Surskit (LC Analysis)

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[Overview]

<p>Surskit is a cute little pond skater, but sadly that is pretty much the highlight of its merits. It can Baton Pass Agility, but there are better options that can do that as well. Its attacking skills at times can also seem lacking. It can work in rain, but isn't nearly as strong as other Rain Dance abusers such as Omanyte. However, what it has over its fellow special Rain Dance sweepers is that it hits 32 Speed in the Rain, allowing it to outspeed every unboosted Pokémon in the metagame, including Scarfed Diglett, Elekid, and Voltorb. Its unique typing means that it resists many common attacking types, namely Fighting, Ground, and Water, giving it a distinctive niche in the metagame, allowing it to outclass Omanyte when it comes to resistances. Its ability to beat Croagunk and Gligar, two major threats in the metagame, with 4x super effective attacks is something Omanyte normally would not be able to do. Don't let this little guy fool you, because with the right support around him, Surskit can be a complete monster.</p>

[SET]
name: Rainskit
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Hidden Power Electric
move 3: Psybeam / Ice Beam
move 4: Signal Beam / Quick Attack / Rain Dance
item: Life Orb
nature: Modest
ivs: 3HP
evs: 20 Def / 200 SpA / 20 SpD / 236 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>This is the best set Surskit has to offer, despite being a touch outclassed by Omanyte. The general idea is that you bring Surskit in while it's raining, and proceed to hit as many things as possible. Hydro Pump is the main method of attack, mainly because Surskit needs power and doesn't learn Surf. Hidden Power Electric puts an end to Mantyke that think they can switch in, and STAB Hydro Pump in the rain hits Chinchou just as hard as a super effective Hidden Power Grass would. Psybeam is the weakest attack, and is mainly used as a coverage move against Croagunk, who is immune to Water and doesn't get hit very hard by Hidden Power Electric. Signal Beam is really just a filler move, but it can be useful as a secondary STAB. Quick Attack is a nice option to give Surskit a priority move in the rain. If getting another Pokemon to set up Rain Dance isn't an option, you can always drop Signal Beam and replace it with Rain Dance.</p>

[Additional Comments]

<p>Aipom, Bronzor, Mantyke, Meowth, and Voltorb all work extremely well alongside this Surskit. Aipom, Meowth, and Voltorb have the Speed needed in order to set up a quick Rain Dance, and the offensive ability to take something to the grave in the process. Bronzor and Mantyke are two rather bulky Pokemon, and said bulk allows them to take hits with ease, and still manage to set up Rain Dance.</p>

[SET]
name: Agilipass
move 1: Baton Pass
move 2: Agility
move 3: Hydro Pump
move 4: Endure / Substitute / Ice Beam
item: Oran Berry / Petaya Berry
nature: Timid
evs: 36 HP / 196 SpA / 20 SpD / 236 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>You may think Surskit is a Pokemon who is only good in the rain, but that is not entirely the case. Surskit can effectively Baton Pass an Agility to your slower, heavy-hitting sweepers, and allow them to outpace everything but priority attacks. Agility and Baton Pass are the crux of this set. Hydro Pump is for powerful STAB, so you're not totally useless on your own. The final move and the item are up to personal preference. Endure can be combined with a Pinch Berry, such as a Petaya or Liechi Berry, to pass something other than just Speed. Substitute can do the same, but also allows you to pass a Substitute in order to ensure that the pass goes through. Ice Beam, although giving Surskit inferior coverage as opposed to Hidden Power Electric, prevents Dragon Dance Dratini and Bagon from setting up. Oran Berry can provide a little more bulk, though Surskit is hard-pressed to survive most attacks. Focus Sash can help ensure the pass, though Stealth Rock makes it harder to use unless Surskit is leading.</p>

[Additional Comments]

<p>Cubone and Porygon make two effective partners for this set. If Surskit decides to only pass a Speed boost, Cubone can make the most of the added Speed. If Surskit chooses to pass both Special Attack and Speed, then a Special Attacking tank such as Porygon would make the best option to pass to. You could even start a chain of Baton Passing, and pass to a Pokemon such as Gligar, who then can stat up on Attack and pass to a sweeper.</p>


[Team Options]

