XY RU Spikes Hyper Offense

[Hopeee]

Hey guys its Fineon and i am here with ANOTHER RU Hyper Offensive team. This time i decided to build around a specs Dragalge and this is what i got!

Accelgor @ Focus Sash
Ability: Unburden
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Spikes
- Encore
- Bug Buzz
- Final Gambit

Accelgor was the first partner i chose to pair with Dragalge. Its speed tier allows it to outspeed many common leads, set up spikes, and encore them. Spikes is used for hazard support and to wear the upposing team down. Encore is used to trap pokemon into either set-up moves or hazards. Bug Buzz is used for STAB, and so that i dont have to use Final Gambit as an attacking move. Final Gambit in the last slot for blocking defog, and killing/doing alot of damage to common threats and/or walls.

Dragalge @ Choice Specs
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 200 HP / 252 SpA / 56 Spe
Modest Nature
- Sludge Wave
- Draco Meteor
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Scald

THE THREAT IS HERE. Specs is used for maximum power. Adaptibility makes Draco super powerful and makes it base power 260. the EV's are used to outspeed things like Defensive Tangrowth without investment. Modest is used cus Dragalge doesnt need the extra speed. Sludge Wave and Draco are used as Dragalge's dual STAB moves and so that it has super good coverage (bar steel types). Scald is used to hit Rhyperior alot more accurately and has a burn chance. Hidden Power Fire is used to hit things like Bronzong and Escavalier alot harder.

Altaria-Mega @ Altarianite
Ability: Pixilate
Happiness: 0
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Roost
- Dragon Dance
- Frustration

Altaria is here as my late game sweeper, and to form a mini dragon core with Dragalge. Substitute is there to dodge status moves and to form a mini-barrier around Altaria. Roost is to recover any damage taken, and to make more subs :] Dragon Dance is to boost Altaria's power, and makes it easier to sweep. Frustation is exactly the same as return, but makes Ditto weak if it decides to copy Altaria after a few boosts.

Kabutops @ Assault Vest
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Aqua Jet
- Stone Edge
- Rapid Spin

Kabutops is here to spin any hazards that are set on my side of the field. I decided to use Kabutops because it had good synergy with my dragon types. Kabutops tanks any of the Ice attacks with Assault Vest, and my dragons take any electric type attacks. Knock Off hits Doublade, and removes any items on the switch. Aqua Jet is for priority, and is my water STAB. Stone Edge is my rock types STAB. Rapid Spin is here to remove the hazards on my side of the field.

Fletchinder
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Acrobatics
- Will-O-Wisp
- Roost

Since my team had been having trouble with the many megas in the tier, i decided to run Fletchinder. Fletchinder is my check to M-Gallade, Lopunny, Sceptile, and sometimes Sharpedo. Swords Dance boosts Fletchinder's attack to high levels, and acts as my secondary sweeper. No-item Acrobatics is very powerful, and does over-half to most pokemon in the tier that dont resist it. Will-o-Wisp hits mons on the switch and halves their attack. Roost recovers damage from Fletchinder.

Lilligant (F) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Sleep Powder
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Healing Wish

Lilligant acts as my sort-of Moltres check, and can hit many things hard with Leaf Storm. Sleep Powder allows me to hit most threats and can switch out into any other mons in my team. Leaf Storm and HP Rock have decent coverage, and let me hit the majority of mons in the tier. Healing Wish lets me heal up any damage lost on my other mons on my team such as Altaria, Dragalge, and Fletchinder

Well heres my team guys and i hope you enjoy it!

