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There's a few things you might wanna change on this team.... I would consider changing the Choice Scarf (while it is an excellent move on some leads) to an Occa Berry to save the very slow Metagross from fire moves, since, while not always, they do happen and it is a major weak point of him. That being said if you change the berry you may want to change Trick to Earthquake, but that's not the plan you had originally so it's up to you really how you want to play it.
Second for your Starmie I would for sure change your Hydro Pump to Surf. Just because you may loose some power but you get the accuracy so there's no doubt it will hit. Besides, if you hit a Infernape with a Surf it's a definite 1 hit KO with it's base power of 95 that alone is an almost 1HKO, plus the weakness it has to is PLUS the 1.5 add on Starmie has on it.. that's a grand total of 285 base stat. More then enough for any Infernape. Plus since you've made yourself faster with the max Speed EVs (good call) then it can't dodge it like Hydro Pump unless it switches out.
As for Azelf... you could probably take it out with a Surf if you went first since you maxed out it's Special Attack. If not at least almost kill it.
For your Gyarados, I myself use a similar set to that and find it very effective, however you might want to change the EV's to Attack and Speed, simply because yes this game is very physical, Gyarados isn't defensive simple as that and is more of a hard hitter then a defensive anything.
Finlay for the Rotm, I would say throw out overheat but there's no second option if you want a fire type move. Instead just be weary since it's your main sweeper, it's good the first few times, but then the entire Pokemon can't hold up very well.
I hope I helped at least a little, if not... then well ignore this whole thing but seriously consider what I've said... Either way best of luck!
Second for your Starmie I would for sure change your Hydro Pump to Surf. Just because you may loose some power but you get the accuracy so there's no doubt it will hit. Besides, if you hit a Infernape with a Surf it's a definite 1 hit KO with it's base power of 95 that alone is an almost 1HKO, plus the weakness it has to is PLUS the 1.5 add on Starmie has on it.. that's a grand total of 285 base stat. More then enough for any Infernape. Plus since you've made yourself faster with the max Speed EVs (good call) then it can't dodge it like Hydro Pump unless it switches out.
As for Azelf... you could probably take it out with a Surf if you went first since you maxed out it's Special Attack. If not at least almost kill it.
For your Gyarados, I myself use a similar set to that and find it very effective, however you might want to change the EV's to Attack and Speed, simply because yes this game is very physical, Gyarados isn't defensive simple as that and is more of a hard hitter then a defensive anything.
Finlay for the Rotm, I would say throw out overheat but there's no second option if you want a fire type move. Instead just be weary since it's your main sweeper, it's good the first few times, but then the entire Pokemon can't hold up very well.
I hope I helped at least a little, if not... then well ignore this whole thing but seriously consider what I've said... Either way best of luck!
Tiiempo, please fix your ScarfTom set. Rotom is meant to be a bulky revenge killer, not a sweeper. The EVs screw you over because when you Trick your Scarf, you won't have the bulk to take on sweepers. I suggest changing your Rotom-H EV spread to a Bulky one, which is 252 HP/140 Def/108 Spe with a Bold nature. I realize this does not have the sweeping potential of your current set, but after you Trick your Rotom can actually do something as opposed to being deadweight.
=O. I'm liking these suggesttions and am seriously considering taking most of them.
I like the idea of a bulky Rotom-H to take on sweepers, and with that i'm also considering using Choice Specs over Scarf as the extra speed won't offer much considering i'll be bulky and with a Bold Nature; while some extra power could be useful.
For Starmie, i've decided on Surf as opposed to Hyrdo Pump because i've recentley been screwed by the accuracy of Pump and the extra power really isn't worth it.
I'll consider changing the EV's on Gyara to a slightly more offensive spread, such as that of BulkyGyara.
As for Metagross, I like the idea of using Occa berry and Earthquake since my team is somewhat Tran weak, and getting a suprise KO on their Heatran would be cool. This will be tested.
Well thanks so far for the suggestions, keep em coming
I like the idea of a bulky Rotom-H to take on sweepers, and with that i'm also considering using Choice Specs over Scarf as the extra speed won't offer much considering i'll be bulky and with a Bold Nature; while some extra power could be useful.
For Starmie, i've decided on Surf as opposed to Hyrdo Pump because i've recentley been screwed by the accuracy of Pump and the extra power really isn't worth it.
I'll consider changing the EV's on Gyara to a slightly more offensive spread, such as that of BulkyGyara.
As for Metagross, I like the idea of using Occa berry and Earthquake since my team is somewhat Tran weak, and getting a suprise KO on their Heatran would be cool. This will be tested.
Well thanks so far for the suggestions, keep em coming
Oh hai thar Kab!
Well, this team is gonna have problems if your opponent has a Magius or Raikou. You basicly lost if they sent one out on Blissey. Raikou gets beaten by S-Toss, but Magius just laughs at your Blissey. Comes in on anything that isn't named Toxic, sets up a Sub as you have to sacrifice a Pokémon in order to take it out. Unless you're feeling lucky and think you can hit 2 Mashes on it with Gross, barring you have enough HP to live a Shadow Ball. And I don't think Forry's Gyro Balls are gonna hurt it much. Especially considering you first have to break their Sub. Don't forget some Magius spent DEF EV's to live that shit.
If you use Ice Beam over S-Toss on Bliss, you'd lose any day Raikou switches in on your Blissey (bar Toxic).
So yeah, I'd consider covering these threats. Bascily, any fast Sub Pokémon that can beat Blissey and force switches screws this team. SubApe (a non-standard) also comes to mind. Especially since physical variants can carry Thunderpunch for your Gyara.
TBH, I don't have a solid fix for this, as it would mean you'd have to throw your team structure 180 degrees for it. I just wanted to point this out to you =)
Well, this team is gonna have problems if your opponent has a Magius or Raikou. You basicly lost if they sent one out on Blissey. Raikou gets beaten by S-Toss, but Magius just laughs at your Blissey. Comes in on anything that isn't named Toxic, sets up a Sub as you have to sacrifice a Pokémon in order to take it out. Unless you're feeling lucky and think you can hit 2 Mashes on it with Gross, barring you have enough HP to live a Shadow Ball. And I don't think Forry's Gyro Balls are gonna hurt it much. Especially considering you first have to break their Sub. Don't forget some Magius spent DEF EV's to live that shit.
If you use Ice Beam over S-Toss on Bliss, you'd lose any day Raikou switches in on your Blissey (bar Toxic).
So yeah, I'd consider covering these threats. Bascily, any fast Sub Pokémon that can beat Blissey and force switches screws this team. SubApe (a non-standard) also comes to mind. Especially since physical variants can carry Thunderpunch for your Gyara.
TBH, I don't have a solid fix for this, as it would mean you'd have to throw your team structure 180 degrees for it. I just wanted to point this out to you =)