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Project SS PU Victim of the Week | Week 2 - Sneasel (Submissions)
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Stonjourner , Glaceon
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I believe this goes without saying, but you cannot vote for your own submission. Pick another submission please!
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raichu and stonjourner
Klang and Carkol
carkol, ston
Carkol & Electric Silvally
Raichu and carkol
Well folks. I just had to do this very same thing over in the RU Victim of the Week project I host due to that victim being banned as well but, since Noctowl has been banned from SS PU, I will now restart with a new victim. So, here we go with an oldie, but a goodie!
Week 1
Ok for real this time, the first victim to kill dead is.............
Mawile @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Play Rough
- Iron Head
- Sucker Punch
Voting will begin Friday morning, April 17!
Week 1
Ok for real this time, the first victim to kill dead is.............
Mawile @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Play Rough
- Iron Head
- Sucker Punch
Voting will begin Friday morning, April 17!
I nominate Heatmor as an offensive check to Sheer Force Life Orb Mawile.
The set if you just want to live sucker punch best as possible but still oneshot:
@ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 232 HP / 136 Atk / 4 Def / 136 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Fire Blast
- Giga Drain
- Sucker Punch
- Fire Lash
I had to edit this because I included two sets, even though they had the same item, just different EVs :( ; think this set is better than the other I put in, if anybody who saw the other set is looking at my change.
Hope you enjoyed reading and that you'll vote, but vote for whoever you want at the end of the day.
Side note: This thing should not be C+ in the viability rankings. Its not amazing, but as we can see, its not a bad Pokemon and does check the best Pokemon in the tier right now in my opinion. Hope people will use it more.
The set if you just want to live sucker punch best as possible but still oneshot:
@ Heavy-Duty BootsAbility: Flash Fire
EVs: 232 HP / 136 Atk / 4 Def / 136 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Fire Blast
- Giga Drain
- Sucker Punch
- Fire Lash
I was going to nominate Heatmor as a counter but then realised that I forgot to put sheer force. Dammit.
But anyway Heatmor is a really good offensive check. I run 136 speed to outspeed adamant mawile by one point, so that it is forced to click sucker punch or else get oneshot without doing any damage (play rough actually does more believe it or not). Heatmor lives sucker punch even after SD relatively well and as I may have implied above, I have run enough attack on the set to oneshot with fire lash if the player is scared that they miss with fire blast. I'm not going to include +4 calcs because firstly, they OHKO everything except klang or something, and nobody should be allowing an opponent mawile to get to +4. I'm going to be listing calcs in the order: Best for
--> best for .
Living Sucker Punch
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 232 HP / 4 Def Heatmor: 227-269 (61.5 - 72.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 232 HP / 4 Def Heatmor: 114-135 (30.8 - 36.5%) -- 64% chance to 3HKO
Oneshotting
Defensive Set: 136+ Atk Heatmor Fire Lash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mawile: 242-288 (100.4 - 119.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Defensive Set: 0 SpA Heatmor Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mawile: 398-470 (165.1 - 195%) -- guaranteed OHKO
But anyway Heatmor is a really good offensive check. I run 136 speed to outspeed adamant mawile by one point, so that it is forced to click sucker punch or else get oneshot without doing any damage (play rough actually does more believe it or not). Heatmor lives sucker punch even after SD relatively well and as I may have implied above, I have run enough attack on the set to oneshot with fire lash if the player is scared that they miss with fire blast. I'm not going to include +4 calcs because firstly, they OHKO everything except klang or something, and nobody should be allowing an opponent mawile to get to +4. I'm going to be listing calcs in the order: Best for
--> best for .Living
Sucker Punch+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 232 HP / 4 Def Heatmor: 227-269 (61.5 - 72.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 232 HP / 4 Def Heatmor: 114-135 (30.8 - 36.5%) -- 64% chance to 3HKO
Oneshotting
(check --> checkmate)
Defensive Set: 0 SpA Heatmor Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mawile: 398-470 (165.1 - 195%) -- guaranteed OHKO
I had to edit this because I included two sets, even though they had the same item, just different EVs :( ; think this set is better than the other I put in, if anybody who saw the other set is looking at my change.
Hope you enjoyed reading and that you'll vote, but vote for whoever you want at the end of the day.