<p>Surskit functions best on a team that is based around the move Rain Dance. Pokemon that are good at setting up rain, as well as maintaining it, are Aipom, Bronzor, Mantyke, Meowth, and Voltorb. In addition, any Pokémon that enjoys Speed boosts can also work well with Surskit. Cranidos and Aron are good recipients of an Agility or two, paving the way for these Rock-types to sweep. Machop and Krabby are also good candidates, although they do share weaknesses with Surskit (Flying for the former and Electric for the latter). Pokémon that can take out Munchlax, such as Mankey, Machop, and other Fighting-types, are also helpful partner for the RainSkit set, allowing it to sweep more easily.</p>

[Optional Changes]

<p>Surskit really doesn't have all too great a movepool, so its sets are rather limited. However, it still gets some good stuff. Bug Bite can be used on the Baton Pass set, possibly allowing it to eat an Oran Berry carried by a foe, and gain extra health to allow it to survive longer and pass on more boosts, and its Attack is only 2 points lower than its Special Attack. Shadow Ball can also be used to hit Ghosts harder than Psybeam, although Surskit does then lose coverage on Croagunk. Hidden Power Ground is viable, enabling it to hit both Croagunk and Chinchou, but an extra 4 SpD EVs are necessary. That's fine, because Surskit has plenty of EVs to spare. Unfortunately, Mantyke walls any set without Hidden Power Electric. A Choice Scarf looks appealing at first sight, but Surskit performs better in the rain. Ice Beam is a nice option, giving it "BoltBeam" coverage, only resisted by Magnemite. It is not mentioned on the Rainskit set, however, because Hydro Pump will be doing more damage to most Pokémon, except for pure Dragons such as Dratini and Bagon.</p>

<p> Maxing out Special Attack and Speed are two of Surskit's main priorities. In order to get the most out of Surskit's remaining EVs the following EV spread should be used: 36 HP / 200 SpA / 236 Spe / 20 SpD. This spread allows you to get 1 extra point in your HP and Special Defense stats, while maxing out you Special Attack and Speed stats. If using HP Ground, add an extra 4 EVs into Surskit's Special Defense.</p>

[Counters]

<p>Munchlax is the best counter around for Surskit; its defensive stats allow it take whatever Surskit throws at it, then hit back with a Return for the OHKO. Chinchou can take Surskit's hits pretty well, has a STAB Thunderbolt to strike back at Surskit with, and only fears Hidden Power Ground. Mantyke and Croagunk absorb his Hydro Pump, but Surskit will almost always carry a 4x super effective move to hit them with in the form of Hidden Power Electric and Psybeam respectively. Doduo and Taillow can outspeed Surskit without rain and revenge kill it with Brave Bird. Snover puts an end to rain and can switch in on Surskit's Hydro Pump, but needs a Choice Scarf in order to outspeed Surskit, and can't switch in on a Signal Beam.</p>
 
surskit does get ice beam, should be mentioned somewhere. You will also have to talk about the ground resist, as well as the fighting resist, which makes surskit a pretty good answer to scarf gligar and croagunk, both of them threats in lc. he also has a water resist, not neutrality, another plus.

i'd also like to test agility + 3 attacks but it might be simply too outclassed by mantyke. i'll get back with results
 
rain and agility pass looks good but... the choice set seems pretty bad imo. dratini sets up on like.... every one of its moves lol.
 
This isn't the correct format, try looking at this to see the updates from January.

In the opinion you say it's resistances are an individual niche, while Mantyke is immune to Water- and Ground-type attacks and resists Fighting, not to mention Mantyke is already bulkier than skit. You also say it has a niche for being able to beat Gligar, when every other Swift Swim Pokemon can do the same exact thing. It seems as though you just saw Omanyte and decided to focus on that instead of the other Swift Swim Pokemon. Also, the choice set isn't all that great with either Specs and Scarf, it should be moved to OC. Also, in the counters section, Snover needs mention just by being able to end your Rain.

Your bigest selling point with Surskit is that is can take out Croagunk with Psybeam, while not wasting a moveslot on a Hidden Power, so it should really emphasized.
 
The Choice skit seems really lackluster, I'd probably put it in OC. Other Pokemon do both Choice Specs and Scarf far more effectively.
 
I'd like to see a mention of quick attack somewhere, even on a possible anti-lead set before I'd stamp this, but it looks good otherwise.
 
surskit has a possible advantage over mantyke by hitting snover super effectively without having to use hidden power? (no one uses air cutter >.>)
 
Let's give this a shot...

