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[mrrkaytee]

At a Glance:

Heatran Scizor Gyarados Jolteon Breloom Blissey

In Deph:

Nickname: Cyndrus
Flashfire
Naive
252spatk/252Spee/4atk
Item: Shuca Berry


Stealth Rock
Earth Power
Flamethrower
Explosion

I open up with a Stealth Rock always. Shuca Berry is for any lead who thinks they can KO me with a ground attack or any pokemon weak to earth. Flamethrower for flashfire or against a steel pokemon. ALso flashfire covers my Sczior, Breloom extremely well. It resist Flying, Physcic, Bug, Ghost, Dragon, Dark, Steel, Grass, and Ice so I usually use Explosion to destroy pokemon that are too hard to kill (Garchomp, Salmence,etc) when necessary.

Why This Nickname:Because Cinder, Cyndrus? Kind of Rhymes.

Nickname: Daisho
Technician
Adamant
252atk/56Spe/200hp
Choice Band

Pursuit
Bullet Punch
Superpower
U-turn

Incredible resistance to Physcic, Bug, Ghost, Dragon, Dark, Steel. Grass, Ice, Normal. I usually switch this pokemon in for Breloom and Gyarados. Incredible damage against Aerodactyl. This pokemon usually sweeps at the end. This is also one of my favorite pokemon in the game so I feel exilerated everytime it goes out on the field.

Why This Nickname:I was watching a Samurai movie and it reminded me of Scizor.

Thanks Bloo for the build.

By switching to a Choice Band Scizor, you will not only have the ability to powerfully scout and adjust to the opponent's team with U-turn and trap+kill threatening walls and sweepers with Pursuit, but you will also be able to revenge kill with even more power than before. Choice Band Scizor actually works really well with Dragon Dance Gyarados. Think about it. What likes switching into Scizor- Zapdos, Rotom, Heatran, Gyarados. Zapdos and Rotom both counter Gyarados. With U-turn + Stealth Rock damage, Zapdos and Rotom will not be living for long meaning they will be weakened enough for your Gyarados to finish them off! Scizor's Pursuit also allows you to get rid of Celebi, another counter to Gyarados.

Nickname: Golrasu
Intimidate
Adamant
156hp/108atk/100def/144spe
Leftovers

Dragon Dance
Taunt
Stone Edge
Waterfall

Dragon Dance on the switch. Taunt is for the wall. It works wonders against Ninjask and pokemon who are trying to set up. Stone Edge for flying pokemon and Waterfall is my STAB move. Incredible damage that usually destroys the other team when I use two Dragon Dances. Covers pretty much Breloom for Fighting and Flying, and Jolteon for ground.


Why This Nickname: A combination of Goliath from starcraft and colossal.

Nickname: Sparky
Volt Absorb
Timid
252spatk/252speed/6hp
Life Orb

Thunderbolt
Shadowball
Hidden Power Grass
Charge Beam

Thunderbolt STAB, Shadowball and Hidden Power Grass to take care of Swampert, and Dusknoir. Works great with my gyarados. Absorbs thunderwave and all thunderattacks. OKO and revenge kills pretty much any pokemon. Destroys any team if they don't have a Blissey. Charge Beam allows me to KO a gyardos and also getting SPATK boost too. Very useful for sweeping. Intimidate from Gyarados allows Jolteon to absorb attacks allowing it to Oko.

Thanks Bloo.

With Life Orb, Jolteon approaches the power of a Specs Jolt, but retains the ability to switch attacks. After a Charge Beam boost, however, this Jolteon set far outdamages Choice Specs Jolteon, and makes an excellent late game sweeper. Charge Beam alone is powerful enough to get the guaranteed OHKO on Gyarados, and so Jolteon can outspeed and KO a +1 Dragon Dance Gyarados with it and gain something from the process. HP Grass is over Hidden Power Ice as Salamence cannot switch into Jolteon by any means, and you'll really appreciate being able to hit Swampert and Tyranitar for that bit of extra damage. Shadow Ball hits Latias harder than HP Ice would, and both Dragonite and Salamence are KOed by a +1 Thunderbolt after SR. I guess it does have merit in doing more damage to Gliscor and Flygon, but apart from that I feel HP Grass is more useful in hitting Rhyperior and especially Swampert harder. The reason Shadow Ball is over Signal Beam is because the OHKO on Celebi is completely not worth it. Jolteon is immune to Celebi's Thunder Wave and Grass Knot hits it for a whole 40 base power, meaning you should be using Celebi to Charge Beam up, not kill it off. After you get a couple of boosts, kill it with Shadow Ball and sweep. HP Grass can deal with Tyranitar just as well (read: not too well) and Shadow Ball gets that important hit on Rotom. Basically, Shadow Ball does everything Signal Beam can, since it 2HKOes Celebi, while still hitting Latias, Cresselia, and various other Pokemon that you will be hitting with Signal Beam.

Why This Nickname: I already wanted a dog named Sparky.

