall Team

[Mark Aescht]

So I've been having a lot of fun with this team and it's been working out fairly well for me. I think the biggest issue I've run into is that having 3 knock off users is too much. The pokemon themselves are fine but I'm trying to figure out which knock off to trade out for another move.

Anyways, this is the team I've been playing with.

Chansey (F) @Eviolite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 Hp / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Bold Nature
- Soft-Boiled
- Aromatherapy
- Toxic
- Seismic Toss

Fairly basic Chansey set up though I did opt for SpD EVs because I've found that on the team it's a bit heavy on the Physical walls and less so on Special walls. So I invested in her to make a better Special wall rather than trying to plug up the physical weakness.

Slowbro @SitrusBerry
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 Hp / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Psyshock
- Thunderwave
- Scald
- Slackoff

Slowbro is easily the best physical wall on my team. I opted for the regenerator over oblivious due to the partnership with Mega Sableye (anti taunt) and the number of times I switch with him. It also helps me keep momentum (as odd as that might sound in a wall team) by switching into counters while not losing the opportunity to heal.

Clefable Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 Hp / 180 Def / 76 SpD
Bold Nature
- Moonblast
- Stealth Rock
- Moonlight
- Aromatherapy

Clefable has been great as my rocks setter. Having the fairy typing and STAB moonblast has definitely helped and is the primary reason to run it as a rocks setter over Skarmory. I've had a hard time getting a Soft Boiled Clefable over a Moonlight one so I've had to settle for Moonlight for now.

Gliscor Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 Hp / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Toxic
- Roost
- Knock Off

Gliscor is a great counter to both Heatran and Jirachi which the rest of the team can find some difficulties with. He's also a big help in that he can't be status effected after he's poisoned. The only issue is that he nonbos with aromatherapy, though this actually hasn't been a problem as of yet.

Tentacruel Black Sludge
Ability: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 252 Hp / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Knock Off
- Acid Spray
- Rapid Spin
- Scald

Tentacruel is my spinner as well as my counter to any Gigadrain/Leech Seed walls. Acid Spray has done a fair amount in forcing switch outs against other walls and again we have another instance of knock off which is on the chopping block with the other two.

Sableye Sablenite
Ability: Prankster/ Magic Bounce
EVs: 252 Hp / 128 Def / 128 SpD
Impish Nature
- Knock Off
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Taunt

Sableye is my Mega and is a back bone for this team. He's my taunt user, my prankster and my magic bouncer. I definitely enjoy having him though I feel like I need more practice deciding on when to Mega Evolve.


Overall the team has had a good track record and has a good amount of defensive coverage. The switch ins are very big in this team and I feel like I might need a roar or whirl wind user. I've considered Heatran and Skarmory but at the same time it feels like each of the current pokes are masters in their rolls.

Anyways, I'd love any advice and especially on what one of my 3 knock off slots should switch to.

 

[J_Hatfield_007]

Okay, so after looking over this team, I'd like to make a few suggestions...
The Chansey set is good, despite the uncharacteristically low HP Evs. Aromatherapy is great early-midgame to keep bad status off of the team.
The Slowbro set is similarly good, no problems there.
Clefable can have Fire Blast over Aromatherapy. Usually Chansey has enough survivability to keep it in. Fire blast gives some coverage over Steel or Grass foes like Ferrothorn, Skarmory, and Forretress.
As for Gliscor, you could replace Knock off #1 with Protect to get toxic and poison heal to work better. I've ran it before, and it doubles its effective stalling power.
Tentacruel can have Sludge Bomb instead of knock off #2 for higher STAB and possible poisoning with coverage. However, scald could be better for it's burn factor, as it gives the special walls more breathing room.
Finally, Mega Sableye could retain Knock off, unless you'd rather use Pain split to heal/damage at the same time or Sucker Punch to compensate for lowered speed.
Overall a good team, just don't let an opponent boost a Wallbreaker into sweeping the team. Good luck! ~JVaria

 

[Mark Aescht]

Okay, so after looking over this team, I'd like to make a few suggestions...
The Chansey set is good, despite the uncharacteristically low HP Evs. Aromatherapy is great early-midgame to keep bad status off of the team.
The Slowbro set is similarly good, no problems there.
Clefable can have Fire Blast over Aromatherapy. Usually Chansey has enough survivability to keep it in. Fire blast gives some coverage over Steel or Grass foes like Ferrothorn, Skarmory, and Forretress.
As for Gliscor, you could replace Knock off #1 with Protect to get toxic and poison heal to work better. I've ran it before, and it doubles its effective stalling power.
Tentacruel can have Sludge Bomb instead of knock off #2 for higher STAB and possible poisoning with coverage. However, scald could be better for it's burn factor, as it gives the special walls more breathing room.
Finally, Mega Sableye could retain Knock off, unless you'd rather use Pain split to heal/damage at the same time or Sucker Punch to compensate for lowered speed.
Overall a good team, just don't let an opponent boost a Wallbreaker into sweeping the team. Good luck! ~JVaria

I appreciate that! And yeah the big two to break up the boosters are the taunt Sableye and Unaware Clefable. I'll definitely put the fireblast on Clefable and protect on the Gliscor and I'll test the sludge wave Tentacruel. Thank you so much for the input!

