Suicide is rain in pain

PokeLawyer

Well, this is my first RMT on the site and also my first Ev trained team, I'm very noob so I expect you to help me a little... Suggestions are very welcome :D
So, water has been my favourite type since I Gen. With Drizzle in OU I thought it was my time for my first rain team in this gen... And everybody knows who can let rain clouds come -_- and add one of my beloved pokemon of this gen: Tornadus. The name comes from a song I was thinking of when I designed the team and the names of my pokes comes sometimes at random and some are my friends' names... Now with the team.
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The first thing I want is rain: a big storm which can be abused by pokemon with strong STABed and strong coverage moves... SO the main thing I chose was:
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Yuki @ ChoiceScarf
Drzizzle
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature (+SpA, -Atk)
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Focus Blast
- HP Grass​

Scarf Poli to have a response to sandstorm teams. Currently trying him

Tornadus used to be here, but I decided to go with Thundurus
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Nobu @ Leftovers
Prankster
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature (+SpA, -Atk)
- Nasty Plot
- Thunder
- HP Ice
- Focus Blast​

Changed Tornadus for Thundurus for STABed Thunder...Pretty basic set eith Leftovers as New World Order Said, I took mst of his suggestions for my team as I tried it in wifi battles

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Jairo @ Life Orb
Dry Skin
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpA)
- Swords Dance
- Cross Chop
- Sucker Punch
- Ice Punch​
He is named, after one of my closest friend. Dry Skin to abuse rain and healing Life Orbs cons. My physicall choice.
No much to explain here, but I think I'm going to try with Stone Edge instead of Ice Punch, I need some advice here plz _-_
Also, do you think a Choice Band set could work here?

Thanks to New World Order, now I have my own spikes and a way of battling Dragons that might come in my way. Ferro is way cooler than Forre :D
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Vance @ Leftovers
Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 48 Def / 208 SpD
Relaxed Nature (+Def, - Spe)
- Spikes
- Leech Seed
- Power Whip
- Gyro Ball​
Decided to give it full Def development since I'm running a supportive Special wall too...
Tentacruel used to be here, but having 3 pokes weak to Electric moves wasnt good at all., He is inmune to Toxic Spikes while spinning away them and setting my own. Plan to switch in a choice-locked physicall sweeper and do his job. I'm using Volt Switch to scout attacks but I'm not sure of it. is EQ a better move for him?
He is named after a linux Anti Virus lol

Then I needed something to sponge special hits... And we know someone who can handle much of them with ease while giving me the chance to support my team and statusing my foe's pokes...
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Diana @ Leftover
Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature (+Def, - Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Softboiled
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave​
Yup, the Cleric set. She heals status for all of my team in a single turn. I'm not sure if going with ST or Thunder in the third slot, would it be better Thunder due to rain or should I go classic with ST?
Since I'm running Toxic Spikes I decided to go with TWave crippling those nasty Steel-Pokes who are inmune to Toxic, hopefully giving my team advantage due to speed...
She's named after my best friend, because she is a big support in my life!

And finally, a bulky water who could abuse rain.... And who is better at the job than Rotom-W?
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Doug @ Leftovers
Levitate
EVs: 112 HP / 252 SpA / 144 Spe
Modest Nature (+SpA, -Atk)
- Thunder
- Hydro Pump
- WoW
- Pain Split​
Pretty standard set, Thunder using rain for perfect accuracy, as Blissey is packing TWave I was thinking of changing it to Charge Beam or HP Ice. how should I go here? Also maybe a spin blocker would be useful instead of him here, but I'm not so familiar with spin blocking this Gen x.x Help here plz
He's named after one of my closest friends too :D
WoW was chosen after a Scizor beat my team x.x


And, that's how my first EVd team is... Maybe is a little noob but I'm trying my best ^^
English is not my first language, so any spelling mistake plz let me know too (I'll be gratefull :D)
RMT plz :D
 
Ice Punch on Toxicroak is better for Gliscor and Dragons.
Volt Switch on Foretress is better because if you run EQ you will become set-up bait for Air Ballon Mangnezone.
S-Toss on Blissey since you'll do more damage with it.
T-Wave/Will - o - Wisp on Rotom is better to cripple your opponents pokemon.
 
