stalling post chomp (1st ever gormenstall o~o)

[gorm]

came up with a wee stall team that can function well with no chomp

Mountain of Love (Tyranitar) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/176 Atk/8 Spd/72 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Crunch
- Fire Punch
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake

reverse suicide lead SR layer (almost all suicide leads wont bother taunting). no one spins them away not named hitmontop if he's in. "anti lead."

Like a Rock (Spiritomb) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Def / 160 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Satk)
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power Fighting
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm

ppstalls an blocks spin. helps with luke. i almost wanna try hp ground xD

Plane to Heaven (Zapdos) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/160 Def/96 Spd
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Discharge
- Roar
- Roost
- Hidden Power [Ice]

i made zapdos faster than luke to fix my luke problem but id really rather something else

Usain Bolt (Machamp) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 76 HP/252 Atk/ 180 Spe
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Ice Punch
- Dynamicpunch
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

works great with para+spikes. forces switches of course. speed for the odd no speed heatran, bliss, vappy, skarm and tar.

Cool Kitty (Vaporeon) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 64 HP/252 Def/4 Spd/52 SAtk/136 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Wish
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Roar

Messed up EVs? Maybe. Honestly I miss protect and rarely roar...
helps with gayra/nape like its supposed to. helps with heatran too.

Ball of Twine (Forretress) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP/36 Def/220 SDef
Sassy nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes

Ipl's forry. lays spikes. good pokemon.


i'm pretty hera weak, but i don't want to use gliscor since that would disrupt the team synergy; which as you can probably guess is spikes and zapdos to take care of flyers to punish switches. classic "spikes" team with an almost advancey feel. its a brave new metagame folks!

kinda wish i could have more twave though. celebi somewhere? ;D

 

[IronGross]

Standart team, but great as well. I just don't think you need two Raor users on one team. Use Ice Beam on Vaporeon insted.

 

[LightWolf]

Nice team I would say(Hey you said on #fluodome there is a team to be rated, and I don't see any problem with it)

 

[Kingdrom]

I'm liking the team. Zapdos can deal with Heracross reasonably well though, especially with him getting Heat Wave in Platinum. Chances are this wouldn't be implemented on Shoddy soon, but it would nevertheless be a good option for him. If you can do this, using LO and 32 Ev's in Sp. Atk will ensure that Heracross is OHKO'ed by Heat Wave after a switch-in to SR and one layer of spikes, which is not too hard to set up. Lucario is also hit with a OHKO.

Considering that you may have issues with Salamence, you may want to go with 252 Hp, 92 Def, 32 Sp. Atk, 36 Sp. Def, 96 Spe. This gives you max HP, enough Special Defense to survive a Mixmence Draco Meteor with Sandstorm, and still keeps your speed (allows you to outstall Mixmence or OHKO with Hp Ice if you please). Unfortunately, neither your set nor this one survives a Heracross CB Stone Edge, so watch out for that. I would probably drop Roar for Heat Wave, since it would be more offensive because of the EV spread. Hp Ice is probably essential because of what I listed below.

This team could have issues with Mixmence, since Forretress isn't really up to taking even a -2 Fire Blast since it has nothing to retaliate with. I'm sure you could work around it though, at least Specsmence. Unless I'm missing something.

Really, there isn't much else. Looks good.

 

[Kir]

Nice Team!

I might try HP Ground on that exact Spiritomb that is in my current stall team.

I think that it might be in your best interest to keep roar on Vaporeon. That could really come in handy for CM Suicune, who might be somewhat of a problem.

Also, I could certainly see that T-Wave Celebi you mentioned working very well over Machamp.

Hope I helped!

EDIT: Heat Wave Zapdos? That sounds incredible! Could someone please give a link to the new Platinum info, without taking the RMT off topic too much? Thank you.

 

[Rag]

If you want Celebi you could try it over Zapdos, and run Will-o-Wisp on Spiritomb to deal with Luke. In my experience you'll need to invest a hefty ammount of EVs to deal some serious damage to Lucario. You'll do less then 50% against Lucario iirc, while Lucario got a good chance to 2HKO after a SD. With two boosts he'll OHKO your particular Spiritomb 56,25% of the time.

It would make your team a bit weaker to Megahorn though, but I don't see how Forretress, maybe even Machamp should have any trouble taking a couple of Megahorn. :) Reflect on Celebi could help a lot too.

Not a fully rate, but just a suggestion considering you'd want Celebi on your team. Seems pretty solid, good job. :)