Scarfeon? [RMT]

Johnzaloog

I'm still not very good with teams, but I thought maybe I'd have another go. Give me a hand please :)


Team at a glance
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Bronzong
Leftovers
Levitate
Sassy
252HP/128ATK/128SPDEF
Gyro Ball
Hypnosis
Stealth Rock
Earthquake

My lead, sleeper and SRer. My Rock resistance, though to be fair, I almost never see rock attacks anymore, oberlooking rocks of course, whilst rock and ice resistances are always useful.

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Salamence
Choice Band
Intimidate
Adamant
4HP/252ATK/252SPE
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Flamethrower
Stone Edge/Rock Slide

This team is mainly testing, the only ones I've actually used before were Vapes and Heatran. My main Physical sweeper, this guy doesn't seem to get much use anymore, normally being a DD or specs set. How significant is the power difference between Stone edge and rock slide, I'm edging towards slide.

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Vaporeon
Leftovers
Water Absorb
Bold
188HP/252DEF/68SATK
Surf
Wish
Ice Beam/Toxic
Protect/Toxic

Kawaii~ My bulky water and wish passer, and he's bloody (yep, I'm english) good at it. Toxic is tempting, as I don't have many status users on this team, your call.

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Breloom
Toxic Orb
Poison Cure
Adamant
44HP/252ATK/212SPE
Substitute
Leech Seed
Focus Punch
Seed Bomb

As tempting as spore is, with hynosis on zong, it probably won't be needed as much. I've always been fond of breloom, and I feel this set is best, but that's just my oppinion, and my team could use some more physical strength.

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Heatran
Leftovers
Flash Fire
Modest
252HP/96DEF/100SATK/96SPDEF
Lava Plume
Earth Power
Rest
Sleep Talk

I can remember somebody on this forum once said (sorry, I don't know your name), almost every good team has a good restalker. He covers zong's fire weakness well (as zong does with tran's earth weakness), and fire and earth moves are both good types for attacking, and if gyara comes in, I guess Vaporeon, Zong, mence or even jolteon (avoiding EQ) could deal with him.

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Jolteon
Choice Scarf
Modest
Volt Absorb
EVs: 92HP/252ATK/164SPE
Thunderbolt
Hidden Power [Ice]
Shadow Ball
Baton Pass

Okay, I'll be honest, I'm improvising here. I know that this is the specs set (which is barely used), but I thought maybe scarf could be used, but I'm not sure, to make sure that I'm always faster than the likes of Garchomp, gengar, gyarados and Salamence (without DDs). Here are some calcs, I used metalkids:

HP [Ice] vs. Garchomp 4HP/0SPDEF Damage: 96.65%-113.97% (Guaranteed 1KO with SRs)

Metalkid has no Yache berry? how wierd, sorry.

Thunderbolt vs. Gyarados 216HP/0SPDEF Damage: 159.48%-187.53%
HP [Ice] vs. Salamence 4HP/0SPDEF (Specs/Band) Damage: 109.64%-128.92%
HP [Ice] vs. Salamence 120HP/0SPDEF (Mix) Damage: 100.83%-118.56%
HP [Ice] vs. Salamence 120HP/0SPDEF (Fat) Damage: 94.55% - 111.17%
Shadow Ball vs. Gengar 4HP/0SPDEF Damage: 83.21% - 98.09% (okay, not quite a guaranteed KO, but if it gets cocky on switching in, then a second hit will kill it, since they'd probably not expect it scarfed
Thunderbolt vs. Gengar 4HP/0SPDEF Damage: 74.05% - 87.02% (Pffrt, barely any less, oh well)
HP [Ice] vs. Dragonite 4HP/0SPDEF (most sets)Damage: 93.52% - 110.19% (SR)
HP [Ice] vs. Dragonite 252HP/0SPDEF (bulkiest, unless peops are using unconventional sets) Damage: 78.50% - 92.49% (not quite KO, but prevents subs)
Shadow ball vs. Azelf 36HP/0SPDEF Damage: 77.00% - 90.33%

Please help me out here, I hope it's atleast half-decent.
 
wow! I'm loving the creativity with the Jolteon! You scare away most of the sweeping threats! Just watch out for priority moves, as they could be a slight problem for it.

I'll do a full rate later. Right now i'm quite busy...
 
The only problem is that Metakid's calculator overshoots damage, so you really don't do that much damage to those threats.
 
You could use a Raikou, which has better stats than Jolteon (Besides speed of course) and learns Extrasensory instead of Baton Pass. However, if you're going to keep that Jolteon, shift some EVs from speed to HP. I suggest 307 speed which will outspeed CS and +Speed nature base 90s, including such pokemon as Porygon-Z and Lucario. To achieve that, you need just 44 Speed EVs.You could also use 164 speed, which will reach 337 speed, which after scarf boost will give you 505 speed, outspeeding even max speed +speed nature deoxys-s.
 
Mastadi said:
You could use a Raikou, which has better stats than Jolteon (Besides speed of course) and learns Extrasensory instead of Baton Pass. However, if you're going to keep that Jolteon, shift some EVs from speed to HP. I suggest 307 speed which will outspeed CS and +Speed nature base 90s, including such pokemon as Porygon-Z and Lucario. To achieve that, you need just 44 Speed EVs.You could also use 164 speed, which will reach 337 speed, which after scarf boost will give you 505 speed, outspeeding even max speed +speed nature deoxys-s.
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I like the idea of the speed EVs, I'll change it to 164. I have no idea about raikous, but obviously it's have to be on a different thread otherwise confusing other raters :)
 
What I'd be scared here is of Lucario. SD CC OHKO's 5 things, the one that outright outspeeds it gets EXtremespeed fucked, and Salamence probably' won't like SR and a hard hit so that's kind of ifty.

I'd maybe try to change up the team slighty with removing Bronzong, for a Metagross. Itdefinitely hits hard. Maybe an extra Explosion to help take out a threat for your team as well? Just an overall bulky powerful Poke to have.

With this said, it makes Breloom extremely replaceable, seeing as how you wanted it for the physical presence. But instead of that, we're going to add in Nidoqueen. Nidoqueen can absorb Toxic Spikes, although only hits 2 Pokemon, but Vaporeon is pretty important to keep status free. This also gives you a Stealth Rocker you would have been missing from Bronzong, and just great defense against Heracross and the aforementioned Lucario.

So the team would look around like Metagross, Salamence, Vaporeon, Nidoqueen, Heatran, Jolteon. Seems solid enough despite the 4x Ground weakness, so another Scarf Electric such as Zapdos wouldn't be a bad idea over Jolteon as well.
 
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