Hi, and welcome to Smogon.

First of all, this isn't half bad for a first team, but your team does not like opposing rain teams at all. Thundurus comes in and instantly starts rampaging through your team. On a rain team, and electric resist is a must. Your team's only response to dragons is Forretress, who truly cannot do anything besides set up hazards. Since the only dragon that can be hurt by land based entry hazards is Haxorus, its not going to help much either. I suggest running a standard Ferrothorn. Paired with Rotom-W, it gives you a great combination to take on opposing rain teams. It also functions as a spiker and offers similar resistances with Forry, but it can hit the dragons back with Gyro Ball.

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Iron Barbs
Relaxed
252 Hp/ 48 Def/ 208 SpD
Spikes
Leech Seed
Power Whip
Gyro Ball

Your team also currently lacks a response against sand teams. I suggest switching Politoed to a choice scarf variant. This allows it to revenge kill Excadrill and non Scarf Landorus/ Terrakion. If you want an option over Focus Blast, I suggest giving Perish Song a go. Shuts down somebody who gets too many boosts, and can be used against those troublesome baton pass teams.

As for your move conundrum, I suggest Ice Punch>Stone Edge and a Jolly nature on Toxicroak, standard Mynism Toxicroak is a great endgame cleaner.

Seismic Toss>Thunder on Blissey, so you're not a sitting duck against ground types.

Volt Switch instead of Thunder Wave/ Charge Beam on Rotom-W. This can give you a lot of momentum throughout the match.
 
The only pokemon on your team that wont like the loss of Forretress is Tornadus, which is a small price to pay for being able to take on OU's dragons. Tornadus usually only comes in once or twice a game, and just hits till it dies anyways. If you're worried, then I suggest another abuser: Pelipper. And I'm being completely serious. Pelipper isn't nearly as dominant offensively, but with Rain Dish, Scald and Stockpile it becomes very difficult to take down without and electric move. Roost also gets rid of the SR problems.

Pelipper @ Leftovers
Rain Dish
Calm
252 Hp/ 252 SpD/ 4 Def
Scald
Hurricane
Stockpile
Roost

If you just plain find Pelipper too ridiculous an abuser. Another alternative is Jirachi, who allows you to deal with Reuniclus without resorting to Sucker Punch/ Perish Song.

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Serene Grace
Timid
252 Hp/ 252 Spe/ 4 SpA
Substitute
Calm Mind
Thunder
Water Pulse
 
THinking about changing Tornadus for Thundurus. What do you think?
Also thanks for Ferro's, I tested it and I'm changing Forre for him :)
 
Yeah Thundurus will probably be a better choice than Tornadus as long as you run a Lum Berry/ Leftovers instead of Life Orb. This gives it more survivability than Tornadus could ever hope for.
 
This team could really benefit from Magnezone support. Magnezone can stop Ferrothorn from coming in and spiking all over blissey and politoed without worry. Skarmory is in the same boat although it is only able to spike on blissey and toxicroak. A boosted cross chop will do a lot of damage to Skarmory, but it will still be able to ko toxicroak with brave bird with little to no problems. Rotom-W is the team member to replace Magnezone with. It seems like the odd man out on this team, and although it is stopping Ferrothorn to some extent, Magnezone will serve you much better. With Ferrothorn and Skarmory out of the picture, Toxicroak and Politoed will have a much easier time damaging the opposing team as well.

Still extremely Thundurus weak. I feel that blissey is really slowing the momentum of this team down. Although you could easily run a calm nature and have a decent check to most of the standard Thundurus sets, it really does not fit the offensive nature of this team. Life orb Deoxys-S is a very interesting option over blissey as a decent check for Thundurus. Since Magnezone and Tornadus trap and lure in the common switch ins to life orb Deoxys, such as Jirachi and Scizor, it should have no problem cleaning up teams later in the match. Deoxys can also give you a decent check to Thundurus. Although not the best, it really fits on this team very well especially with the other members of this team.