Side note: This thing should not be C+ in the viability rankings. Its not amazing, but as we can see, its not a bad Pokemon and does check the best Pokemon in the tier right now in my opinion. Hope people will use it more.
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Katy
Banned deucer.
Palpitoad @ Eviolite
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 152 HP / 252 Def / 104 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Earth Power
- Scald
- Toxic
- Stealth Rock
is a check to mawile since he can come in hard on mawile and can threaten it out with both of its stabs in earth power and scald since earth power is able to almost OHKO it and scald has the chance to burn mawile to make it less useable for the rest of the game. palpitoad also has the necessary bulk to deal with this version and can still threaten mawile when it is at +2 since a +2 sucker punch won't kill paliptoad and iron head is resistet. calcs:
252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 152 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Palpitoad: 142-168 (43.1 - 51%) -- 47.3% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Iron Head vs. 152 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Palpitoad: 62-74 (18.8 - 22.4%) -- guaranteed 5HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 152 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Palpitoad: 57-68 (17.3 - 20.6%) -- possible 5HKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 152 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Palpitoad: 282-333 (85.7 - 101.2%) -- 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Iron Head vs. 152 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Palpitoad: 125-148 (37.9 - 44.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 152 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Palpitoad: 113-134 (34.3 - 40.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
0 SpA Palpitoad Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mawile: 218-260 (90.4 - 107.8%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
0 SpA Palpitoad Scald vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mawile: 99-117 (41 - 48.5%) -- 9.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Iron Head vs. 152 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Palpitoad: 62-74 (18.8 - 22.4%) -- guaranteed 5HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 152 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Palpitoad: 57-68 (17.3 - 20.6%) -- possible 5HKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 152 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Palpitoad: 282-333 (85.7 - 101.2%) -- 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Iron Head vs. 152 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Palpitoad: 125-148 (37.9 - 44.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 152 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Palpitoad: 113-134 (34.3 - 40.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
0 SpA Palpitoad Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mawile: 218-260 (90.4 - 107.8%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
0 SpA Palpitoad Scald vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mawile: 99-117 (41 - 48.5%) -- 9.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
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I nominate Lampent as a counter
Lampent @ Eviolite
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD (this spread could be probably be optimized a bit if you want lampent to handle other threats as well)
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split
- Flamethrower
- Hex/haze
Lampent can take two +2 STAB moves from Mawile, provided that there are no stealth rocks on the field, so that makes it a very reliable switch-in. It can play around sucker punch with wisp or pain split, and flamethrower always OHKO's even without investment. You can run haze to get rid of swords dance boosts, and it's generally pretty nice to have against other slow boosters like Musharna and Throh. Lampent can also come in on defensive varients of Mawile and threaten it out, since univensted Lampent always outspeeds univested Mawile. Do watch out for knock off though.
252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Lampent: 66-79 (20.3 - 24.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Lampent: 134-159 (41.3 - 49%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Lampent: 216-255 (66.6 - 78.7%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
^ you do kinda need defog support if you use Lampent.
0 SpA Lampent Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mawile: 302-356 (125.3 - 147.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Lampent: 134-159 (41.3 - 49%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Lampent: 216-255 (66.6 - 78.7%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
^ you do kinda need defog support if you use Lampent.
0 SpA Lampent Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mawile: 302-356 (125.3 - 147.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
THE TRUE MAWILE COUNTER
Klang @ Eviolite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 104 Def / 152 SpD
Careful Nature
- Shift Gear
- Gear Grind
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
Even running mostly Special Defense investment, Klang is able to easily check Mawile, resisting its dual STAB and being able to threaten it with boosted Gear Grinds. Even with Mawile at +2, with the given EV spread, Klang can easily take 2 Play Roughs and use Mawile to set up a Shift Gear and proceed to beat it with Gear Grind, or alternatively Rest up.
+1 0 Atk Klang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mawile: 152-182 (63 - 75.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 104 Def Eviolite Klang: 127-151 (39.1 - 46.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
Klang @ Eviolite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 104 Def / 152 SpD
Careful Nature
- Shift Gear
- Gear Grind
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
Even running mostly Special Defense investment, Klang is able to easily check Mawile, resisting its dual STAB and being able to threaten it with boosted Gear Grinds. Even with Mawile at +2, with the given EV spread, Klang can easily take 2 Play Roughs and use Mawile to set up a Shift Gear and proceed to beat it with Gear Grind, or alternatively Rest up.