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comatthew6 said:
[SET]
Name: Rainskit
Move 1: Hydro Pump
Move 2: Hidden Power Electric
Move 3: Psybeam / Ice Beam
Move 4: Signal Beam / Quick Attack / Rain Dance
Item: Life Orb
Nature: Modest
IV's: 3HP
EVs: 20Def / 200 SpA / 20 SpD / 236 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>This is the best set Surskit has to offer, despite being a touch outclassed by Omanyte. The general idea is that you bring Surskit in while it's raining, and proceed to hit as many things as possible. Hydro Pump is the main method of attack, mainly because Surskit needs the power and he it doesn't learn Surf. HP Hidden Power Electric puts an end to Mantyke that think they can switch in, and STAB Rain Hydro Pump in the rain hits Chinchou just as hard as a super effective Hidden Power Grass would. Psybeam is the weakest attack, and is mainly used as a coverage move against Croagunk, who is immune to Water and doesn't get hit very hard by Hidden Power Electric. Signal Beam is really just a filler move, but it can be useful as secondary STAB. Quick Attack is a nice option to give Surskit priority in the rain. If getting another Pokemon to set up Rain Dance isn't an option, you can always drop Signal Beam and replace it with Rain Dance. </p>

[Additional Comments]

<p>Aipom, Bronzor, Mantyke, Meowth, and Voltorb all work extremely well alongside this Surskit. Aipom, Meowth, and Voltorb have the Speed and Attack needed in order to set up a quick Rain Dance, and maybe even take something to the grave with them in the process. Bronzor and Mantyke are two rather bulky Pokemon, and said bulk allows them to take hits with ease, and still manage to set up rain in the process.</p>

[SET]
Name: Agilipass
Move 1: Baton Pass
Move 2: Agility
Move 3: Hydro Pump
Move 4: Endure / Substitute / Ice Beam
Item: Oran Berry / Petaya Berry
Nature: Timid
EVs: 36 HP / 196 SpA / 20 SpD / 236 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>You may think Surskit is a Pokemon who is only good when abused in the rain, but that is not entirely the case. Surskit can effectively Baton Pass an Agility or two to your slower, heavy-hitting sweepers, and allow them to outpace anything everything but priority. Agility and Baton Pass is are the main focus of this set. Hydro Pump is for powerful STAB, so you're not totally useless on your own. The final remaining move, and the item are totally up to personal preference. Endure can combo with a pinch Berry to pass something other than just Speed. Substitute can do the same, but also allows you to pass a Substitute in order to ensure that the pass goes through. Ice Beam, although giving Surskit inferior coverage as opposed to Hidden Power Electric, prevents Dragon Dance Dratini and Bagon from setting up. Focus Sash can help ensure the pass, though Stealth Rock makes it harder to use unless Surskit is leading. Oran Berry can provide a little more bulk, though Surskit is hard-pressed to survive most attacks. Petaya Berry can combo with Endure or Substitute and provide a Special Attack boost alongside the Speed boost.</p>

[Additional Comments]

<p>Cubone and Porygon make two effective partners with for this set. If Surskit decides to only pass a Speed boost, Cubone can effectively make the most of the added Speed. If Surskit chooses to pass both Special Attack and Speed, then a Special Attacking tank such as Porygon would make the best option to pass to, such as Porygon. You could even start a chain of Baton Passing, and pass to a Pokemon such as Gligar, who then can stat up on Attack and pass to a sweeper.</p>


[Team Options]

<p>Surskit functions best in a team that is based around the move Rain Dance. Any team that can set up rain, and function around it, is a good team environment for Surskit. Pokemon that are good at setting up rain, as well as maintaining it, are Aipom, Bronzor, Mantyke, Meowth, and Voltorb, all of whom can use the move Rain Dance, and set it up at will. In addition, any Pokémon that enjoys Speed boosts can also work well with Surskit. Cranidos and Aron are good recipients of an Agility or two, paving the way for these Rock-types to sweep. Machop and Krabby are also good candidates, although they do share weaknesses with Surskit (Flying for the former and Electric for the latter). Pokémon that can take out Munchlax, such as Mankey, Machop, and other Fighting-types, are also good for helping the ChoiceSkit Rainskit set to sweep. </p>