 

[Dundies]

I'm not much of an OU player but I'll point out a few things that should be fixed.

First off, I'd recommend you change Sitrus Berry --> Leftovers on Slowbro, as the passive recovery is a lot more helpful than 25% once you drop below half, especially on stall.

Secondly, don't change Acid Spray to Sludge Wave on Tentacruel. Magic Guard Calm Mind Clefable is one of the biggest threats to stall, and Acid Spray is going to be your only reliable way to beat it.

Hope this helped

 

[trikx_insane]

Hey there! Cool stall team to begin with!

First off, I would suggest running Wish on either Chansey, replacing Toxic as Gliscor already has Toxic, or on Clefable to replace Aromatherapy as Chansey seems to be a better mon' to get off an Aromatherapy due to its' bulk it has compared to Clefable. Wish will help bring back HP up safely for your teammates if they can't get off a Slack Off / Recover 1 vs. 1 effectively and you can bring them up relatively healthy via a switch (e.g. Tentacruel which has no means of a good recovery move) Second, I would get rid of the Sitrus Berry in replace for Leftovers on Slowbro. You don't need a Sitrus Berry as it is a waste once it's used and you already have Regenerator and Slack Off to recover HP back. A way to fix your "Knock Off" users that you are flooded with as you said, instead of Stealth Rock on Clefable, you can try that on Gliscor in replace of Knock Off and swap Stealth Rock for Protect or Fire Blast on Clefable since you kind of don't have a way of beating Ferrothorn except burning it / PP stall. A suggestion as a way to beat Ferrothorn is changing Sableye to Calm Mind Sableye with a spread of 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpA, with this, it applies some offensive pressure that this team lacks to deal serious damage.

Some things to consider:
>You're very weak to Bisharp, especially when it's +2 and it isn't burnt. It's an issue as Bisharp can easily throw a +2 Knock Off / +2 Iron Head at no cost at all. You could look at Hippowdon or Chesnaught or Skarmory as possible fixes.

Overall good team and I hope I helped! :]

 

[Mark Aescht]

Hey there! Cool stall team to begin with!

First off, I would suggest running Wish on either Chansey, replacing Toxic as Gliscor already has Toxic, or on Clefable to replace Aromatherapy as Chansey seems to be a better mon' to get off an Aromatherapy due to its' bulk it has compared to Clefable. Wish will help bring back HP up safely for your teammates if they can't get off a Slack Off / Recover 1 vs. 1 effectively and you can bring them up relatively healthy via a switch (e.g. Tentacruel which has no means of a good recovery move) Second, I would get rid of the Sitrus Berry in replace for Leftovers on Slowbro. You don't need a Sitrus Berry as it is a waste once it's used and you already have Regenerator and Slack Off to recover HP back. A way to fix your "Knock Off" users that you are flooded with as you said, instead of Stealth Rock on Clefable, you can try that on Gliscor in replace of Knock Off and swap Stealth Rock for Protect or Fire Blast on Clefable since you kind of don't have a way of beating Ferrothorn except burning it / PP stall. A suggestion as a way to beat Ferrothorn is changing Sableye to Calm Mind Sableye with a spread of 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpA, with this, it applies some offensive pressure that this team lacks to deal serious damage.

Some things to consider:
>You're very weak to Bisharp, especially when it's +2 and it isn't burnt. It's an issue as Bisharp can easily throw a +2 Knock Off / +2 Iron Head at no cost at all. You could look at Hippowdon or Chesnaught or Skarmory as possible fixes.

Overall good team and I hope I helped! :]

What would be the cut for Skarmory? I have a Skarmory ready but the issue of what to cut comes in. Gliscor is my Jirachi/Heatran counter (EQ is huge) and the Fairy typing in Clefable makes her invaluable. Chansey is my best wall and Sableye is probably the centerpiece due to Magic Guard and His Taunt. Slowbro provides healthy switch ins and is by far my best physical wall and his typing with STAB Psyshock and Scald have performed great. Tentacruel might be the switch but he's one of my only true special walls and he's huge against opposing clefables and Mega Venesaur. It's hard to make the cuts when each of the pokes have proven their place on the team so I was just wondering what your opinion was on it.

 

[Celticpride]

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