Metagame SV National Dex Monotype Rarely Used (NDM RU)

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SV National Dex Monotype RU (Rarely Used)
Inspired by Monotype UU


As the newer generations introduced more and more powerful Pokemon, a lot of previously good ones had their viability lost in the depths of lower tiers thanks to the ever-increasing power creep. National Dex Monotype Rarely Used (NDM RU for short) is a metagame where a wider range of Pokemon can be viably used, and a unique way to play Monotype in a National Dex setting!


What is National Dex Monotype Rarely Used?
NDM RU is a Monotype-based tier that was initially shaped around National Dex RU, the lowest National Dex usage-based documented tier in Showdown's teambuilder. Thanks to its Monotype nature, however, it has quite a few differences from the base tier, resembling more a National Dex version of Monotype UU, the tier's main inspiration.

Bans and unbans are and will be handled by a tiering council (instead of ladder usage) for the aim of creating a stable lower-tier metagame for National Dex Monotype.


Council
:flutter mane: Elvira
:staravia: Mateeus
:mismagius: Bows
:excadrill: Dunes
:mightyena: Hyjinks


Banlist
All of SV National Dex Monotype bans apply (Pokemon, abilities, moves, and items).
Bans
Pokemon::blacephalon::basculegion::basculegion-f::barraskewda::latias::cloyster::deoxys-defense::pidgeot-mega::swampert-mega::sableye-mega:
Items::booster energy::terrain extender::icy rock::damp rock::smooth rock: :heat rock: + the respective Mega Stones
Moves: Acupressure
Abilities: Snow Cloak, Sand Veil

Unbans
Pokemon::golisopod::talonflame::grafaiai::grimmsnarl:
Items::light clay:
Abilities: Drizzle, Drought


Challenge Code​
/challenge gen9nationaldexru@@@+sametypeclause, +drizzle, +drought, -acupressure, -terrain extender, +light clay, -booster energy, -icy rock, -pidgeotite, -sablenite, -swampertite, -barraskewda, -basculegion, -basculegion-f, -latias, +golisopod, +grafaiai, +talonflame, +grimmsnarl, -blacephalon, -cloyster, -deoxys-defense, -snow cloak, -sand veil, -damp rock, -smooth rock, -heat rock​
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SV National Dex Monotype RU Sample Teams

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Welcome to Scarlet & Violet National Dex Monotype RU Sample Teams, your primary place to get, well, National Dex Monotype RU sample teams!

The purpose of this resource will be to provide teams that are easy to use and represent the type fairly well for newer players to learn the metagame with. These teams can also be used as a base in order to try out new options in teambuilding.

If you're thinking of contributing, great! Please take a moment to read the following.

We will exercise very high standards over which teams are approved. We will not feature teams using sub-optimal archetypes, such as Hyper Offensive Poison. Submitted teams must be broadly effective and viable in the meta, however, this does not mean that niche tech sets and non-conventional builds (such as those in RMTs) are not entertained.

If you're thinking of contributing, great! Please take a moment to read the following.
The teams showcased in this thread should be representative of the various, viable, relevant play-styles and archetypes present in the National Dex Monotype RU OM.
Here are the guidelines for submissions:
  • Make sure submissions are in the [Gen 9] National Dex RU format.
  • Provide an importable for your team.
  • Accompanying sprites and art are appreciated, but not mandatory. All of the sprites can be found here.
  • Replays are highly encouraged and are a great way to demonstrate that the team is effective in the metagame. Make sure your teams are tested.
  • This is not the RMT forum; this thread is not the place to seek feedback on undeveloped teams and concepts.
  • Do NOT Post Memes. They will be deleted.
  • Finally, if you edit your submission based on feedback (or any reason), please make a note of it at the bottom of the post so we know to re-evaluate. You can also PM the council (Elvira , Mateeus, Hyjinks, Bows, Dunes).