[EVs]

<p> Maxing out Surskit's Special Attack and Speed are two of Surskit's main priorities. The rest of the EVs can then be distrubted among the other stats until you use all of your EVs and gaining the most out of them. In order to get the most out of your Surskit's remaining EVs the following EV spread should be used: 36 HP / 200 SpA / 236 Spe / 20 SpD. This spread allows you to get 1 extra point in your HP and Special Defense stats, while maxing out you Special Attack and Speed stats. If using HP Ground, add an extra 4 EVs into Surskit's Special Defense. </p>

[Optional Changes]

<p>Surskit really doesn't have all too great of a movepool, so its sets are rather limited. However, it still gets some good stuff. Bug Bite can be used in the Baton Pass set, allowing it to eat an Oran Berry, and possibly pass on more boosts, and its Attack is only 2 points lower than its Special Attack. In addition, Quick Attack can also be used to pick off a weakened enemy, although it really doesn't make sense with Speed boosts. It Shadow Ball can also be used to Shadow Ball hits hit Ghosts Gastly harder than Psychic Psybeam, although Surskit does then lose coverage on Croagunk. Hidden Power Ground is viable, enabling it to hit both Croagunk and Chinchou, but an extra 4 SpD EVs are necessary. That's fine, because Surskit has plenty of EVs to spare. Unfortunately, Mantyke would wall this set if Surskit carries HP Ground. A Choice Scarf looks appealing, but Surskit performs better in the rain. Ice Beam is a nice option on a Choice set, giving it Surskit "BoltBeam" coverage, only resisted by Magnemite in this metagame. It is not mentioned on the Rainskit set however, because Hydro Pump will be doing more damage to most Pokémon, except for pure Dragons such as Dratini and Bagon. </p>

[Opinion]

<p>Surskit is a cute little pond skater, but sadly that is about all it can do effectively. It can pass Agility, but there a are better options that can do that as well. Its attacking skills at some times can also seem lacking. It can work in rain, but isn't nearly as strong as other Rain Dance abusers such as Omanyte; Mantyke is another candidate, with and both previous these Pokémon boasting higher attacking stats. However, what it has over its fellow special Rain Dance sweepers is that it hits 32 Speed in the Rain, allowing it to outspeed every unboosted Pokémon in the metagame, including Scarfed Diglett, Elekid, and Voltorb. However, its Its individual unique typing allows it to resist common attacking types, namely Fighting, Ground, and Water, giving it an individual a distinctive niche in the metagame, allowing it to outclass Omanyte in when it comes to resistances area. Its ability to beat Croagunk and Gligar, to two major threats in the metagame, with 4x super effective attacks allow it to take out Pokémon is something Omanyte normally would not be able to do. Don't let this little guy fool you, because with the right support around him, Surskit can be a complete monster. </p>

[Counters]

<p>Munchlax is the best counter around for Surskit, its defensive stats allow it take whatever you throw at it, then hit it back with a Return for the OHKO. Chinchou can take Surskit's hits pretty well, and has a STAB Thunderbolt to strike back at Surskit with, and only fears Hidden Power Ground. Mantyke and Croagunk absorb his Hydro Pump, but Surskit will almost always carry a 4x super effective move to hit them with in the form of Hidden Power Electric and Psybeam. Doduo and Taillow can outspeed Surskit and revenge kill it with Brave Bird. Snover puts an end to rain and can switch in on Surskit's Hydro Pump, but needs a Choice Scarf in order to outspeed Surskit, and Snover can't switch in on a Signal Beam. </p>
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comatthew6 said:
[Overview]

<p>Surskit is a cute little pond skater, but sadly that is about all it can do effectively pretty much the highlight of all its merits. It can pass Baton Pass Agility, but there are better options that can do that as well. Its attacking skills at times can also seem lacking. It can work in rain, but isn't nearly as strong as other Rain Dance abusers such as Omanyte; Mantyke is another candidate, and both previous Pokémon boasting higher attacking stats. However, what it has over its fellow special Rain Dance sweepers is that it hits 32 Speed in the Rain, allowing it to outspeed every unboosted Pokémon in the metagame, including Scarfed Diglett, Elekid, and Voltorb. Its unique typing allow means that it to resist resists many common attacking types, namely Fighting, Ground, and Water, giving it a distinctive niche in the metagame, allowing it to outclass Omanyte when it comes to resistances. Its ability to beat Croagunk and Gligar, two major threats in the metagame, with 4x super effective attacks is something Omanyte normally would not be able to do (I don't see how Omanyte in the rain can ever fail to beat Gligar normally, do you mean Mantyke?) Don't let this little guy fool you, because with the right support around him, Surskit can be a complete monster.</p>

