Project SS PU Victim of the Week | Week 2 - Sneasel (Submissions)

[zS]

Physically Defensive (Mareanie) @ Eviolite
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Toxic Spikes/ Toxic
- Recover
- Scald/ Knock Off
- Haze​

Pretty surprised no one nomed it but here it is finally, Mareanie is the TRUE COUNTER to Mawile :
Mareanie is not even 4hkoed by Mawile and has a small chance of being 2hkoed at +2. It has access to haze to nullify the boosts so that mawile is never capable to kill it. In addition to that, Mareanie forces out mawile because it has access to Scald that does decent damage and can burn and Knock off that just knocks the life orb and makes mawile weaker. Having access to recover as an ability allows mareanie to switch out multiple times without being force to spam recover to keep his hps high.

Calc

252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Mareanie: 66-78 (21.7 - 25.7%) -- 1% chance to 4HKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Mareanie: 131-155 (43.2 - 51.1%) -- 4.7% chance to 2HKO
0 SpA Mareanie Scald vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mawile: 72-85 (29.8 - 35.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

 

[Squash]

reserving stonjourner again

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Stonjourner @ Babiri Berry
Ability: Power Spot
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Atk / 96 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Heat Crash
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake


Hi everyone, I nominate Stonjourner as a check to mawile, cuz it can switch on every attack from LO maw and can outspeed + ohko with heat crash/eq

Calcs :
252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Stonjourner: 157-187 (46 - 54.8%) -- 62.1% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Babiri Berry Stonjourner: 142-168 (41.6 - 49.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Stonjourner: 64-75 (18.7 - 21.9%) -- possible 5HKO

160+ Atk Stonjourner Heat Crash (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mawile: 298-352 (123.6 - 146%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[Lambovino]

Nominating Hippopotas as a Mawile check :


Hippopotas @ Eviolite
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Slack Off
- Earthquake
- Whirlwind​

Hippopotas can switch in mawile easily at +0, and take a hit at +2. In return, you can make him switch out with whirlwind or kill him with eq if he is low enough in hp. He also can set up hasard and has a good longevity with slack off.

Here are the calcs :

252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Hippopotas: 117-138 (34.4 - 40.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Hippopotas: 231-273 (67.9 - 80.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

0 Atk Hippopotas Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mawile: 188-224 (78 - 92.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[Shing]

Pyukumuku @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Block
- Recover
- Toxic
- Soak​

Pyukumuku does what it's best to; stopping setup sweepers and Mawile is no exception.
It ignores Sword Dance, Sucker Punch is useless, Iron Head can't 6OHKO it and Play Rough can only 3OHKO it.

While Pyukumuku can trap it, Soak Mawile so her moves do not get stab bonus, Toxic to outstall Mawile and has recovery so it can heal up and switch out multiple times. Which is why Pyukumuku is a Counter to Mawile.

Calcs

252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Pyukumuku: 122-146 (38.8 - 46.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
(Soak) 252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Pyukumuku: 82-97 (26.1 - 30.8%) -- 10.5% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

 

[Oathkeeper]

Manectric @ Choice Specs
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Overheat / Flamethrower
- Volt Switch
- Switcheroo

Check. Cannot take an unboosted Play Rough from Mawile, but it can take an Iron Head:

252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Manectric: 308-364 (109.6 - 129.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Mawile Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Manectric: 136-162 (48.3 - 57.6%) -- 94.9% chance to 2HKO

But, should Mane come in safely (which it always should because lets face it, Mane is not a counter to anything lol), it can OHKO with either STAB Thunderbolt or Overheat/Flamethrower:

252 SpA Choice Specs Manectric Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mawile: 306-360 (126.9 - 149.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Manectric Overheat vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mawile: 586-690 (243.1 - 286.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Checks

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User​	Submission (click image to go to it)​
BulbaBrain ​	​
Katy ​	​
Rubicon ​	​
INSANE CARZY GUY ​	​
Squash17 ​	​
Lambovino ​	​
Oathkeepre ​	(see above)​

Counters

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User​	Submission (click on image to go to it)​
SergioRules ​	​
RahelGamer03 ​	​
zS ​	​
Shing'n Streets ​	​

Now that you can vote on them, please vote for 2 check & 2 counters! Voting ends late Sunday/early Monday.

Checks: Heatmor, Stonjourner
Counters: Klang, Mareanie​

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

I still consider carkol a mawile counter at +2 it's a 3 hit ko on carkol and fire blast is at worse a 2 hit ko. Not the best counter set to mawile but it has bigger stuff to fry.