Politoed could really use a choice scarf at this point. Excadrill still remains a pretty large threat outside of the rain and scarf Politoed will not only help you patch up the weakness to Excadrill, but it will also help you win against threats such as Mamoswine, Landorus, Terrakion, and the like. Ferrothorn could also really use stealth rock. Although spikes are nice, stealth rock is pretty essential especially on more offensively based teams such as this for gaining extra ko's especially on threats that aren't affected by spikes. gl.

Magnezone @ Leftovers
Modest 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Magnet Pull
substitute / thunderbolt / flash cannon / hidden power [fire]

Deoxys-S @ Life Orb
Hasty 28 Atk / 252 SpA / 228 Spe Pressure
psycho boost / ice beam / thunder / superpower
 
I would go Timid on ScarfToed: this will let you outrun a few extra mons, namely Scarftar, Dugtrio, and DDNite at +1. Also I suggest Hypnosis on Politoed over Focus Blast, since the sleep can become especially handy for Thundurus and Toxicroak to set up.

You need to really refine this team's defense. Your team is easily swept by physical Fighting Types, namely Terrakion, Mienshao, Mynicroak, and Conkeldurr. Adding Slowbro can ameliorate this problem by quite a bit. Slowbro will also provide you with another solid switch-in to physical Dragon mons, such as Dragonite and Haxorus, if Ferrothorn falls to a Magnezone.

Slowbro:
Psychic | Scald | Ice Beam | Slack Off
252 HP | 252 Def | 4 Spd | Bold

Gengar and Reuncilus are problems to your team, thanks to their ability to break through Blissey. Why not try out specially-defensive Jirachi over Blissey? Jirachi's paralysis and Wish support will be very helpful. Since Jirachi provides you with the nifty Steel Typing, I recommend Celebi / SpecsGastrodon over Ferrothorn to better combat against Water types.

Jirachi:
Iron Head | Thunder | Wish | U-turn / Stealth Rock / Water Pulse
252 HP | 4 Atk | 252 SDef | Sassy Nature

U-turn and Wish pairs up well to safely heal your team-mates. It also lets you safely switch out of Magnezone's magnetic pull. Water Pulse can come in handy against Gliscor / Landorus / Heatran / Excadrill / Jolteon on the switch, not to mention the extreme hax that will ensue from parafusion + flinch.

Celebi:
Giga Drain | Earth Power | Nasty Plot | Baton Pass / Thunder Wave / Leech Seed
240 HP | 84 SAtk |136 SDef | 48 Spe | Calm

Earth Power is mainly to hit Ninetales and Sub Jirachi. The last slot provides options when a hard counter, ie Dragon / Volcarona / Grass shows up. You can Baton Pass the boosts to a recipient, paralyze the switch-in, or seed it.

Gastrodon:
Scald / Surf | Earth Power | Ice Beam | HP Grass | Choice Specs
144 HP | 252 SAtk | 112 SDef | Modest

Since you have plenty of defensive mons, I figured Gastrodon can take a more offensive spin. Earth Power does ~40% to Ferrothorn, so it's not totally walled by it. Gastrodon has no problem countering Rain Jirachi, since it easily breaks Jirachi's Substitutes, even with CMs up. HP Grass is primarily to hit Gastrodon on the switch. With a Storm Drain boost, Gastrodon even comes close to 2HKOing Blissey, so it's a legit threat. With Wish support from Jirachi, Gastrodon still does a good job in tanking special hits, even from Thundurus.
 
Nice team, I suggest a revenge killer or scarfer of some sort, Banded Terrakion would eat your team alive. Also Scizor could help fill that role as it is in grea coverage within this rain team. A Spdef Scizor would help greatly.
 
I'm trying a scarfed Metagross

Metagross @ ChoiceScarf
Jolly (+ Spe, - SpA)
EVs: 72 HP, 252 Atk, 184 Spe
- Meteor Mash
- Earthqueake
- Ice Punch
- Trick / Zen Headbutt

You gauys think it's ok as my revenge killer? I tried in that spot Deoxys-S but I'm not convinced by him
 
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