[SET]
Name: Rainskit
Move 1: Hydro Pump
Move 2: Hidden Power Electric
Move 3: Psybeam / Ice Beam
Move 4: Signal Beam / Quick Attack / Rain Dance
Item: Life Orb
Nature: Modest
IV's: 3HP
EVs: 20 Def / 200 SpA / 20 SpD / 236 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>This is the best set Surskit has to offer, despite being a touch outclassed by Omanyte. The general idea is that you bring Surskit in while it's raining, and proceed to hit as many things as possible. Hydro Pump is the main method of attack, mainly because Surskit needs the power and it doesn't learn Surf. Hidden Power Electric puts an end to Mantyke that think they can switch in, and STAB Hydro Pump in the rain hits Chinchou just as hard as a super effective Hidden Power Grass would. Psybeam is the weakest attack, and is mainly used as a coverage move against Croagunk, who is immune to Water and doesn't get hit very hard by Hidden Power Electric. Signal Beam is really just a filler move, but it can be useful as a secondary STAB. Quick Attack is a nice option to give Surskit a priority move in the rain. If getting another Pokemon to set up Rain Dance isn't an option, you can always drop Signal Beam and replace it with Rain Dance.</p>

[Additional Comments]

<p>Aipom, Bronzor, Mantyke, Meowth, and Voltorb all work extremely well alongside this Surskit. Aipom, Meowth, and Voltorb have the Speed and Attack needed in order to set up a quick Rain Dance, and maybe even the offensive ability to take something to the grave in the process. Bronzor and Mantyke are two rather bulky Pokemon, and said bulk allows them to take hits with ease, and still manage to set up Rain Dance rain in the process.</p>

[SET]
Name: Agilipass
Move 1: Baton Pass
Move 2: Agility
Move 3: Hydro Pump
Move 4: Endure / Substitute / Ice Beam
Item: Oran Berry / Petaya Berry
Nature: Timid
EVs: 36 HP / 196 SpA / 20 SpD / 236 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>You may think Surskit is a Pokemon who is only good in the rain, but that is not entirely the case. Surskit can effectively Baton Pass an Agility or two to your slower, heavy-hitting sweepers, and allow them to outpace everything but priority attacks. Agility and Baton Pass are the crux of this set. Hydro Pump is for powerful STAB, so you're not totally useless on your own. The final move and the item are totally up to personal preference. Endure can combo be combined with a Pinch berry Berry, such as a Petaya or Liechi Berry, to pass something other than just Speed. Substitute can do the same, but also allows you to pass a Substitute in order to ensure that the pass goes through. Ice Beam, although giving Surskit inferior coverage as opposed to Hidden Power Electric, prevents Dragon Dance Dratini and Bagon from setting up. Oran Berry can provide a little more bulk, though Surskit is hard-pressed to survive most attacks. Focus Sash can help ensure the pass, though Stealth Rock makes it harder to use unless Surskit is leading. Oran Berry can provide a little more bulk, though Surskit is hard-pressed to survive most attacks. Petaya Berry can combo with Endure or Substitute and provide a Special Attack boost alongside the Speed boost.</p>

[Additional Comments]

<p>Cubone and Porygon make two effective partners for this set. If Surskit decides to only pass a Speed boost, Cubone can make the most of the added speed Speed. If Surskit chooses to pass both Special Attack and Speed, then a Special Attacking tank such as Porygon would make the best option to pass to. You could even start a chain of Baton Passing, and pass to a Pokemon such as Gligar, who then can stat up on Attack and pass to a sweeper.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Surskit functions best in on a team that is based around the move Rain Dance. Pokemon that are good at setting up rain, as well as maintaining it, are Aipom, Bronzor, Mantyke, Meowth, and Voltorb. In addition, any Pokémon that enjoys Speed boosts can also work well with Surskit. Cranidos and Aron are good recipients of an Agility or two, paving the way for these Rock-types to sweep. Machop and Krabby are also good candidates, although they do share weaknesses with Surskit (Flying for the former and Electric for the latter). Pokémon that can take out Munchlax, such as Mankey, Machop, and other Fighting-types, are also good helpful partners for the RainSkit set, allowing it to sweep more easily.</p>

