1v1 Specs Gengar [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1]

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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Sludge Wave
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Dazzling Gleam
move 4: Trick / Energy Ball / Thunderbolt
item: Choice Specs
ability: Cursed Body
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Gengar being one of the strongest special attackers while carrying its unique Ghost / Poison typing gives it a spot in the 1v1 metagame, beating prominent Fairy-types such as Primarina, Sylveon, and Aromatisse. Sludge Wave is used to beat the aforementioned Fairy-types alongside Pokemon that are also weak to it or are frail like Choice Band Galarian Darmanitan and Rillaboom. Shadow Ball is used as Gengar's secondary STAB move and helps to beat Pokemon such as Galarian Corsola, non-Choice Scarf Durant, and physically defensive variants of Corviknight. Dazzling Gleam is used as coverage to defeat Dragon-types such as Kommo-o, non-Choice Scarf Hydreigon, and non-Choice Scarf Dracovish as well as Fighting-types such as Urshifu-S and Urshifu-R. Trick is used to beat Chansey, as well as other stall Pokemon such as Toxapex and non-Payback Type: Null. Energy Ball helps Gengar beat Water and Ground-types, namely non-Rindo Berry Gastrodon, non-Assault Vest Rhyperior, and non-Choice Scarf Diggersby. Thunderbolt beats Pokemon such as non-Wacan Berry Gyarados, specially defensive Corviknight, and non-Snarl Mandibuzz. Focus Blast can also be an option to beat non-Chople Berry Porygon-Z. Additionally, Gengar can run 100 Special Defense EVs to survive a Dark Pulse or Shadow Ball from Choice Scarf Porygon-Z, though it is not seen in higher levels of play.

Since Gengar is very frail, it loses to faster Pokemon such as Dragapult and Zeraora. As such, Pokemon like Gastrodon and Kommo-o are good teammates, and in return, Gengar beats Grass-types like Rillaboom, Whimsicott, and Celebi for Gastrodon and Fairy-types such as Primarina and Sylveon for Kommo-o. Sturdy Pokemon such as Steelix, Crustle, and Sawk also threaten Gengar, as it cannot OHKO them and is OHKOed back by those Pokemon. The previously mentioned Gastrodon makes for an excellent partner, as it beats the aforementioned Sturdy Pokemon, and Gengar takes care of Grass-types such as Rillaboom, Whimsicott, and non-Choice Scarf Celebi that threaten Gastrodon. Gengar is also threatened by Pokemon that carry Choice Scarf such as Galarian Darmanitan, Haxorus, and Gardevoir. Due to this, Torment Steelix and Aromatisse make for excellent partners, and in return, Gengar can beat defensive Arcanine for Steelix, Galarian Darmanitan for Aromatisse, and Primarina for both of them.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [Kaif, 455212]]
- Quality checked by: [[zioziotrip, 480297], [pqs, 425798]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Estronic, 240732]]
 
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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Shadow Ball
move 2: Sludge Wave
move 3: Dazzling Gleam
move 4: Energy Ball
item: Choice Specs
ability: Cursed Body
nature: Timid evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Gengar being one of the strongest special attackers along with its unique Ghost / Poison typing gives it a spot in the 1v1 metagame beating prominent Fairy-types such as Primarina, Sylveon, and Aromatisse. Shadow Ball is used as STAB and helps to beat Pokemon such as Corsola-Galar, Durant, and Physically Defensive variants of Corviknight. Sludge Wave is used to beat the aforementioned Fairy-types alongside Pokemon like Choice Band Darmanitan-Galar, and Rillaboommove this, kinda weird to mention sludge wave again when you already explained sball. Dazzling Gleam is used as coverage to defeat Dragon-types such as Kommo-o, non-Choice Scarf Hydreigon, and non-Choice Scarf Dracovish. Energy Ball beats Water-types and Ground-types namely Gastrodon, Rhyperior, and non-Choice Scarf Diggersby.

However as Gengar is very frail, it loses to faster Pokemon such as Dragapult, Zeraora, and Cinderace. As such, Pokemon like Gastrodon, and Kommo-o are good teammates, in return Gengar beats Grass-types like Rillaboom, Whimsicott, and Celebi for Gastrodon and Fairy-types such as Primarina and Sylveon for Kommo-o. Gengar is also threatened by Pokemon that carry Choice Scarf such as Darmanitan-Galar, Haxorus, and Gardevoir. Due to this, Torment Steelix and Trick Room Disable Aromatisse make for excellent partners as Gengar beats Pokemon such as Primarina and Defensive Arcanine that can threaten Steelix and the aforementioned Primarina again and Choice Band Darmanitan-Galar in the case of Aromatisse. Sturdy Pokemon such as Steelix, Crustle, and Sawk also threaten Gengar as it cannot OHKO them and is OHKO'd back by those Pokemon. Flame Orb Milotic makes for an excellent partner as it beats the aforementioned Sturdy Pokemon and Gengar takes care of Grass-types such as Rillaboom, Whimsicott, and Celebi that threaten Milotic.gastrodon and milo are redundant, find a better example
may have to make some more changes based on how it looks, tag me when implemented
 
hola amqc
[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Sludge Wave
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Dazzling Gleam
move 4: Energy Ball
item: Choice Specs
ability: Cursed Body
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]
Gengar being one of the strongest special attackers along with its unique Ghost / Poison typing gives it a spot in the 1v1 metagame beating prominent Fairy-types such as Primarina, Sylveon, and Aromatisse. Sludge Wave is used to beat the aforementioned Fairy-types alongside Pokemon like Choice Band Darmanitan-Galar, and Rillaboom. Shadow Ball is used as STAB and helps to beat Pokemon such as Corsola-Galar, Durant, and Physically Defensive variants of Corviknight. (<-- Would specify that you defeat non-Choice Scarf Durant (18% usage is relevant enough to mention imo). Galarian Corsola is a good mention but you have a 30% chance to lose given Cursed Body shenanigans, which should be mentioned.) Dazzling Gleam is used as coverage to defeat Dragon-types such as Kommo-o, non-Choice Scarf Hydreigon, and non-Choice Scarf Dracovish. (<-- Also covers non-Snarl Mandibuzz and the rare Obstagoon. Perhaps Obstagoon isn't worth mentioning, but remains an option nonetheless.) Energy Ball beats Water-types and Ground-types namely Gastrodon, Rhyperior, and non-Choice Scarf Diggersby.

However as Gengar is very frail, it loses to faster Pokemon such as Dragapult, Zeraora, and Cinderace. As such, Pokemon like Gastrodon, and Kommo-o are good teammates, (<-- Kommo will lose to Play Rough Zeraora which is much more standard in the current meta, as well as Substitute + Disable Dragapult. I find that Ice-types such as Avalugg and Choice Scarf Galarian Darmanitan are great partners considering that Gengar is able to remove troublesome Fairy-types.) in return Gengar beats Grass-types like Rillaboom, Whimsicott, and Celebi for Gastrodon and Fairy-types such as Primarina and Sylveon for Kommo-o. Gengar is also threatened by Pokemon that carry Choice Scarf such as Darmanitan-Galar, Haxorus, and Gardevoir. (This point can be merged above with the mention of faster pokemon to make for a more clear and concise phrase that outlines faster threats. At the moment there's a split in the middle where you discuss Gengar beating Grass-types, which is certainly a relevant point but interrupts the general flow quite a bit.) Due to this, Torment Steelix and Aromatisse make for excellent partners as Gengar beats Pokemon such as Primarina and Defensive Arcanine that can threaten Steelix and the aforementioned Primarina again and Choice Band Darmanitan-Galar in the case of Aromatisse. Sturdy Pokemon such as Steelix, Crustle, and Sawk also threaten Gengar as it cannot OHKO them and is OHKO'd back by those Pokemon. The previously mentioned Gastrodon makes for an excellent partner as it beats the aforementioned Sturdy Pokemon and Gengar takes care of Grass-types such as Rillaboom, Whimsicott, and Celebi that threaten Milotic. (<-- I'm assuming you just forgot to remove this Milotic mention as per zio's check. I think in general, this team options section needs to be more clearly structured. You've got great examples with sound logic behind all of them but the whole thing takes some thinking to comprehend; it almost feels like you've included too much information here? Maybe the lack of GP and the fact that this is still in early QC contributes. If you want, DM me on discord and I can re-write it with all the same information to make a bit more sense out of it all.)
 