 

[The Bravest Bird]

hi Cynthia'sMilotic, this looks like a pretty cool team, though i think there can be a little improvement

i see one issue, and that is registeel. it walls a large portion of your team and a curse variant can set up on most of your team. the lack of stealth rock is also worrying, considering the popularity of flying-types such as fletchinder and moltres. i also don't see what lilligant does for you, especially since a) it doesn't always beat scarf moltres, which is the most common variant currently, and b) you have av kabutops as a check. i try to refrain from too many big changes, but i think a support cobalion over lilligant would better benefit your team, providing stealth rocks, a solid duo with accelgor(my friend eonx can attest to that), a way to beat registeel, and a volt switch which can be cool for bringing your other teammates in safely. as extra insurance, i recommend focus blast over scald on dragalge to nail it, especially considering that a draco will nuke rhyperior already.

an optional change would be investing more into dragalge's speed to the point where it outspeeds alomomola(176 evs), while this does detract in a bit of bulk you are able to outspeed and cleanly 2hko with a sludge wave. optional because you can utilize it as set up fodder with subdd altaria, but you risk burn/toxic from doing so.

summary

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cobalion @ leftovers | justified
jolly nature | 160 hp / 96 atk / 252 spe
- close combat
- volt switch
- stealth rock
- taunt

dragalge @ choice specs | adaptability
modest nature | 80 hp / 252 spa / 176 spe
- sludge wave
- draco meteor
- hidden power [fire]
- focus blast

that's all. hope i helped :]

 

[Lemonade]

Hey man, I am a big fan of Mega Alt + Dragalge core :D

Anyway, I feel like Steel-types, especially Registeel, are troublesome to break. HP Fire Dragalge is good against 4x weaks, but less so against 2x weaks. I think you could simply run Earthquake over Substitute on Altaria. With an offensive EV spread, you really appreciate the coverage and benefit a bit less from Sub (I personally like bulky DD, Roost, Heal Bell, Frustration instead of Sub). A defensive spread doesn't really help you break Steels, but you can run 40 HP EVs to never be 2HKOed by Registeel's Iron Head (+1 EQ 2HKOes). Also, if you want to outspeed Adamant Mega Bee you need to run Jolly Alt; unfortunately you cannot outspeed Jolly Mega Bee. However, you also don't need full Speed investment, 164 Jolly is enough.

Altaria-Mega @ Altarianite
Ability: Pixilate
Happiness: 0
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spe or drop Speed lower and run a bit more bulk
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Roost
- Dragon Dance
- Frustration

This is a Spike stacking team after all, you want to threaten a large portion of the metagame after just 1 DD.

Being more susceptible to status is somewhat problematic, and one possible fix is to use Healing Wish Mesprit over Lilligant. Lilligant feels really awkward as a Scarfer, as using HP Rock to revenge Moltres (can't revenge Scarf Moltres btw) is just a bad move to be locked in to and Leaf Storm isn't a great move to RK with either since it can become easy setup fodder. Mesprit also gives you Stealth Rock, which helps pressure Moltres even more. Mesprit is also hard to Defog on.

Mesprit @ Life Orb / Colbur Berry (to troll the Dark-type moves)
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Psychic
- Ice Beam
- Healing Wish

 

[GOthee]

The choice of your pokemon types and synergies is perfect HOwever i dont know if Mega Altaria allowed in this tier?? It seem pretty broken for me . If its allowed great!.
SOme thoughts i had is maybe not using choice item in Dragalgae since it can be setupbait for steels and you dotn have many safe switchs so id recommend faking expert belt set or using a single type boost item. I do understand you need the extra power but if you get locked into a not effective move you cant switch very much
Also that sub roost altaria set is cool, it will probably become very popular!.. and do you have enough breakers for it to sweep after a dd?
My main concern is your Fletchinder with acsince i think it needs to set up before it can do some work, but i think it compensates with your lilligant Sleep power giving you opportunities to do so, but as i said lilligant being scarfed too can be locked into a move that enemy can use to do what he wants and you practically have to very carefull what pokemon you sacrifice so thats why i still dont know if scarf should be her item.

Extra question: Can't Fletchinder use flying gem for acrobatics first time use?