(Note: as the metagame is in its early stages, some of the samples gathered here may vary in performance. Once the metagame stabilizes a bit, samples will be promptly updated.)

Approved Samples Archive

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:lokix: :durant: :frosmoth: :galvantula: :heracross: :kleavor: -by Bows
:shuckle: :araquanid: :galvantula: :kleavor: :durant: :slither wing: -by Elvira

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:sharpedo-mega: :muk-alola: :krookodile: :iron jugulis: :lokix: :mandibuzz: -by Elvira
:muk-alola: :sharpedo-mega: :scrafty: :iron jugulis: :krookodile: :sableye: -by Bows
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:silvally-dragon: :dragalge: :zygarde-10%: :goodra-hisui: :tyrantrum: :turtonator: -by Elvira
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:manectric-mega: :thundurus: :pawmot: :rotom-frost: :galvantula: :iron thorns: by Bows
:thundurus: :pincurchin: :raichu alola: :heliolisk: :rotom heat: :pawmot:-by Elvira
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:tapu bulu: :gardevoir: :primarina: :klefki: :mimikyu: :tinkaton: -by Bows
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:cobalion: :gallade: :okidogi: :scrafty: :passimian: :virizion:-by Elvira
:cobalion: :heracross: :pawmot: :breloom: :flamigo: :okidogi:-by Elvira
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:flamigo: :gligar: :Braviary-hisui: :articuno: :kilowattrel: :iron jugulis: -by Bows
:mandibuzz: :gligar: :articuno: :swellow: :thundurus: :flamigo: -by Bows
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:Gourgeist: :froslass: :mimikyu: :jellicent: :marowak alola: :oricorio-sensu:-by Elvira
:corsola galar: :doublade: :brambleghast: :sableye: :mimikyu: :jellicent:-by Elvira
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:torkoal: :houndoom-mega: :tauros-paldea-blaze: :ninetales: :talonflame: :scovillain:-by Bows
:ninetales: :scovillain: :typhlosion-hisui: :rotom-heat: :volcanion: :arcanine-hisui:-by Elvira
:volcanion: :rotom-heat: :infernape: :marowak-alola: :arcanine-hisui: :salazzle:-by Elvira
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:sceptile: :brambleghast: :amoonguss: :celebi: :leavanny: :ogerpon:-by Hyjinks
:ferroseed: :brambleghast: :breloom: :amoonguss: :cradily: :celebi:-by Bows
:leavanny: :torterra: :celebi: :sinistcha: :tapu bulu: :ogerpon:-by Bows
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:gastrodon: :krookodile: :sandy shocks: :steelix-mega: :flygon: :nidoqueen:-by Bows
:golurk: :zygarde-10%: :nidoking: :torterra: :steelix-mega: :diggersby:-by Bows
:gastrodon: :steelix: :nidoking: :zygarde-10%: :sandy shocks: :quagsire:-by Elvira
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:ninetales-alola: :arctozolt: :cetitan: :piloswine: :sandslash alola: :abomasnow-mega: -by Bows
:ninetales alola: :arctozolt: :cetitan: :avalugg: :piloswine: :sneasel:-by Dunes
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:porygon2: :blissey: :ditto: :staraptor: :diggersby: :swellow:-by Dunes
:staraptor: :blissey: :porygon2: :ditto: :swellow: :diggersby: -by Bows
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:crobat: :nidoking: :amoonguss: :muk-alola: :okidogi: :revavroom:-by Dunes
:crobat: :nidoking: :muk-alola: :okidogi: :revavroom: :nihilego:-by Bows
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:indeedee: :gallade: :celebi: :metagross: :scream tail: :necrozma:-by Bows