Checks: Heatmor and Hippo
Counters: Mareanie and Torracat

 

[zS]

Checks : Hippo Palpitoad
Counters : Torracat and Klang

 

[Shing]

Checks: Lambovino's Hippopotas and Squash17's Stonjourner.
Counters: zS's Mareanie and Sergiorules's Klang

 

[Rubicon]

Checks: Stonjourner, Manectric
Counters: Mareanie, Torracat

 

[BulbaBrain]

After a long hard thought and revising through the thread that took approximately 10 minutes I have come to my voting conclusions.
Checks: Hippopotas, Manectric
Counters: Torracat, Mareanie

 

[SergioRules]

Stonjourner, Manectric
Mareanie, Pyukumuku

 

[Raahel]

Checks: Heatmor, Manectric
Counters: Pyukumuku, Mareanie

 

[Squash]

Palpitoad, Manec
Mareanie, Klang

 

[Katy]

checks: lapras, manectric
counters: klang, mareanie

 

[frog_fucker]

Checks: Palpitoad, Heatmor
Counters: Klang, Torracat

 

[Zip-a-dee-do-da]

Checks: Stonjourner, Heatmor
Counters: Klang, Pyukumuku

 

[Bag of Trixx]

Checks: Palpitoad & Lapras
Counters: Klang & the kitty cat

 

[Antares]

Manetric stonjourner
Mareanie pyuku

 

[Oathkeeper]

Winners


Checks​

User​	Submission (click on image to go to it)​
Oathkeepre ​	(7 votes)​
Squash17 ​	(6 votes)​

Counters​

User​	Submission (click on image to go to it)​
zS​	(10 votes)​
SergioRules ​	(8 votes)​

Well done guys and girls on these submissions and the voting! As I was doing the votes, they got closer with each one I tallied. Let's make it like this every week, this is exciting!

Honorable mentions: No notable ones. You guys got them all!

Vote counts this week

Checks
Manectric - 7
Stonjourner - 6
Heatmor - 5
Palpitoad - 4
Hippopotas - 4
Lapras - 2
Carkol - 0

Counters
Mareanie - 10
Klang - 8
Torracat - 6
Pyukumuku - 4

Top Assassin Standings

Oathkeepre - 2
zS - 2
SergioRules - 1
Squash17 - 1

Week 2
The mon to kill dead this week is..............

Silvally-Flying @ Flying Memory
Ability: RKS System
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Multi-Attack
- Surf
- U-turn

OPTIONAL MOVES IT USES:
Flamethrower

Voting will begin on late Wednesday, April 22!​

 

[Bag of Trixx]

Reserving Pincurchin


Pincurchin @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Electric Surge
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Zing Zap
- Sucker Punch
- Recover
- Spikes
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Pincurchin is a very strong defensive counter to Silvally-Flying for its ability to comfortably switch into any attack Silvally wants to throw its way, even after a Swords Dance. On top of this, Pincurchin can threaten the Silvally with a powerful Zing Zap which easily OHKOs after some minor chip or conversely, finishing it off with Sucker Punch after Rocky Helmet chip.

Pincurchin can also heal off any unwanted damage taken from weaker attacks from Silvally through Recover, if Silvally has not already boosted or even set up hazards on the switch assuming Silvally realizes it cannot do much to the yellow Pyukumuku.

Here are some calcs to prove it.

+2 Multi-Attack

+2 252 Atk Silvally-Flying Multi-Attack vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Pincurchin: 117-138 (39 - 46%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Zing Zap

4 Atk Pincurchin Zing Zap vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Silvally-Flying in Electric Terrain: 272-324 (82.1 - 97.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Sucker Punch, after using Zing Zap

4 Atk Pincurchin Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Silvally-Flying: 53-63 (16 - 19%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

Suicide Steam Engine Carkol as Counter



I wanted to build something hyper offense to really make sure their u-turn would count for a as little as possible(I wouldn't u-turn a Carkol with my sweeper) and could also just perfectly fit all the little pieces perfectly.

This one was a really fun puzzle to put together, nothing a crafty Carkol Can't solve.
Burn up is always the big brain turn 1 play cause turn 2 You stone edge and even if they SD and try to avoid any speed boost and ko with +2 into surf, well You won't be fire type anymore to +2 Mutli->surf


Carkol @ Eviolite
Ability: Steam Engine
EVs: 40 HP / 244 Atk / 8 Def / 48 SpA / 168 SpD
Brave Nature
- Burn Up
- Stone Edge
- Stealth Rock
- Explosion


The HP/Def evs are unneeded, just don't invest in attack, it won't help with stone edge rolls