 

[Kableye]

The choice of your pokemon types and synergies is perfect HOwever i dont know if Mega Altaria allowed in this tier?? It seem pretty broken for me . If its allowed great!.
SOme thoughts i had is maybe not using choice item in Dragalgae since it can be setupbait for steels and you dotn have many safe switchs so id recommend faking expert belt set or using a single type boost item. I do understand you need the extra power but if you get locked into a not effective move you cant switch very much
Also that sub roost altaria set is cool, it will probably become very popular!.. and do you have enough breakers for it to sweep after a dd?
My main concern is your Fletchinder with acsince i think it needs to set up before it can do some work, but i think it compensates with your lilligant Sleep power giving you opportunities to do so, but as i said lilligant being scarfed too can be locked into a move that enemy can use to do what he wants and you practically have to very carefull what pokemon you sacrifice so thats why i still dont know if scarf should be her item.

Extra question: Can't Fletchinder use flying gem for acrobatics first time use?

Lol have you even played RU recently? Mega Gallade, Lopunny and Altaria are tearing the tier apart (although thankfully Gallade is leaving soon). And Flying gem isn't legal atm so his set is fine. Also Fletchinder is one of the best Pokemon atm, because it can revenge kill the above Megas, especially Gallade and Lopunny. Setting up isn't always nessesary.
Specs Dragalge also isn't a problem since they'll take massive damage on the switch in and he can easily double out to Cobalion if he decides to add it.

 

[GOthee]

Lol have you even played RU recently? Mega Gallade, Lopunny and Altaria are tearing the tier apart (although thankfully Gallade is leaving soon). And Flying gem isn't legal atm so his set is fine. Also Fletchinder is one of the best Pokemon atm, because it can revenge kill the above Megas, especially Gallade and Lopunny. Setting up isn't always nessesary.
Specs Dragalge also isn't a problem since they'll take massive damage on the switch in and he can easily double out to Cobalion if he decides to add it.

Well i guess Fletchinder role as mega revenge killer is appropiate for the meta as you described , you are right! However if he puts Cobalion he gets less offensive pressure Liligant offers and Sleep powder is very nice to help Altaria and his bird set up.Cobalion seems a nice answer for threats mentioned before but i' ll sure miss seeing the Lilligant in that team. Also do you have any info when Flying gem will be legal ??

 

[g]

Hi your team looks quite solid but i have some quick suggestions to help you improve it.

First of all you lack a spinblocker. In a spikes stacking team like yours keeping hazards up is clearly very important, especially if using a suicide lead like you are, and, while you can prevent most defoggers from defogging for free, a Rapid Spin user like Hitmonlee or Kabutops can just blew anything away. A suggestion i have to help you fix that problem is to replace Lilligant, which is the most replaceable member of your team by far, with Spiritomb. Not only spiritomb Spinblocks very effectively but it also gives you a nice strong priority move to still give you revenge capabilities Lilligant gave you and it also has the ability to pursuit trap Bronzong, who is particularly annoying for you.

@ black glasses | infiltrator
212 hp / 252 atk / 56 spe | adamant
foul play / pursuit / sucker punch / will-o-wisp | taunt

The second main problem is that your team lacks a Stealth Rock user. You all know how important Stealth Rock is for any team and if you are running an offensive team it is even more important as it will do more damage in the long run than Spikes. The best solution to this problem is probably using Omastar over Accelgor as a suicide lead. It won't change much in your team's sinergy to be honest and, while you might struggle a bit more against some other leads, being able to set up Stealth Rock is usually worth it.

@ focus sash | weak armor
4 def / 252 spa / 252 spe | timid
stealth rock / spikes / scald | hydro pump / ice beam

Finally i think you should change your Dragalge spread a bit using a lot more speed evs and a different moveset of Draco Meteor / Sludge Wave / Focus Blast / Hidden Power Fire | Dragon Pulse as Scald isnt useful at all and outdamaged by Draco Meteor in any case and running more speed lets you beat stuff like Alomomola even more easily. Also you should follow lemonade's suggestion regarding altaria

@ choice specs | adaptability
72 hp / 252 spa / 184 spe | modest (enough for min speed lanturn
draco meteor / sludge wave / focus blast / hidden power fire | dragon pulse

good luck!