Nickname: Gumbo
Poison Heal
Adamant
44hp/252atk/212speed
Toxic Orb

Substitute
Spore
Focus Punch
Leech Seed

The regular Focus/Sub Breloom. Leech Seed instead of Seed Bomb because it supports my other pokemon when I switch out too. This pokemon saved my butt in every game. It either weakens half of the team with status and Focus Punch or destroys Blisseys which allows my Jolteon to sweep. It also stays long against walls with Leech Seed. Leech Seed + Toxic Orb makes substitute sacrfice no hp at all.

Why This Nickname: Kind of like Gumby but with an o. Green and skinny. :]

Nickname: Milfsey
Natural Cure
Calm
252hp/252def/6spdef
Left Overs

Seismic Toss
Ice Beam
Thunder wave
Softboiled

My Wall. Gives support for my other pokemon if it is statused. Thunderwave supports my slow pokemon such as Breloom and allows my heatran to give a revenge explosion. Seismic Toss takes care of any pokemon that is being walled. This pokemon tanks all spatk pokemon and usually weak physical attackers. I usually softboil first to see what attack my opponent does, then switch to my resistance pokemon. Thank god I have a gyarados to save this Blissey against fighting.


Why This Nickname: It was between Milksey and Milfsey. Milfsey just sounded better and funnier.






Please tell me what you think,weaknesses, and how I should improve on my team. Thanks for responding everyone. :)

 

[Steel.Storm]

i believe this could possibly get locked. the descriptions aren't really great (AKA Rule #3)... we know what the moves do, what gets STAB, what types hit what types for SE, and the basic idea for most pokes (ex: i'm pretty sure EVERYONE knows Bliss is a wall)

tell us why you chose these pokes. what do they bring to the team? do they cover a certain weakness? do they counter something you could possibly be run over by? do they add to your over all strategy and how? etc.

best of luck :)


EDIT: also you're formats don't match (ex: Gyara goes Ability, Items, EVs, etc while Jolteon goes EVs, Nature, Ability, etc)... try out:

[Pic Of Poke]
Poke @ Item
Ability (i usually only include this if there's 2 possibilities)
Nature
EVs
Move
Move
Move
Move

description

 

[mrrkaytee]

Thanks, I updated it.

 

[Bloo]

Being a long time user of Choice Specs Jolteon, I would have to recommend against it. I find it is far too reliant on prediction, and as long as your opponent has a Ground type around it is pretty much useless I find. I would consider using a Life Orb version of Jolteon with Timid, 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe, Life Orb, Charge Beam, Thunderbolt, HP Grass, Shadow Ball. With Life Orb, Jolteon approaches the power of a Specs Jolt, but retains the ability to switch attacks. After a Charge Beam boost, however, this Jolteon set far outdamages Choice Specs Jolteon, and makes an excellent late game sweeper. Charge Beam alone is powerful enough to get the guaranteed OHKO on Gyarados, and so Jolteon can outspeed and KO a +1 Dragon Dance Gyarados with it and gain something from the process. HP Grass is over Hidden Power Ice as Salamence cannot switch into Jolteon by any means, and you'll really appreciate being able to hit Swampert and Tyranitar for that bit of extra damage. Shadow Ball hits Latias harder than HP Ice would, and both Dragonite and Salamence are KOed by a +1 Thunderbolt after SR. I guess it does have merit in doing more damage to Gliscor and Flygon, but apart from that I feel HP Grass is more useful in hitting Rhyperior and especially Swampert harder. The reason Shadow Ball is over Signal Beam is because the OHKO on Celebi is completely not worth it. Jolteon is immune to Celebi's Thunder Wave and Grass Knot hits it for a whole 40 base power, meaning you should be using Celebi to Charge Beam up, not kill it off. After you get a couple of boosts, kill it with Shadow Ball and sweep. HP Grass can deal with Tyranitar just as well (read: not too well) and Shadow Ball gets that important hit on Rotom. Basically, Shadow Ball does everything Signal Beam can, since it 2HKOes Celebi, while still hitting Latias, Cresselia, and various other Pokemon that you will be hitting with Signal Beam.

Currently, the EV spread you have on Heatran reaches a total of 488 EV's. You still have room for 20 more EV's. I would just suggest you use 252 Speed/252 Special Attack/6 Attack. The leftover EV's are put into Speed to allow Heatran to tie with oppsing lead Heatran. Blissey is taking almost all your team's special attacks, so maybe change the spread to Calm with 80 HP, 252 Def, 176 SpD. Blissey needs the extra Special Defense to avoid getting 2HKOed by Pokemon such as like SpecsLuke's Aura Sphere. This spread also allows Blissey to take Focus Blasts from Gengar more effeciently as well.