Numbers

0- SpA Silvally-Flying Surf vs. 40 HP / 168 SpD Eviolite Carkol: 160-192 (51.4 - 61.7%)
0- SpA Silvally-Flying Surf vs. 40 HP / 168 SpD Eviolite Carkol: 80-96 (25.7 - 30.8%) [without fire typing]
252 Atk Silvally-Flying Multi-Attack vs. 40 HP / 8 Def Eviolite Carkol: 57-68 (18.3 - 21.8%)
+2 252 Atk Silvally-Flying Multi-Attack vs. 40 HP / 8 Def Eviolite Carkol: 114-135 (36.6 - 43.4%)

244+ Atk Carkol Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Silvally-Flying: 228-270 (68.8 - 81.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
48 SpA Carkol Burn Up vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Silvally-Flying: 105-124 (31.7 - 37.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO


like this set is fire it 2 hit Kos lapras and lives a hydro after u-turn
252+ SpA Lapras Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 168 SpD Eviolite Carkol[NON-fire]: 216-254 (71.7 - 84.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[Squash]

reserving clang

Klang @ Eviolite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 180 Def / 76 SpD
Impish Nature
- Toxic
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Gear Grind​

Nominating Klang as a counter to silvally fly. Indeed, Klang isn’t 2hko by +4 MAttacks and isn’t 3hko by flamethrower (which is An optional move).

Calcs :
+4 252 Atk Silvally-Flying Multi-Attack vs. 252 HP / 180+ Def Eviolite Klang: 125-147 (38.5 - 45.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0- SpA Silvally-Flying Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 76 SpD Eviolite Klang: 78-94 (24 - 29%) -- 99% chance to 4HKO
0 Atk Klang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Silvally-Flying: 96-114 (29 - 34.4%) -- approx. 0.9% chance to 3HKO

 

[Katy]

raichu


Raichu @ Life Orb
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Thunderbolt
- Grass Knot
- Focus Blast

is a check to this silvally-form as it can not only come in on multi-attack twice but also can come in on surf / flamethrower and can either threaten silvally-flying out
or straight up ohko it in return with its own stab-option in thunderbolt. raichu is also faster therefore it is able to revenge kill this silvally-form or use it as
set-up fodder while threatening silvally-flying out. grass knot hits ground-types, which make up good teammates for silvally-flying and focus blast takes care of
dark- and steel-types and threatens them from the get go due to its high base power. due to the aforementioned reasons raichu is a really good check to
this particular silvally-form.

calcs:

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252 SpA Life Orb Raichu Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Silvally-Flying: 312-369 (94.2 - 111.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

252 Atk Silvally-Flying Multi-Attack vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Raichu: 127-150 (48.6 - 57.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
0- SpA Silvally-Flying Surf vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Raichu: 68-80 (26 - 30.6%) -- 12.5% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Silvally-Flying U-turn vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Raichu: 99-117 (37.9 - 44.8%) -- 4.7% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
0- SpA Silvally-Flying Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Raichu: 68-80 (26 - 30.6%) -- 12.5% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock

 

[BulbaBrain]

reserving Manectric
I nominate as a check.

@ Choice Specs
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Thunderbolt
- Overheat
- Switcheroo​

I mean, come on. Not only does Silvally Flying have 0 way to outspeed Manectric because it doesnt run Flame Charge (which is gimmicky and easy to beat). But Silvally Flying will never be able to live a Specs Tbolt from Manectric. Somehow it has a chance to live Specs Volt Switch - I have no idea how - but thunderbolt oneshots, which is the point.

Bonus

Manectric is also extremely good now that the best ground type (and the only one besides Whiscash that didn't have to run eviolite) in Silvally-ground is in PUBL. Manectric now only has to deal with the likes of Palpitoad , Whiscash , Mudbray and maybe the occasional Munchlax ; Out of these four mons, the first three just get bopped by grass types like Gourgeist or Shiinotic , and the latter gets absolutely destroyed by a fighting type such as Throh (especially) and Grapploct .

Not only that, but fighting and grass are both weak to the feared Flyvally (Flying). They greatly appreciate the help of Mane oneshotting this thing. This is the most powerful electric for a reason.

252 SpA Choice Specs Manectric Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Silvally-Flying: 396-468 (119.6 - 141.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Manectric Volt Switch vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Silvally-Flying: 308-366 (93 - 110.5%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

 

[SergioRules]

As a counter:

Silvally-Electric @ Electric Memory
Ability: RKS System
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Multi-Attack
- Ice Beam
- U-turn
- Swords Dance / Defog

What better way to beat a Silvally than your own Silvally? Silvally-Electric can take any hit from Silvally-Flying and threaten it back with an almost guaranteed OHKO with its own Multi Attack. And unlike Silvally-Rock, it isn't weak to any of Silvally's other coverage options since it has no Ground move.

252 Atk Silvally-Electric Multi-Attack vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Silvally-Flying: 330-390 (99.6 - 117.8%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO