Gen 1 Scyther (NU Mini) [GP: 1/1]

[5Dots]

”Indeed, can’t wait to get walled by Graveler”
[OVERVIEW]
Scyther has an array of applicable offensive tools in the NU metagame. Slash bypasses Pokemon relying on Reflect, such as Abra and some Clefable variants, while Swords Dance and Hyper Beam make it tough for Normal-neutral Pokemon to switch into. Scyther is also one of the fastest unboosted Pokemon in the metagame; it ties for the second-fastest Pokemon in the tier with Rapidash and has a superb critical hit ratio of 20.5%. Its already terrific Speed can be bolstered with Agility, meaning it cannot be pinned down by partial trappers and opposing Agility users like Dragonair and Moltres either. With adequate paralysis support and good prediction, Scyther can theoretically be used as a powerful late-game cleaner.

However, Scyther has too many flaws to warrant a spot on most teams. Its low bulk and horrid defensive typing render many attackers able to 2HKO or even OHKO it. These include notable Pokemon such as Blastoise, Nidoking, Golem, and Kingler. Scyther's reliance on Speed means that even with Agility, it is severely debilitated by paralysis compared to other sweepers. It also has a barren movepool: besides the miserably weak Wing Attack, it only possesses Normal-type attacks, meaning Rock-types like Golem and Kabutops can easily switch in and make progress against it. Other fast sweepers, such as Mr. Mime and Electrode, can provide more offensive presence throughout matches, as they sport better coverage moves and provide utility with status moves like Thunder Wave. While Scyther can be used to lure its counters and grant switch-in opportunities for its teammates like Blastoise and Kingler, this tends to be prediction-reliant and inconsistent.

[SET]
name: Double Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Slash
move 3: Hyper Beam
move 4: Agility

[SET COMMENTS]

Swords Dance makes Scyther's Hyper Beam one of the most threatening moves in the tier, always or possibly OHKOing Pokemon like Mr. Mime, Electrode, and Rapidash. Agility allows it to outspeed the entire unboosted metagame, notably including Electrode and Rapidash, which usually threaten it out with super effective moves. If Scyther is paralyzed, Agility can also remove the Speed drop. Slash is its primary attacking move, almost always scoring a critical hit and punishing foes for switching into predicted Swords Dance, 3HKOing foes like Charizard, Poliwhirl, and Ninetales. Unfortunately, it does not get a power boost with Swords Dance.

Scyther's shallow movepool leaves it with few other options. Agility is the most replaceable, as Scyther is already fast and does not need the additional Speed most of the time. Toxic discourages AgiliWrap Dragonair and Fire Spin users like Moltres, Charizard, and Rapidash from setting up on it. Unlike Slash, Double-Edge gets the power boost from Swords Dance and can be utilized if Slash's immediate power is not desired. Wing Attack can be used to damage Gastly, but not only is Gastly rare, Wing Attack also has lower damage than Slash even against super effective targets. Substitute can be used to ease prediction, rack up poison and burn damage, and fish for full paralysis and misses, such as against Fire-types like Charizard, Ninetales, and Moltres.

As Scyther struggles to make headway against Rock-types like Kabutops and Golem, Grass-types like Exeggcute and Weepinbell are useful teammates. Scyther is also vulnerable to Fire-types like Ninetales, Rapidash, and Moltres, so Water-types like Kabutops and Blastoise to withstand Fire- and Rock-type attacks are also appreciated. Scyther can function as a lure for Rock-type Pokemon, which makes it easier for its partners like Blastoise and Kingler to predict an attack. Sleep inducers such as Poliwhirl and Venomoth can cripple Scyther’s counters and can facilitate setup opportunities. In turn, Scyther can come in on predicted Rest from Pokemon like Poliwhirl and Blastoise, enabling it to more easily break through the opposition.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[5Dots, 543866]]
- Quality checked by: [[pac, 520967], [May, 236353]]
- Grammar checked by: [[CryoGyro, 331519]]

 

[5Dots]

I think this is ready for QC!

 

[pac]

Hey! Gonna leave feedback on Scyther. I think PvK's on to something with her pseudo GP style QC checks, so ima give it a shot.

