Stanard OU Team #2

Rapetime

Sorry suppose to say "Standard OU Team #2", typo lol

Ok so its me again, this is gonna be my second RTM. The First team I built (Although still needs improvement) was based on a SD Lucario sweep. However, this team will be built around a DD T-Tar sweep. Thanks for all who have helped me with my first team, I have taken that knowlege of teambuilding that ive required on the first one and took it into account with this team aswell. Ok so heres my team sofar at a glance.

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(oooo, colorfull hehe)

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Metagross @ Occa Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP/232 Atk/12 Def/12 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Bullet Punch
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash

I decided to keep this as my lead considering how well it serves. Gets up rocks almost always and with its arcenal of moves it can pose as a serious threat to my oppenets team late game. No explosion here because I personally dont think its worth suicide. The pokemon handles MOST leads with success although has some trouble with Swamperts and Hippowdon. Other than that, props to Metagross lead :)

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Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Superpower
- Pursuit

Heres my scout. Scouting pokemon on my oppenets team with U-turn as they also take damage from rocks. He serves my team well since Tar and scizor share most of the common counters. This bug is also my only real defence againts other Tyranitars that have a DD or two unders its belt. Pursuit is here for obvious reasons. Deals with Latias, Cresselia and Celebi quite nicely. Superpower is here simply for that raw power. Also to have something to hit that Heatran that you know is switching in. Scizor is also a great pokemon to pick of weakend foes with a fast bullet.

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Rotom-w @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/168 Def/90 Spd
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Discharge
- Will-o-wisp
- Hydro Pump
- Shadow Ball???

Ok here once was a zapdos that was meant specifically for taking out Scizor. But as muisiquev24 suggested that there was no need for a zapdos counter if I am giving Tar the berry. So heres my Rotom. The washer unlike the other forms has a uniqe ability of being able to fight BandTar one on one which is really good. Washer is here to spread burn and paralysis around to make there life harder and mine easier. Placing this washer on my team also gives me a more effective way to counter Gyarados. After testing in a few battles I noticed I am not using Shadowball as often as my other moves. Maybe I should replace for a more usefull move? I am open to all suggestions to what may fit in the moveset better.

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Starmie @ Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hydro Pump
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Recover

Starmie is here to weakend my oppenets team making a Tar sweep less hard for me. LO starmie is a hard hitting pokemon that has no trouble eliminating pokemon that can stop Tyranitar. Her stab Hydropump alone can KO Hippowdon,Swampert,Gliscor (Althought I could just Icebeam), Rotom-a, Donphan and more. Icebeam and bolt for that awsome coverage. Also my best option againts vappy. Recover for the LO damage that ill be taking. Without Blissey in the wings, Starmie can be hell for my opponent if they are not ready for one.

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Latias (F) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Surf
- Trick
- Dragon Pulse

This hard hitting Latias is probably gonna be my best bet with Swamperts who would otherwise cause me some problems. Specs Latias will be lurring out all sorts of Heatrans, T-tars, Scizors and Metagross so surf is here for the 2hko on all of them. Dragonpulse for that second option if I cant afford to switch due to the stat drop and trick for once im done with the specs. This Latias also functions well as a Heatran/Infernape counter. But the problem is that I cant afford to be switching latias in and out of pokemon like crazy due to my lack of recover, Stealthrocks and the insane popularity of pursuit.

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Tyranitar (M) @ Babiri Berry
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Stone Edge
- Crunch
- Fire Punch

Once the way is clear for a sweep, I can safely bring this in and clean up the game. Took out Aquatail for Firepunch since now I dont have a "True" counter to scizor. I will have to be at around full health in order to take out scizor, after the berry I will take about 40% from his bullet. Stone-E easily kills most Heatrans and crunch will kill or at least take a giant chunk out of her health. Although I will rather wait till celebi is gone before I attempt to sweep. But other than that, once my counters are eliminated it shouldnt be to hard to get a T-tar sweep.

Too bad that this all looks alot better on paper then it actually is. Ive been testing out what I got so far on shoddy and ive noticed a big improvement but I know this can get better. I am having trouble with the guys that are around 1300 on the ladder. Thats when the battling starts getting serious. Come on guys what can I do to this team in order for it to run more smoothly and win more games? Is there a big hole in this team I am not seeing? Am I just not playing good enough? Is the concept of the team gennerally not good?


TEAM IN BATTLE
I didnt get much time to test this team, but the times I did it worked out pretty good. 2 out of 2 games were win. Gonna test some more later on.




CLOSING COMMENTS
Ok so theres my team. It is the second team ive tried to make specifically around one pokemon to sweep. This is my first draft so I know that there are still things to be ajusted. Please comment or PM me on you opinion, suggestions and ideas that might improve this team to be better than it already is. Hopefully I didnt make as much mistakes as I did with the first one lol. Well the first step of teambuilding is making mistakes am I right?


MY FIRST RMT
My first team was based around a SD Lucario sweep. Im still tryna improve that team so please please please take a look at that one aswell. Heres the link

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58865
 
It is perhaps redundant to have a counter to Scizor and also run Babiri Berry Tyranitar in the same set. You will probably be better off making sure Scizor is gone before you try and Sweep with Tyranitar and just run a Life Orb on Tyranitar.