+1 0 Atk Klang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mawile: 152-182 (63 - 75.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 104 Def Eviolite Klang: 127-151 (39.1 - 46.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
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BulbaBrain Please only post one set and one set only
Magnus0 Hey there! While it does work, Lampent is not ranked on our VR and will therefore be ignored my friend. Please revise your post with a ranked mon on our Viability Rankings
Magnus0 Hey there! While it does work, Lampent is not ranked on our VR and will therefore be ignored my friend. Please revise your post with a ranked mon on our Viability Rankings
changed.
Lapras @ Choice Specs
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 80 HP / 252 SpA / 176 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Surf
- Freeze-Dry
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
As long as Mawile's still at no modifications, this set makes for a solid
The EV spread puts Lapras at 421 HP
252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 80 HP / 0 Def Lapras: 246-290 (58.4 - 68.8%)
252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 80 HP / 0 Def Lapras: 99-117 (23.5 - 27.7%)
290 + 117 = 407 | Lapras lives
If Mawile wants to set up a Swords Dance on the switch:
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 80 HP / 0 Def Lapras: 198-233 (47 - 55.3%)
252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 80 HP / 0 Def Lapras: 246-290 (58.4 - 68.8%)
252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 80 HP / 0 Def Lapras: 99-117 (23.5 - 27.7%)
290 + 117 = 407 | Lapras lives
If Mawile wants to set up a Swords Dance on the switch:
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 80 HP / 0 Def Lapras: 198-233 (47 - 55.3%)
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lapras Surf vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mawile: 291-343 (120.7 - 142.3%)
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INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned deucer.
Carkol as counter
Carkol @ Eviolite
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 248 HP / 96 Def / 144 SpD / 20 Spe
Impish Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes
- Rock Blast
- Fire Blast
0- SpA Carkol Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 8 SpD Mawile: 224-266 (92.9 - 110.3%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 248 HP / 96+ Def Eviolite Carkol: 121-144 (33.3 - 39.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
You beat it super hard and gets hazard advantage
Run carkol if You don't think civilization will fall apart. Really is a good spinner worth trading at worst
Carkol @ Eviolite
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 248 HP / 96 Def / 144 SpD / 20 Spe
Impish Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes
- Rock Blast
- Fire Blast
0- SpA Carkol Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 8 SpD Mawile: 224-266 (92.9 - 110.3%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 248 HP / 96+ Def Eviolite Carkol: 121-144 (33.3 - 39.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
You beat it super hard and gets hazard advantage
Run carkol if You don't think civilization will fall apart. Really is a good spinner worth trading at worst
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Defensive Pivot Torracat
Torracat @ Eviolite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 Def / 252 Spe
Impish Nature
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn
- Will-O-Wisp
- Parting Shot
Torracat is one of the best counters of mawile due to his intimidating ability and his typing + good defense, in addition to having attacks that can help stop him and is capable of gaining momentum vs. also doing OHKO with Flare Blitz, that makes him a very scary counter of mawile.
Torracat @ Eviolite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 Def / 252 Spe
Impish Nature
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn
- Will-O-Wisp
- Parting Shot
Torracat is one of the best counters of mawile due to his intimidating ability and his typing + good defense, in addition to having attacks that can help stop him and is capable of gaining momentum vs. also doing OHKO with Flare Blitz, that makes him a very scary counter of mawile.
4 Atk Torracat Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mawile: 258-306 (107 - 126.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
-1 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Torracat: 49-58 (18 - 21.4%) -- possible 5HKO
-1 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Torracat: 43-52 (15.8 - 19.1%) -- possible 6HKO
-1 252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Torracat: 40-48 (14.7 - 17.7%) -- possible 6HKO
-1 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Torracat: 49-58 (18 - 21.4%) -- possible 5HKO
-1 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Torracat: 43-52 (15.8 - 19.1%) -- possible 6HKO
-1 252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Torracat: 40-48 (14.7 - 17.7%) -- possible 6HKO
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