 

[Hopeee]

hi Cynthia'sMilotic, this looks like a pretty cool team, though i think there can be a little improvement

i see one issue, and that is registeel. it walls a large portion of your team and a curse variant can set up on most of your team. the lack of stealth rock is also worrying, considering the popularity of flying-types such as fletchinder and moltres. i also don't see what lilligant does for you, especially since a) it doesn't always beat scarf moltres, which is the most common variant currently, and b) you have av kabutops as a check. i try to refrain from too many big changes, but i think a support cobalion over lilligant would better benefit your team, providing stealth rocks, a solid duo with accelgor(my friend eonx can attest to that), a way to beat registeel, and a volt switch which can be cool for bringing your other teammates in safely. as extra insurance, i recommend focus blast over scald on dragalge to nail it, especially considering that a draco will nuke rhyperior already.

an optional change would be investing more into dragalge's speed to the point where it outspeeds alomomola(176 evs), while this does detract in a bit of bulk you are able to outspeed and cleanly 2hko with a sludge wave. optional because you can utilize it as set up fodder with subdd altaria, but you risk burn/toxic from doing so.

summary

->

cobalion @ leftovers | justified
jolly nature | 160 hp / 96 atk / 252 spe
- close combat
- volt switch
- stealth rock
- taunt

dragalge @ choice specs | adaptability
modest nature | 80 hp / 252 spa / 176 spe
- sludge wave
- draco meteor
- hidden power [fire]
- focus blast

that's all. hope i helped :]

Thanks! I never thought about Cobalion. Although if i needed a check to it wouldnt SD be a better set? Since I assume that Close Combat uninvested does under half or lower, and they could predict that and switch out. Then again maybe a Sub SD set would work better?

 

[Hopeee]

Hey man, I am a big fan of Mega Alt + Dragalge core :D

Anyway, I feel like Steel-types, especially Registeel, are troublesome to break. HP Fire Dragalge is good against 4x weaks, but less so against 2x weaks. I think you could simply run Earthquake over Substitute on Altaria. With an offensive EV spread, you really appreciate the coverage and benefit a bit less from Sub (I personally like bulky DD, Roost, Heal Bell, Frustration instead of Sub). A defensive spread doesn't really help you break Steels, but you can run 40 HP EVs to never be 2HKOed by Registeel's Iron Head (+1 EQ 2HKOes). Also, if you want to outspeed Adamant Mega Bee you need to run Jolly Alt; unfortunately you cannot outspeed Jolly Mega Bee. However, you also don't need full Speed investment, 164 Jolly is enough.

Altaria-Mega @ Altarianite
Ability: Pixilate
Happiness: 0
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spe or drop Speed lower and run a bit more bulk
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Roost
- Dragon Dance
- Frustration

This is a Spike stacking team after all, you want to threaten a large portion of the metagame after just 1 DD.

Being more susceptible to status is somewhat problematic, and one possible fix is to use Healing Wish Mesprit over Lilligant. Lilligant feels really awkward as a Scarfer, as using HP Rock to revenge Moltres (can't revenge Scarf Moltres btw) is just a bad move to be locked in to and Leaf Storm isn't a great move to RK with either since it can become easy setup fodder. Mesprit also gives you Stealth Rock, which helps pressure Moltres even more. Mesprit is also hard to Defog on.

Mesprit @ Life Orb / Colbur Berry (to troll the Dark-type moves)
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Psychic
- Ice Beam
- Healing Wish

Hmm i never thought about running Mesprit. The only problem with that is It's quite easy to knock off on. Maybe I could do Mesprit + SD Cobalion and replace the accelgor with Cobalion? Otherwise i like the idea of running more bulk on Altaria! Thanks for the feedback :]

 

[Hopeee]

The choice of your pokemon types and synergies is perfect HOwever i dont know if Mega Altaria allowed in this tier?? It seem pretty broken for me . If its allowed great!.
SOme thoughts i had is maybe not using choice item in Dragalgae since it can be setupbait for steels and you dotn have many safe switchs so id recommend faking expert belt set or using a single type boost item. I do understand you need the extra power but if you get locked into a not effective move you cant switch very much
Also that sub roost altaria set is cool, it will probably become very popular!.. and do you have enough breakers for it to sweep after a dd?
My main concern is your Fletchinder with acsince i think it needs to set up before it can do some work, but i think it compensates with your lilligant Sleep power giving you opportunities to do so, but as i said lilligant being scarfed too can be locked into a move that enemy can use to do what he wants and you practically have to very carefull what pokemon you sacrifice so thats why i still dont know if scarf should be her item.

