Scizor (Agility)

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Scizor @ Liechi Berry
Adamant - 252 Atk, 86 Def, 172 Spd
Swarm
- Agility
- Substitute
- X-Scissor/Night Slash/Reversal
- Reversal/Night Slash/Reversal


- Adamant nature and max Atk evs for max attack, and 172 spd evs lets scizor Outspeed max speed scarf heatran after one agility. 86 Def evs are added for extra bulk.
- used as a late-game sweeper
- It's similar to empoleon, where you switch in to one of scizor's many resistances, agility on the switch, and sub until liechi berry activates.
- a 200 BP Reversal and a 180 BP X-Scissor thanks to swarm and STAB boosted by a liechi berry means this scizor will hit hard no matter what. Night Slash can be used to hit ghosts.

- Pokemon that cause problems to this set: The only true counters I have seen to this Scizor set without night slash would be ghost types like the rotom appliances, dusknoir, and gengar, who are only 3-4HKO'd by X-Scissor, meaning your sweep will stop. A Pursuit user like Tyranitar would be a good partner then to get rid of those ghosts.
There are also some pokemon who can act as revenge killers to this set. Priority move users like Lucario, Scizor, Metagross, and Infernape and random scarfers faster than heatran can kill you after you set up. Scizor and Metagross can be handled by a Magnezone with hp fire and magnet rise, and lucario can be handled by a fast fire or fighting users or an encore user, since most lucario run swords dance, so a choice scarf magnezone can be used to take luke out. Starmie can take out most infernape due to its faster speed, but grass knot is scary.
There are also some pokemon who are only 2HKO'd by this Scizor even after SR, so then they can revenge kill it, like Skarmory, Forretress, and Suicune. Magnezone takes out Skarmory and Forretress, and Suicune doesn't like getting encored or hit by a hp electric by vaporeon.
Lastly, there are certain flying type pokemon who can intimidate and cancel out liechi berry's effect. They are gyarados and salamence. Ice-type moves and SR for Salamence, and a Starmie's Tbolt or someone else's electric attack can handle gyarados. While I'm still on Flying-types, Gliscor should also pose a problem to this set, so ice-type moves should get rid of him.


I've been playing with this set for a while now, and with the right amount of team support, this scizor can tear through a team, especially late game.
 
Shouldn't X-Scissor be an absolute necessity? I mean, you're running Swarm, so you might as well make use of it.
 
I very much doubt this set's effectiveness. First off, many people have already taken a stance against Sub + berry users as priority is just too threatening. Even with a resistance, ExtremeSpeed and Bullet Punch will likely kill Scizor if it's at low health, ~25%. Second, you have to choose what you want to kill. With only 2 moves for type coverage, you will either be walled by Ghost-types or walled by Steel-types like Heatran. Either way, this set is not getting past Skarmory (if its the initial switch in). Sure you can use Magnezone or whatever to open up a sweep every once in awhile for this set, but is it worth it? Probably not. This is another gimmicky set that does not deserve to be on site, sorry.
 
Despite of the fact that Scizor has a great type combination (which is ideal for Substitute + Berry users), this set's coverage is pretty limited. If you go an opt for using X-Scissor and Reversal, then Ghost-, and Dragon-type Pokemon (mainly) will wall you all the way out, and it happens something very similar when using one of these in tandem with Night Slash.

In terms of reference, you can look at Empoleon, whose combination of Water-, and Ice-type moves is only resisted by Water-type Pokemon -- this is exactly what a set of Substitute + Berry should aim to. In short, key resistances and wide coverage are the primary characteristics that this type of sets must have, and the proposed Scizor fails to meet the latter. So no, I don't approve this set.
 
Another reason why Pokemon like Scizor and Lucario are not favored for these sorts of sets is that they have very powerful priority moves to make up for their lack of Speed. Empoleon, on the other hand, only has Aqua Jet coming off of his base 86 Attack stat, whereas with a SubPetaya Agility set can use that excellent base 116 Special Attack stat.
 
Actually worked this EXACTLY the same on saturday at work, no joke. It's basically a rip off of subpetaya empoleon. :P
 
The thing is that you're talking about X-Scissor when Bug Bite's got more BP xD

Anyways, this set will not work very nicely unless you have Magnezone and Pursuiters on your team.
 
I think a set without the Liechi Berry would work even better, since you would be able to get rid of Substitute.

Scizor @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP | 252 Atk | 252 Spe

  • Agility
  • Superpower
  • Bullet Punch
  • Bug Bite/Night Slash/Pursuit
This set would obviously need some refining, but it seems much superior to Substitute + Pinch Berry. With this set, you're granted three attacks as opposed to two, gaining better coverage for it. This is just something off the top of my head though, so I doubt that it's very good.
 
The thing is that you're talking about X-Scissor when Bug Bite's got more BP xD

Anyways, this set will not work very nicely unless you have Magnezone and Pursuiters on your team.

He's using Swarm, so X-Scissor is the highest BP Bug STAB attack available for this set.

Anyways, no from me for the same reasons Setsuna outlined. Poor type coverage, and even though you resist Bullet Punch and Extremespeed, this still dies to both at under 25%.
 
Unfortunately no. Empoleon has the raw type coverage and power behind it that makes it powerful, and it doesn't have to rely on the extremely shaky Reversal. Also, it has better defenses and a 4x resistance to Bullet Punch, which makes it viable. Unfortunately, Scizor just can't compare.
 
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