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Bouta Get Walled By Geodude Gang

[OVERVIEW]
Scyther has access to great offensive moves in Slash, Swords Dance, Agility, and Hyper Beam. This is ,backed by not only high Attack and Speed Stats, but it is also further supported by granting its a superb critical hit ratio of 20.5%. With adequate paralysis support and its checks weakened or eliminated, it can theoretically be used as a powerful late-game cleaner.
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However, Scyther has too many flaws to warrant a spot on most teams: its low bulk and horrid defensive typing renders many attackers able to 2HKO or even OHKO it. These include Pokemon such as Blastoise and Nidoking with Blizzard, Golem with Rock Slide, and even Kingler with Crabhammer. These include notable Pokemon such as Blastoise, Nidoking, Golem, and Kingler. Scyther's reliance on speed means that compared to other cleaners (perhaps you mean revenge killer or sweeper? use whichever is appropriate.), it is much more debilitated by paralysis. It also has a barren movepool: Besides the miserably weak Wing Attack, it only possesses Normal-type moves to attack with, meaning the two relevant Rock-types, such as Golem and Kabutops, can easily switch in and make progress extremely difficult for it. As a Bug-type, Scyther is outclassed by Pinsir: while it lacks Agility, they sport similar movesets, but has crucial access in Bind to more reliably rack up chip damage, making it easier to slot on teams. (I disagree with this statement, I would remove it. They fulfill very different roles: Pinsir is SD + Bind, pivoting around and threatening random +2 HBeams. Scyther is just fast as fuck boi Double Dancer. They are going to play very differently.) Other fast sweepers, such as Mr. Mime and Electrode, can provide more utility throughout matches, as they sport better coverage moves and can provide utility with status moves like Thunder Wave. Ergo, Scyther is not recommended on most RBY NU teams and should be left to the sidelines. (This message is already conveyed earlier, so unnecessary fluff imo.)
[SET]
name: Double Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Agility
move 3: Slash
move 4: Hyper Beam

[SET COMMENTS]

Swords Dance racks up Scyther’s already strong Attack stat to even higher levels. makes Scyther's Hyper Beam one of the most threatening moves in the tier, landing a guaranteed or possible OHKO on Mr. Mime, Electrode, Rapidash, Raticate, Drowzee, and Poliwhirl. Agility allows it to outspeed the entire unboosted metagame, notably against Electrode and Rapidash., Pokemon which usually threaten it out with STAB Thunderbolt and Fire Blast respectively. Ifn the event of Scyther being is paralyzed, either Swords Dance or Agility can remove the speed drop from paralysis. (Swords Dance does not remove your speed drop, it reapplys opponent's paralysis speed drops.) Slash is its primary attacking move, always scoring a critical hit and punishing foes for switching into a predicted Swords Dance, which landing 3HKOes on foes like Charizard, Poliwhirl, and Ninetales. Unfortunately, it does not get a power boost with Swords Dance. Hyper Beam is its most powerful move, enabling it to OHKO Drowzee, Mr. Mime, and Raticate after a boost. (Hyper Beam has been mixed with Swords Dance's mention essentially)

Scyther's abysmal movepool leaves it with few other options to choose from. Toxic discourages Fire Spin users like Moltres, Charizard, and Rapidash, as well as AgiliWrap Dragonair., from switching in. Unlike Slash, Double-Edge gets the power boost from Swords Dance and can be utilized if Slash's immediate power is not desired. Wing Attack can be used to damage Gastly, but has lower damage than Slash even against super effective targets.
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As Scyther struggles to make progress against Rock-types like Kabutops and Golem, Grass-types like Exeggcute and Weepinbell are useful teammates as they can threaten them out with both status, and in Weepinbell's case, Razor Leaf. and STAB Grass-type moves. Scyther also is is also vulnerable to Fire-types like Ninetales, Rapidash, and Moltres, so partners like Kabutops, Golem, and Blastoise to stall out absorb Fire-type attacks are also appreciated. In turn, Scyther can revenge kill weakened foes like Mr. Mime and Nidoking with its speed. (Doesnt make sense in the context of what this paragraph is for) Scyther can function as a lure to Golem and Kabutops, which makes it easier for its partners like Blastoise and Kingler to come in and attack.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[5Dots, 543866]]
- Quality checked by: [[name, id], [name, id]]
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[pac]

QC 1/2

 

[Plague von Karma]

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ayo?

[OVERVIEW]
Scyther has an array of great offensive tools in the metagame. (Uhhh I don't think so. "Great" would be a word I attach to Charizard or something; great offensive tools are things like Thunder Wave and coverage) Slash bypasses Pokemon relying on Reflect, such as Clefable and Abra and some Clefable variants, (Clefable doesn't always run Reflect, though it is a cool set!) while Swords Dance and Hyper Beam make it tough to switch into for most neutral Pokemon, as they are backed by a respectable Attack stat lest they get KOed. Scyther is also one of the fastest unboosted Pokemon in the metagame, as it ties with the second-fastest Pokemon in the tier alongside Rapidash, which also grants it a superb critical hit ratio of 20.5%. Its already terrific Speed (referencing the stat itself = capitalise) can be bolstered to even higher levels with Agility, meaning it isn't shut down by Agility + partial trapping users like Dragonair and Moltres either. With adequate paralysis support and good predictions, Scyther can theoretically be used as a powerful late-game cleaner.