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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Sludge Wave
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Dazzling Gleam
move 4: Energy Ball / Thunderbolt
fblast beats incineroar, non-chople berry tyranitar and kyurem (though misses make it not perfect), and non-choice scarf excadrill
thunderbolt beats gyarados, foul play mandibuzz, and specially defensive corviknight
trick beats toxapex and non payback type: null and just general stall shit
trick and focus blast should be a move mention, tbolt should be slashed
item: Choice Specs
ability: Cursed Body
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Gengar being one of the strongest special attackers along with its unique Ghost / Poison typing gives it a spot in the 1v1 metagame beating prominent Fairy-types such as Primarina, Sylveon, and Aromatisse. Sludge Wave is used to beat the aforementioned Fairy-types alongside Pokemon that are also weak to it or frail like Choice Band Darmanitan-Galar and Rillaboom. Shadow Ball is used as STAB and helps to beat Pokemon such as Corsola-Galar, non-Choice Scarf Durant, and Physically Defensive variants of Corviknight. Dazzling Gleam is used as coverage to defeat Dragon-types such as Kommo-o, non-Choice Scarf Hydreigon, and non-Choice Scarf Dracovish. Energy Ball beats Water-types and Ground-types namely non-Rindo Berry Gastrodon, non-Assault Vest Rhyperior, and non-Choice Scarf Diggersby.

However as Gengar is very frail, it loses to faster Pokemon such as Dragapult, Zeraora, and Cinderace. As such, Pokemon like Gastrodon, and Kommo-o are good teammates, in return Gengar beats Grass-types like Rillaboom, Whimsicott, and non-Choice Scarf Celebi for Gastrodon and Fairy-types such as Primarina and Sylveon for Kommo-o. Gengar is also threatened by Pokemon that carry Choice Scarf such as Darmanitan-Galar, Haxorus, and Gardevoir. Due to this, Torment Steelix and Aromatisse aromatisse loses to standard gardevoir and torment steelix loses to pain split... make for excellent partners as Gengar beats Pokemon such as Primarina and Defensive Arcanine that can threaten Steelix and the aforementioned Primarina again and Choice Band Darmanitan-Galar in the case of Aromatisse. Sturdy Pokemon such as Steelix, Crustle, and Sawk also threaten Gengar as it cannot OHKO them and is OHKO'd back by those Pokemon. The previously mentioned Gastrodon so why not just combine the points if you're gonna list the same teammate twice... this is redundant makes for an excellent partner as it beats the aforementioned Sturdy Pokemon and Gengar takes care of Grass-types such as Rillaboom, Whimsicott, and non-Choice Scarf Celebi that threaten it.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [Kaif, 455212]]
- Quality checked by: [[zioziotrip, 480297], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
this will need work. tag me when this is implemented and i'll give another look
 
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pqs said:
fblast beats incineroar, non-chople berry tyranitar and kyurem (though misses make it not perfect), and non-choice scarf excadrill
thunderbolt beats gyarados, foul play mandibuzz, and specially defensive corviknight
trick beats toxapex and non payback type: null and just general stall shit
trick and focus blast should be a move mention, tbolt should be slashed
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they run chople a lot, they run chople a lot so u hit like what, they run scarf a lot, ok i guess
wacan, they run snarl on every single set, they are all phys def so shadow ball beats it with drop fishing
trick is useless as the only relevant mon it beats needs to not have a significantly used move (payback on type:null)
soon.
 
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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Sludge Wave
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Dazzling Gleam
move 4: Energy Ball / Thunderbolt
item: Choice Specs
ability: Cursed Body
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]
Gengar being one of the strongest special attackers along with its unique Ghost / Poison typing gives it a spot in the 1v1 metagame beating prominent Fairy-types such as Primarina, Sylveon, and Aromatisse. Sludge Wave is used to beat the aforementioned Fairy-types alongside Pokemon that are also weak to it or frail like Choice Band Darmanitan-Galar and Rillaboom. Shadow Ball is used as STAB and helps to beat Pokemon such as Corsola-Galar, non-Choice Scarf Durant, and Physically Defensive variants of Corviknight. Dazzling Gleam is used as coverage to defeat Dragon-types such as Kommo-o, non-Choice Scarf Hydreigon, and non-Choice Scarf Dracovish. Energy Ball beats Water-types and Ground-types namely non-Rindo Berry Gastrodon, non-Assault Vest Rhyperior, and non-Choice Scarf Diggersby. Thunderbolt beats pokemon such as non-Wacan Berry Gyarados, Specially Defensive Corviknight, and non-Snarl Mandibuzz. Focus Blast can also be an option to beat pokemon like non-Chople Berry Incineroar and Silvally-Steel. Trick can be used to beat Stall pokemon such as Toxapex and non-Payback Type-Null.