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:shuckle: :arcanine-hisui: :nihilego: :iron thorns: :omastar: :stakataka:-by Bows
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:klefki: :doublade: :orthworm: :goodra-hisui: :revavroom: :empoleon:-by Hyjinks
:empoleon: :bronzong: :goodra-hisui: :doublade: :cobalion: :dugtrio alola:-by Mateeus
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:empoleon: :gastrodon: :golisopod: :slowking: :sharpedo-mega: :primarina:-by Bows
:politoed: :seismitoad: :kingdra: :tentacruel: :empoleon: :slowking:-by Elvira
:seismitoad: :slowking: :sharpedo-mega: :mantine: :suicune: :tauros-paldea-aqua:-by Elvira
:tentacruel: :empoleon: :quagsire: :starmie: :tauros-paldea-aqua: :sharpedo-mega: -by Bows
 
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You may now start posting. Quick update though, Heat Rock is now banned from NDM RU. (no one wants to handle Scovillain or Mega Houndoom for eight turns for the sake of god)
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Have fun!
 
Well I'll kick off the discussion: psychic has no sample teams because all its best mons are banned.
NO mega gallade NO tapu lele NO slowbro NO glowking NO latis NO deoxys NO rachi NO tini and NO hatterene
There's obviously some problems with playing psychic without these mons.
1.) Your best hazard control options are gone.
2.) Your viable physical breakers are gone (cannot describe how brutal losing mega gallade is).
3.) Speed tiers are blegh.

However, the psychic mons in RU aren't bad mons -- you just have to run something weird to make it work. Balance teams still do something with celebi + slowbro holding its mega stone and you just don't ever mega it + bronzong; and HO teams can take advantage of the best defensive staples being gone to win games with weaker sweepers.
I've come up with some teams i think have merit as a core idea in NDM RU. They're definitely not sample quality, just somr things I threw together, but I do want to kickstart some discussion here.

We have ndm ou balance at home: https://pokepast.es/ea1ca685c14258c8
Celebi + bronzong + scream tail defensive core with starmie as an offensive hazard control option. Scarf gallade can clean teams + delphox is maybe fast enough to pull off nasty plot + zmove.

Webs HO: https://pokepast.es/a7bd685f9cdece48
Webs are bad in ndmou because orbeetle sucks and hazard control options are much better. But what if your hazard control sucked and dengo + aegislash were both missing from the format? This is like super cheese with the fling medicham (boosting item + fire punch probably clears) and eject button spinblocker hoopa, but there's definitely a strong team idea with z-armarouge + scarf indeedee + webs/azelf screens.

Jesse we need to cook!!!!!!
 
Elvira said:
Thank you for letting me know idk why that part didn't post. I updated it.
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Thanks for posting some teams! Can I ask what's the theory with the claydol reuniclus team? Why is reuniclus overcoat? I have some serious doubts about this team. The defensive utility and offensive options just do not look real to me. I understand forfeiting against dark and ghost, but 0 dragon resists and no moves to hit dragon for SE feels incredibly suboptimal, among some other issues I have (claydol is not viable imo).
 
Wafflecopter2000 said:
Can I ask what's the theory with the claydol reuniclus team? Why is reuniclus overcoat? I have some serious doubts about this team. The defensive utility and offensive options just do not look real to me. I understand forfeiting against dark and ghost, but 0 dragon resists and no moves to hit dragon for SE feels incredibly suboptimal, among some other issues I have (claydol is not viable imo).
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Well, that mustve been an issue when uploading to paste which I changed back to Magic Guard. This team serves more of a bulky presence overall with Claydol helping a lot through playtesting to not get auto smacked versus Electric while also being one of if not a few of Psychics (for NDM RU that is) hazard removal.

If you would like to provide further teams, they are always welcomed. The current samples have been tested and approved by all council. :quagchamppogsire:
 
Elvira said:
SV National Dex Monotype RU Sample Teams
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Good afternoon! There are 4 new additions to the Sample team post. Additionally we are looking at 2 Fairy teams to be picked as samples. Please message Elvira , Dunes , Bows , Hyjinks , or Mateeus regarding any sample teams that will be looked over, readjusted if needed, and posted followed by your smogon forum's name to be tagged respectively. Thank you for the contributions!
 
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