Tournament SCL V PU Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Smogon Champions League 4 Discussion Thread -- PU edition! This thread will be used to discuss PU in SCL IV related topics, whether it’s about the players, general metagame trends, matches, predictions and so on.
Commencement Thread
Schedule
Power Rankings TBD
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PU Player Cores
Managers in italics
Starters in
bold
:gible: Studio Gible - Gilbert arenas, asa, Tuthur, Feliburn
:exeggutor-alola: Orange Islanders - MichaelderBeste2, sufys, zS, feen, Larry
:falinks: Indigo Platoon - kyuss, Esteb4n
:gyarados: Uncharted Terrors - Drud, DDJoe, pdt, Metallica126, BlackKnight_Gawain
:mew: Technical Machines - LpZ, hex, Piyu, ishtar, Hiko
:ninetales: Mt. Silver Foxes - avarice, LOOR, umbry
:zapdos-galar: Power Plant Dynamos - Jytcampbell, Excal
:toxapex: Showdown Shoguns - mind gaming, S1nnohC0nfirm3d, SEA
:melmetal: Circuit Breakers - MZ, OranBerryBlissey10, Stories
:aegislash: Arena Spartans - Void, DugZa, etern, eifo

Some of this info is subject to change, as starting lineups have not yet been released. Please let me know if you have knowledge of some of the starting slots in the less clear teams!

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Good luck to everyone participating this year, let's make this another fun year!
 
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Personal PRs, not meant to offend etc. etc. all that fun stuff!

1. :exeggutor-alola: Orange Islanders - MichaelderBeste2, sufys, zS, feen, Larry - It was hard to decide who should be #1 between Michael and mind, but coming off of a slam win made me just give him the edge. Though a concern would be team quality? I think sufys had a great PUPL and he's no slouch at all but if Michael isn't building then the pressure is on him to deliver (unless Michael gets outside help). I'm sure Michael will be motivated to learn and build himself though cuz I think he ended up on a team he really wanted to end up on. Very excited to watch his games!

2. :toxapex: Showdown Shoguns - mind gaming, S1nnohC0nfirm3d, SEA - I can't say much he owned last SCL and he did it while building his own stuff. I think Sinnoh is pretty unique himself in the way he approaches the tier so I'm not sure they have similar building styles and SEA is probably fine but idk mind if he does his own thing this season shouldn't need help and I'm sure he'll bring similar success to the table like he did last year.

3. :melmetal: Circuit Breakers - MZ, OranBerryBlissey10, Stories - This ranking might be a little high? I'm not sure. The reasoning I put him here is that out of the mainers he has more official experience, and he also has the most experience with the tier compared to the tour players who have to learn the tier in a week. That being said, SVPU is absolutely not a hard tier to learn in it's current state lol.

4. :ninetales: Mt. Silver Foxes - avarice, LOOR, umbry - He just went 9-1 in PUPL. Granted, he plays mostly old gens and doesn't know much of CG, but umbry will be sure to provide him with great teams and he's someone who I trust to pilot said teams. umbry has the capability to bring anyone to a good record solely off her prep and combined with avarice whos undoubtedly motivated to play a full SCL season, he'll hopefully bring the heat.

5. :gible: Studio Gible - Gilbert arenas, asa, Tuthur, Feliburn - Tbh I would've liked to see asa starting before passing the torch to Marcop but I again (again because I'm typing this after writing the Spartans excerpt) understand the wanting to put a tour player in PU mentality. I feel like if the effort is here from the Gibles starter to pick up the tier he can do pretty well with asa support.

6. :zapdos-galar: Power Plant Dynamos - Jytcampbell, Excal - b2b champs I'm sure the support will be there etc. etc. but its on Jyt to deliver so its up in the air.

7. :gyarados: Uncharted Terrors - Drud, DDJoe, pdt, Metallica126, BlackKnight_Gawain - Current PUPL champion Drud has the support of his PUPL co-manager, so I'm sure he'll see success this season. I do think some of his SV games in PUPL could've been a bit more refined and in a stage like SCL against players like mind and Michael, he'll need to smooth out those edges which is why I put him this low. That being said, if he's able to lock in this will be a fantastic season for him and I fully believe in him to deliver. There seem to be a lot of cooks in the kitchen here so hopefully it doesn't burn down. I feel like Drud wants the guidance of pdt and will lean towards that more but if pdt is too busy supporting other slots he's probably fine alone. DDJoe will be there to make sure no suspicious behavior is happening if pdt isn't around as much as I think he will be.

8. :falinks: Indigo Platoon - kyuss, Esteb4n - Glad to see Kyuss here! I think he will have some of the more unique brings this SCL which can catch people off guard and he's overall a good pilot. However, I think if those tech's and such he likes to bring don't pull through he might have a rough season. Him and Esteban is a great builder combo and so I'm pretty excited to see what they cook up together!

9. :aegislash: Arena Spartans - Void, DugZa, etern, eifo - The Spartans took the route of just slapping a tour player in PU and hoping for the best. I do think this was the correct way to approach PU this tour. This is imo just dependent on if DugZa's prep will carry hard enough, and I believe it will, but I'd give everyone else in the pool a slight edge regardless cuz to my zoomer knowledge Void is a DPP OU main and idk what else hes played or if he's delved into any Fairy gens at all and etc. WIshing them the best though :D.
 
Had a very hard time with specific rankings but I do feel like there's a solid 3 tiers that separate my expectations for how people might do beforehand.

Tier 1: Tour players with no reason to doubt a good run
mind gaming is a player that I doubt needs the drafted support he's got in S1nn0h and SEA, owned last year and seems to still have an excellent grasp on the meta with that open run
Michael was excellent last year without sufys support and has only done better in smogon tournaments since then, seems like another no-brainer
Jytcampbell has already been criminally underrated in the one unofficial ranking above me, idt excal support has ever flopped and last year this was a top-notch pair. I do not rank him significantly differently than michael and mind who I think are more sold as the top players in other people's eyes

Tier 2: Mainers with a good shot to do well
Kyuss is the one I'm strongest on despite being the only person in the pool without prior official experience, I just think he's been doing super well recently with builds I really enjoy
LpZ had a solid run last year and only seems to have done better in tours and gotten more into PU since then
Drud has the avengers of support and I'm also very high on him, it's just a hard pool and someone has to be a little lower

Tier 3: People I'm not totally sold on but at least one probably wildly outdoes expectations given past years
Gilbert arenas isn't a player I ever thought would want to start PU and asa support is cool, he's not a player I'm super familiar with though and my impression is he isn't so dominant that you rank him top of any pool you see him in like how people were, for example, gassing up mind gaming hard last year
avarice LOOR is such a weird combo that I just have no idea what to think, both have spent time popping off and flopping so yeah
Void has some of the best support someone who isn't heavily invested in SV PU could ask for in theory in doug+etern, but I'm lowering my expectations purely due to last year's spartans performance. If Doug couldn't get Soulwind a good performance then I no longer feel completely sold that whoever he supports is going to do well, even if I personally know how good his support can be at getting someone to overshoot expectations
 
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