I'd like to comment on Scizor. Right now, he is a fairly basic sweeper, also, one fairly easily countered by Zapdos, Heatran, etc, forcing Scizor to switch out once you pull of a Swords Dance. By switching to a Choice Band Scizor, you will not only have the ability to powerfully scout and adjust to the opponent's team with U-turn and trap+kill threatening walls and sweepers with Pursuit, but you will also be able to revenge kill with even more power than before. Choice Band Scizor actually works really well with Dragon Dance Gyarados. Think about it. What likes switching into Scizor- Zapdos, Rotom, Heatran, Gyarados. Zapdos and Rotom both counter Gyarados. With U-turn + Stealth Rock damage, Zapdos and Rotom will not be living for long meaning they will be weakened enough for your Gyarados to finish them off! Scizor's Pursuit also allows you to get rid of Celebi, another counter to Gyarados. I suggest Choice Band Adamant 200 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Spe Bullet Punch U-turn Superpower Pursuit. There are actually a couple of ways you can go with the EV's. The EV's I listed first allow Scizor to be able to outspeed most Skarmory, Metagross, and CB Tyranitar with the 56 Speed EV's. That EV's invested into HP will also help you take hits from Latias allowing you to Pursuit it for the kill. If you would like a Scizor that is more Specially Defensively oriented that is more suited switching into opposing Latias and Gengar's Special Attacks to Pursuit them, try a set with 24 HP / 252 Atk / 176 SpD / 56 Spe. With the Special Defense EV's, you will be able to take Draco Meteor's and Focus Blast's more effectively. The extra bulk provided by not losing 10% a turn attacking will often come in handy, as well (as will the extra HP EVs), given Scizor's awesome ability to switch in.

Should I replace Shuca with Focus Sash. It might cover pokemon like Shaymin or Heatran, but it can't cover pokemon like Garchomp.

I'd keep Shuca Berry. The reason Shuca Berry is better is because of the position you find yourself in against Aerodactyl / Mamoswine leads. Basically, you lose to both, regardless of whether you run Focus Sash or not, however, the Shuca Berry allows you to come back in later and possibly survive a Ground attack, whereas Focus Sash will probably be negated by Stealth Rock.

Should I replace Aromatherapy with Ice Beam? Should I replace Blissey with Celebi or should I keep Blissey.
Bold Celebi with: Calm Mind, Leechseed, Grassknot,Recover

If you replace Blissey with Celebi, your team is going to be quite vulnerable to Zapdos who can kill Scizor, Gyarados, Breloom, and Celebi if you do replace it with Blissey. So keep Blissey as it is covering Special Attacking threats such as the aforementioned Zapdos, who can otherwise cause some trouble. In addition to that, if you do replace Blissey with a Celebi, your going to have three Fire weaknesses. Your Heatran can take these Fire attacks, however, your opponent may predict that your going to send in Heatran and use a super effective move against it instead to kill it. You then have Gyarados who can not keep switching into Fire attacks due to the prevalence of Stealth Rock which will wear said Gyarados down. So keep Blissey. As for Aromatherpay, I would consider testing Flamethrower and Ice Beam. Both have their merits. Flamethrower allows you to get a nice hit on Lucario, Scizor, and Metagross switch-ins while Ice Beam allows you to hit Salamence and Flygon. Aromatherpahy is not really needed since you Breloom can take status since Toxic Orb will potect Breloom from being statused. Blissey can also take status for your team and Jolteon takes Thunder Waves so statusing moves are not too much of a concern for your team.

 

[mrrkaytee]

Dear Bloo,
Thank you for your response, I really appreciate it. I love your ideas because Jolteon and Scizor is starting to become weak compared to my other pokemon. Everyone can read what Jolteon's move will do next and instantly counters it with a switch in. Plus, Hidden Power Ice does fairly low damage to Dragon pokemon. I barely use Scizor's sword dance too, because he's my late game sweeper. Thanks for the advice.

And my Heatran is actually 252spatk/252speed/4atk. Typo x]


Thank you so much


PS: Which Scizor build would you prefer?

 

[Zach]

If you're going to use Roost on Scizor, I'm going to go ahead and suggest a bulky set (I think LR uses / used it). The same attacks you have, except you use this EV Spread: 252 HP / 176 SpD / 76 Atk with Shed Shell. This Scizor can come in on standard Vaporeon's Surf with ease, and then alternate between SD-ing and Roosting off damage. Switch out and lol when your opponent uses Magnezone. Or you could go with the omnipotent Choice Band Scizor (>_<)

I see a bit of SD Lucario weak here, particularly with Stone Edge. Perhaps you could use Gliscor as a stealth-rocking lead and Lucario counter, although that leaves you a tad ice-weak.

 

[mrrkaytee]

I just played on wifi, and i destroyed a team without losing any of my pokemon. :D Thanks bloo. And you're right, I am weak to Stone Edge. Thanks for the advice Crunch!

Also I fixed my above post.

 

[mrrkaytee]

I'm thinking of replacing my blissey, anyone have any suggestions? Maybe tyranitar or swampert?

Thanks

 

[Steel.Storm]

hmm... the team is looking pretty good (btw, you stole my Heatran Nickname -_- lol).

TTar looks like he'd create a Fighting weakness though, so maybe try out Pert

 

[mrrkaytee]

Oh sorry, I didn't know. If you want I can change it.

I'm thinking of replacing with Blissey with Dusknoir or Swampert. Or should I keep it Blissey?


Also, should i replace flamethrower with lava plume for heatran?

caelum edit: don't infract this for re-posting something I deleted, I didn't mean to delete.