However, Scyther has too many flaws to warrant a spot on most teams: its low bulk and horrid defensive typing renders many attackers able to 2HKO or even OHKO it. These include notable Pokemon such as Blastoise, Nidoking, Golem, and Kingler. Scyther's reliance on Speed means that compared to other sweepers, while Agility helps, it is much more severely debilitated by paralysis. It also has a barren movepool: besides the miserably weak Wing Attack, it only possesses Normal-type moves to attack with, meaning Rock-types, such as Golem and Kabutops, can easily switch in and make progress extremely difficult for progress against it. (there is no progress for Scyther here, so prolly best to frame it this way) Other fast sweepers, such as Mr. Mime and Electrode, can provide more utility throughout matches, as they sport better coverage and provide utility with status moves like Thunder Wave. While Scyther can be used to lure its counters, this tends to be prediction-reliant and unreliable.

[SET]
name: Double Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Agility
move 3: Slash
move 4: Hyper Beam

[SET COMMENTS]

Swords Dance makes Scyther's Hyper Beam one of the most threatening moves in the tier, landing a guaranteed or possible OHKO on Mr. Mime, Electrode, Rapidash, Raticate, Drowzee, and Poliwhirl. Agility allows it to outspeed the entire unboosted metagame, notably against Electrode and Rapidash, Pokemon which usually threaten it out with STAB Thunderbolt and Fire Blast respectively. If Scyther is paralyzed, Agility can also remove the Speed drop from paralysis, enabling Scyther to continue being on the offensive. Slash is its primary attacking move, almost always (Technically there's a 0.4% chance it won't) scoring a critical hit and punishing foes for switching into a predicted Swords Dance, landing 3HKOes on foes like Charizard, Poliwhirl, and Ninetales. Unfortunately, it does not get a power boost with Swords Dance.

Scyther's shallow movepool leaves it with few other options to choose from. Toxic discourages Fire Spin users like Moltres, Charizard, and Rapidash, as well as AgiliWrap Dragonair, from switching in. Unlike Slash, Double-Edge gets the power boost from Swords Dance and can be utilized if Slash's immediate power is not desired. Wing Attack can be used to damage Gastly, but not only is Gastly rare, Wing Attack also has lower damage than Slash even against super effective targets. Substitute can be used to ease prediction and fish for misses, such as Fire-types like Charizard, Ninetales, and Moltres. This can also be used to stall out Toxic and Burn damage as well as fish for full paralysis.

I would consider Agility to be the most droppable option, consider mentioning this. If Scyther sets up both Swords Dance and Agility, the opponent has probably fallen asleep; usually it uses either depending on the situation in my experience. So maybe something like Toxic or Double-Edge over that could add some offensive flexibility. Hell, Double-Edge may even be main set worthy now that I think about it.

As Scyther struggles to make progress against Rock-types like Kabutops and Golem, Grass-types like Exeggcute and Weepinbell are useful teammates as they can threaten them out with both status and STAB Grass-type moves. Scyther is also vulnerable to Fire-types like Ninetales, Rapidash, and Moltres, so partners like Kabutops, Golem, and Blastoise to absorb Fire-type attacks are also appreciated. Scyther can function as a lure to Golem and Kabutops, which makes it easier for its partners like Blastoise and Kingler to come in and attack.

I feel like the 3rd paragraph can be compressed as-is and further expanded on. I don't see Scyther + Exeggcute working too well, but Blastoise and Kabutops cover virtually everything you covered as-is: both the Rock-types and Fire-types really hate them, and this comes with team compression as well. Kabutops comes with the bonus of having defensive synergy against Earthquake alongside Scyther, as well as forming an offensive core. Thereafter, you could discuss sleepers like Poliwhirl or Venomoth to enable Swords Dance setup. Perhaps mention areas where Scyther excels, such as switching in on Blastoise's Rest and trying to force its way through, having the opposing team's Normal resist removed, etc. Feel free to come to me with questions on this if you have trouble.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[5Dots, 543866]]
- Quality checked by: [[pacattacc, 520967], [Plague von Karma, 236353]]
- Grammar checked by: [[name, id]]

 

[5Dots]