However as Gengar is very frail, it loses to faster Pokemon such as Dragapult, Zeraora, and Cinderace. As such, Pokemon like Gastrodon, and Kommo-o are good teammates, in return Gengar beats Grass-types like Rillaboom, Whimsicott, and Celebi for Gastrodon and Fairy-types such as Primarina and Sylveon for Kommo-o. Sturdy Pokemon such as Steelix, Crustle, and Sawk also threaten Gengar as it cannot OHKO them and is OHKO'd back by those Pokemon. The previously mentioned Gastrodon makes for an excellent partner as it beats the aforementioned Sturdy Pokemon and Gengar takes care of Grass-types such as Rillaboom, Whimsicott, and non-Choice Scarf Celebi that threaten it. Gengar is also threatened by Pokemon that carry Choice Scarf such as Darmanitan-Galar, Haxorus, and Gardevoir. Due to this, Torment Steelix and Aromatisse make for excellent partners as Gengar beats Pokemon such as Primarina and Defensive Arcanine that can threaten Steelix and the aforementioned Primarina again and Choice Band Darmanitan-Galar in the case of Aromatisse.


[CREDITS]
- Written by: [Kaif, 455212]]
- Quality checked by: [[zioziotrip, 480297], [pqs, 425798]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
QC 2/2
 
Kaif slightly altered this for post-DLC

- added trick back as a main move, since it shuts down Chansey
- added 100 Spdef as a requirement for Focus Blast, since that lets Gengar tank a Dark Pulse from scarf PZ.
 
oh yeah and Kaif mention for the alt evs that scarf dark pulse/shadow ball isn't run in high levels of play

It'll probably be seen on ladder for a month or two before ppl get gud and realize its useless on scarf
 
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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Sludge Wave
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Dazzling Gleam
move 4: Trick / Energy Ball / Thunderbolt
item: Choice Specs
ability: Cursed Body
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Gengar being one of the strongest special attackers along with its while carrying its unique Ghost / Poison typing gives it a spot in the 1v1 metagame, (AC) beating prominent Fairy-types such as Primarina, Sylveon, and Aromatisse. Sludge Wave is used to beat the aforementioned Fairy-types alongside Pokemon that are also weak to it or are frail like Choice Band Galarian Darmanitan-Galar and Rillaboom. Shadow Ball is used as Gengar's secondary STAB move and helps to beat Pokemon such as Galarian Corsola-Galar, non-Choice Scarf Durant, and physically defensive variants of Corviknight. Dazzling Gleam is used as coverage to defeat Dragon-types such as Kommo-o, non-Choice Scarf Hydreigon, and non-Choice Scarf Dracovish as well as Fighting-types such as Urshifu-Single-Strike and Urshifu-Rapid-Strike. Trick is used to beat Chansey, (RC) as well as other stall Pokemon such as Toxapex and non-Payback Type: Null (hyphen -> semicolon). Energy Ball helps Gengar beats Water-types and Ground-types, (AC) namely non-Rindo Berry Gastrodon, non-Assault Vest Rhyperior, and non-Choice Scarf Diggersby. Thunderbolt beats Pokemon such as non-Wacan Berry Gyarados, specially defensive Corviknight, and non-Snarl Mandibuzz. Focus Blast can also be an option to beat non-Chople Berry Porygon-Z, if Gengar. (AP) Additionally, Gengar can runs 100 Special Defense EVs to survive a Dark Pulse or Shadow Ball from Choice Scarf Porygon-Z which is however, (AC) though it is not seen in higher levels of play.

However as Since Gengar is very frail, it loses to faster Pokemon such as Dragapult and Zeraora. As such, Pokemon like Gastrodon, (RC) and Kommo-o are good teammates, and in return, (AC) Gengar beats Grass-types like Rillaboom, Whimsicott, and Celebi for Gastrodon and Fairy-types such as Primarina and Sylveon for Kommo-o. Sturdy Pokemon such as Steelix, Crustle, and Sawk also threaten Gengar, (AC) as it cannot OHKO them and is OHKOed back by those Pokemon. The previously mentioned Gastrodon makes for an excellent partner, (AC) as it beats the aforementioned Sturdy Pokemon, (AC) and Gengar takes care of Grass-types such as Rillaboom, Whimsicott, and non-Choice Scarf Celebi that threaten it Gastrodon. Gengar is also threatened by Pokemon that carry Choice Scarf such as Galarian Darmanitan-Galar, Haxorus, and Gardevoir. Due to this, Torment Steelix and Aromatisse make for excellent partners as Gengar beats Pokemon such as Primarina and defensive Arcanine that can threaten Steelix and the aforementioned Primarina again and Choice Band Darmanitan-Galar in the case of Aromatisse., (AC) and in return, Gengar can beat defensive Arcanine for Steelix, Galarian Darmanitan for Aromatisse, and Primarina for both of them.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [Kaif, 455212]]
- Quality checked by: [[zioziotrip, 480297], [pqs, 425798]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
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