[EVs]

<p>Maxing out Special Attack and Speed are two of Surskit's main priorities. In order to get the most out of Surskit's remaining EVs the following EV spread should be used: 36 HP / 200 SpA / 236 Spe / 20 SpD. This spread allows you to get 1 extra point in your HP and Special Defense stats, while maxing out you Special Attack and Speed stats. If using HP Ground, add an extra 4 EVs into Surskit's Special Defense. </p>

(Moved to OC)

[Optional Changes]

<p>Surskit really doesn't have all too great of a movepool, so its sets are rather limited. However, it still gets some good stuff. Bug Bite can be used in on the Baton Pass set, possibly allowing it to eat an Oran Berry carried by a foe, and gain extra health to allow it to survive longer and possibly pass on more boosts, and its Attack is only 2 points lower than its Special Attack. In addition, Quick Attack can also be used to pick off a weakened enemy, although it really doesn't make sense with Speed boosts (so why is it in the first set?). Shadow Ball can also be used to hit Ghosts harder than Psybeam, although Surskit does then lose coverage on Croagunk. Hidden Power Ground is viable, enabling it to hit both Croagunk and Chinchou, but an extra 4 SpD EVs are necessary. That's fine, because Surskit has plenty of EVs to spare. Unfortunately, Mantyke would wall this set if Surskit carries HP Ground walls any set without Hidden Power Electric. A Choice Scarf looks appealing at first sight, but Surskit performs better in the rain. Ice Beam is a nice option, giving it "BoltBeam" coverage, only resisted by Magnemite in this metagame. It is not mentioned on the Rainskit set, however, because Hydro Pump will be doing more damage to most Pokémon, except for pure Dragons such as Dratini and Bagon.</p>

<p>Maxing out Special Attack and Speed are two of Surskit's main priorities. In order to get the most out of Surskit's remaining EVs the following EV spread should be used: 36 HP / 200 SpA / 236 Spe / 20 SpD. This spread allows you to get 1 extra point in your HP and Special Defense stats, while maxing out you Special Attack and Speed stats. If using HP Ground, add an extra 4 EVs into Surskit's Special Defense.</p>

[Opinion]

<p>Surskit is a cute little pond skater, but sadly that is about all it can do effectively. It can pass Agility, but there are better options that can do that as well. Its attacking skills at times can also seem lacking. It can work in rain, but isn't nearly as strong as other Rain Dance abusers such as Omanyte; Mantyke is another candidate, and both previous Pokémon boasting higher attacking stats. However, what it has over its fellow special Rain Dance sweepers is that it hits 32 Speed in the Rain, allowing it to outspeed every unboosted Pokémon in the metagame, including Scarfed Diglett, Elekid, and Voltorb. Its unique typing allow it to resist common attacking types, namely Fighting, Ground, and Water, giving it a distinctive niche in the metagame, allowing it to outclass Omanyte when it comes to resistances. Its ability to beat Croagunk and Gligar, two major threats in the metagame, with 4x super effective attacks is something Omanyte normally would not be able to do. Don't let this little guy fool you, because with the right support around him, Surskit can be a complete monster. </p>

[Counters]

<p>Munchlax is the best counter around for Surskit; , its defensive stats allow it take whatever you throw Surskit throws at it, then hit back with a Return for the OHKO. Chinchou can take Surskit's hits pretty well, has a STAB Thunderbolt to strike back at Surskit with, and only fears Hidden Power Ground. Mantyke and Croagunk absorb his Hydro Pump, but Surskit will almost always carry a 4x super effective move to hit them with in the form of Hidden Power Electric and Psybeam respectively. Doduo and Taillow can outspeed Surskit without rain and revenge kill it with Brave Bird. Snover puts an end to rain and can switch in on Surskit's Hydro Pump, but needs a Choice Scarf in order to outspeed Surskit, and can't switch in on a Signal Beam.</p>

(Any mention of Paras and Psyduck in here?)
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