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[OVERVIEW]
Scyther has an array of applicable offensive tools in the NU metagame. Slash bypasses Pokemon relying on Reflect, such as Abra and some Clefable variants, while Swords Dance and Hyper Beam make it tough for Normal-neutral Pokemon to switch into for most Pokemon taking neutral damage, lest they get KOed. Scyther is also one of the fastest unboosted Pokemon in the metagame,; (semi) as it ties with for the second-fastest Pokemon in the tier alongside with Rapidash, (comma) which also grants it and has a superb critical hit ratio of 20.5%. Its already terrific Speed can be bolstered to even higher levels with Agility, meaning it cannot be pinned down by partial trappers and opposing Agility users like Dragonair and Moltres either. With adequate paralysis support and good prediction, Scyther can theoretically be used as a powerful late-game cleaner.

However, Scyther has too many flaws to warrant a spot on most teams:. (per) (this should be made clear from the start; it's a bit cruel to lead people on for a paragraph) Its low bulk and horrid defensive typing render many attackers able to 2HKO or even OHKO it. These include notable Pokemon such as Blastoise, Nidoking, Golem, and Kingler. Scyther's reliance on Speed means that compared to other sweepers, while Agility helps even with Agility, it is severely debilitated by paralysis compared to other sweepers. It also has a barren movepool: besides the miserably weak Wing Attack, it only possesses Normal-type moves to attack with attacks, meaning Rock-types, (comma) such as Golem and Kabutops, (comma) can easily switch in and make progress against it. Other fast sweepers, such as Mr. Mime and Electrode, can provide more offensive presence throughout matches, as they sport better coverage moves and provide utility with status moves like Thunder Wave. While Scyther can be used to lure its counters, (to accomplish what?) this tends to be prediction-reliant and unreliable inconsistent. (double "rely" words)

[SET]
name: Double Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Slash
move 3: Hyper Beam
move 4: Agility

[SET COMMENTS]

Swords Dance makes Scyther's Hyper Beam one of the most threatening moves in the tier, landing a guaranteed or possible OHKO on always or possibly OHKOing Pokemon like Mr. Mime, Electrode, and Rapidash. Agility allows it to outspeed the entire unboosted metagame, notably against including Electrode and Rapidash, two examples which usually threaten it out with super effective moves. If Scyther is paralyzed, Agility can also remove the Speed drop from paralysis, enabling Scyther to continue being on the offensive. Slash is its primary attacking move, almost always scoring a critical hit and punishing foes for switching into a predicted Swords Dance, landing 3HKOs on 3HKOing foes like Charizard, Poliwhirl, and Ninetales. Unfortunately, it does not get a power boost with Swords Dance.

Scyther's shallow movepool leaves it with few other options to choose from. Agility is the most replaceable, as Scyther is already fast and does not need the additional Speed most of the time. Toxic discourages AgiliWrap Dragonair and Fire Spin users like Moltres, Charizard, and Rapidash, (comma) as well as AgiliWrap Dragonair, from setting up on it. Unlike Slash, Double-Edge gets the power boost from Swords Dance and can be utilized if Slash's immediate power is not desired. Wing Attack can be used to damage Gastly, but not only is Gastly rare, Wing Attack also has lower damage than Slash even against super effective targets. Substitute can be used to ease prediction, (comma) rack up poison and burn damage, and fish for full paralysis and misses, such as against Fire-types like Charizard, Ninetales, and Moltres. This can also be used to stall out Toxic and Burn damage as well as fish for full paralysis.

As Scyther struggles to make headway against Rock-types like Kabutops and Golem, Grass-types like Exeggcute and Weepinbell are useful teammates, as they can threaten them out with both status and STAB Grass-type moves. Scyther is also vulnerable to Fire-types like Ninetales, Rapidash, and Moltres, so Water-types like Kabutops and Blastoise to withstand Fire- and Rock-type attacks are also appreciated. Scyther can function as a lure to for Rock-type Pokemon, which makes it easier for its partners like Blastoise and Kingler to come in and attack. Sleep inducers such as Poliwhirl and Venomoth can cripple Scyther’s counters and can facilitate setup opportunities for it. In turn, Scyther can come in on predicted Rest from Pokemon like Poliwhirl and Blastoise, enabling it to more easily break through the opposition.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[5Dots, 543866]]
- Quality checked by: [[pac, 520967], [May, 236353]]
- Grammar checked by: [[name, id]]

 

[5Dots]

Implemented changes; I think this is ready for upload!

 

[Plague von Karma]

This is up, good job! Not to my phone, though...