Your team is really not that Scizor weak. He scares Tyranitar (though not as much with your current set), Latias, and kind of Starmie (he can pursuit you but he really won't enjoy a boosted Surf, and you do resist his BP).

My first recommendation is that you change Zapdos to a defensive Wash Rotom. You won't counter Scizor as directly as well, and you may have a harder time against Swampert. However, you will be able to toss Burn's around, you will be able to beat CB Tyranitar 1v1, and you'll have a much easier time against Gyarados.

Rotom-w @ Leftovers
252 Hp / 168 Def / 88 Spe
Bold
~Discharge
~Will-o-Wisp
~Shadow Ball
~Hydro Pump

If you do make this change (though I recommend this change even if you don't make the change), give Tyranitar Fire Punch over Aqua Tail. This way, you will definitely get rid of Scizor, and Tyranitar can act as both a Scizor counter and a sweeper. If you don't get a full sweep in with Tyranitar but you do get rid of Scizor, then Latias will likely be able to have a field day on your opponents team.

Another change I recommend if you do take the Rotom-w suggestion is to give Latias Choice Specs, changing your EV spread to 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Hp, and changing Thunderbolt to Dragon Pulse. This will give you another hard hitting potential sweeper (with the change to Dragon Pulse) that will work effectively in tandem with Tyranitar. They will both work well if Scizor is nonexistant, and Tyranitar can serve the purpose of getting rid of him for his own sweeping sake, or for the benefit of Latias. Even a Metagross can only switch into a Choice Spec's Draco Meteor so many times. I suggest you go Modest as well; Scizor can OHKO a DD Salamence after SR damage with Bullet Punch, and if its a Mixmence, Modest Latias will outspeed it.

I hope this helps!
 
musiquev24 said:
It is perhaps redundant to have a counter to Scizor and also run Babiri Berry Tyranitar in the same set. You will probably be better off making sure Scizor is gone before you try and Sweep with Tyranitar and just run a Life Orb on Tyranitar.

Your team is really not that Scizor weak. He scares Tyranitar (though not as much with your current set), Latias, and kind of Starmie (he can pursuit you but he really won't enjoy a boosted Surf, and you do resist his BP).

My first recommendation is that you change Zapdos to a defensive Wash Rotom. You won't counter Scizor as directly as well, and you may have a harder time against Swampert. However, you will be able to toss Burn's around, you will be able to beat CB Tyranitar 1v1, and you'll have a much easier time against Gyarados.

Rotom-w @ Leftovers
252 Hp / 168 Def / 88 Spe
Bold
~Discharge
~Will-o-Wisp
~Shadow Ball
~Hydro Pump

If you do make this change (though I recommend this change even if you don't make the change), give Tyranitar Fire Punch over Aqua Tail. This way, you will definitely get rid of Scizor, and Tyranitar can act as both a Scizor counter and a sweeper. If you don't get a full sweep in with Tyranitar but you do get rid of Scizor, then Latias will likely be able to have a field day on your opponents team.

Another change I recommend if you do take the Rotom-w suggestion is to give Latias Choice Specs, changing your EV spread to 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Hp, and changing Thunderbolt to Dragon Pulse. This will give you another hard hitting potential sweeper (with the change to Dragon Pulse) that will work effectively in tandem with Tyranitar. They will both work well if Scizor is nonexistant, and Tyranitar can serve the purpose of getting rid of him for his own sweeping sake, or for the benefit of Latias. Even a Metagross can only switch into a Choice Spec's Draco Meteor so many times. I suggest you go Modest as well; Scizor can OHKO a DD Salamence after SR damage with Bullet Punch, and if its a Mixmence, Modest Latias will outspeed it.

I hope this helps!
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Oh thanks im about to try that Rotom out right now. You make a good poitn about switching scarf with specs but im still worried about salamence. Can a Bullet from my band scizor really kill a salamence after rocks? Because ive seen lots of them survive that attack.
Also how well does the washer handle Gyarados?
 
Rapetime said:
Oh thanks im about to try that Rotom out right now. You make a good poitn about switching scarf with specs but im still worried about salamence. Can a Bullet from my band scizor really kill a salamence after rocks? Because ive seen lots of them survive that attack.
Also how well does the washer handle Gyarados?
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Choice Band Scizor Bullet Punch vs. min/min Dragon Dance Salamence: 58% - 69%

You won't OHKO, but it will die if it attacks you (from Life Orb damage). You will lose Scizor in the process unless it also takes damage from sandstorm or some other small attack, but often enough people will want to save Salamence, so just bringing in Scizor on Salamence is enough to scare him out. This puts him that much closer to dying thanks to Stealth Rock damage. Playing smart is the best way to deal with Salamence.

+1 Max Atk Adamant Gyarados Waterfall vs. Rotom-w: 66% - 77%

You OHKO back with Discharge. Much like in the case of Salamence, most Gyardos will just switch out at the site of Rotom.

As for Shadow Ball, it certainly doesn't have as much use as it does on other Rotom's, but there aren't many other moves to use on the set.
 
A lot of people do not consider this, but I have noticed that you do have a large weavile problem. It can eliminate any of the last four pokemon in your team very easily. Albeit it can do nothing to scizor, you probably can not do much if scizor dies. I am not too sure how you can fix this problem, but thought I'd mention it.
 
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