Extra question: Can't Fletchinder use flying gem for acrobatics first time use?

First off, I appreciate the feedback! Expert Belt Dragalge is an ok idea, although if i were to fake the specs, then i would have to run dragon pulse over draco due to being able to switch moves. Then, Altaria is getting banned Tuseday (due to suspect) so yeah. I do have a few breakers in Accelgor (Final Gambit) which does a hell of a lot wth FG, doing 84% to Aromatisse, and killing alot of offensive threats. Dragalge is my main breaker, killing most things that dont resist it with Draco. Also i dont think Flying Gem was released in ORAS.

 

[Hopeee]

Hi your team looks quite solid but i have some quick suggestions to help you improve it.

First of all you lack a spinblocker. In a spikes stacking team like yours keeping hazards up is clearly very important, especially if using a suicide lead like you are, and, while you can prevent most defoggers from defogging for free, a Rapid Spin user like Hitmonlee or Kabutops can just blew anything away. A suggestion i have to help you fix that problem is to replace Lilligant, which is the most replaceable member of your team by far, with Spiritomb. Not only spiritomb Spinblocks very effectively but it also gives you a nice strong priority move to still give you revenge capabilities Lilligant gave you and it also has the ability to pursuit trap Bronzong, who is particularly annoying for you.

@ black glasses | infiltrator
212 hp / 252 atk / 56 spe | adamant
foul play / pursuit / sucker punch / will-o-wisp | taunt

The second main problem is that your team lacks a Stealth Rock user. You all know how important Stealth Rock is for any team and if you are running an offensive team it is even more important as it will do more damage in the long run than Spikes. The best solution to this problem is probably using Omastar over Accelgor as a suicide lead. It won't change much in your team's sinergy to be honest and, while you might struggle a bit more against some other leads, being able to set up Stealth Rock is usually worth it.

@ focus sash | weak armor
4 def / 252 spa / 252 spe | timid
stealth rock / spikes / scald | hydro pump / ice beam

Finally i think you should change your Dragalge spread a bit using a lot more speed evs and a different moveset of Draco Meteor / Sludge Wave / Focus Blast / Hidden Power Fire | Dragon Pulse as Scald isnt useful at all and outdamaged by Draco Meteor in any case and running more speed lets you beat stuff like Alomomola even more easily. Also you should follow lemonade's suggestion regarding altaria

@ choice specs | adaptability
72 hp / 252 spa / 184 spe | modest (enough for min speed lanturn
draco meteor / sludge wave / focus blast / hidden power fire | dragon pulse

good luck!

Thanks so much Galbia! First off, Lilligant was just kinda thrown on there at the last second, cus it could healing wish and sleep powder and all those shenanigans. I had been using CM Virizion before it, but Moltres recked my team. I do agree with using a spinblocker, but most times i didnt set up spikes due to the fact that taking down or doing alot of damage to their lead was most important at that moment in time than spikes. Most times i dont have trouble with spinners, because i apply so much offensive pressure that it wasnt a big deal. The one problem with tomb, is that it doesnt apply enough offensive pressure as the other pokemon due, and leaves my team very weak to defog users. While it can will-o-wisp gligar, it isnt fast enough to block it with taunt.

Now to Omastar. I had been thinking about running it, it just doesnt do enough damage like Accelgor does. They do have pros and cons each, but Omastar just doesnt provide enough support out of hazards than Accelgor does. While I cant deny that Omastar can set up both hazards, it usually only gets up one.

I'll make sure to change the ev's on Dragalge, as im sure they are better than the ones i have :]