Sweeper Team

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Pokemon - Roserade
Item: Black Sludge
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Modest
E.V.s: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

Moves
~Sleep Powder
~Leaf Storm
~Shadow Ball
~Aromatherapy

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Pokemon - Sharpedo
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost
Nature: Adamant
E.V.s: 252 At / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Moves
~Protect
~Waterfall
~Crunch
~Earthquake

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Pokemon - Hitmontop
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant
E.V.s: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

Moves
~Rapid Spin
~Close Combat
~Sucker Punch
~Stone Edge

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Pokemon - Sceptile
Item: Fighting Gem
Ability: Unburden
Nature: Adamant
E.V.s: 4 HP / 252 At / 252 Spe

Moves
~Drain Punch
~Swords Dance
~Leaf Blade
~Rock Slide

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Pokemon - Bronzong
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Brave
E.V.s: 252 HP / 252 At / 4 SpD

Moves
~Stealth Rock
~Gyro Ball
~Earthquake
~Trick Room

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Pokemon - Chandelure
Item: Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
Nature: Modest
E.V.s: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Moves
~Fire Blast
~Shadow Ball
~Energy Ball
~Trick Room

I've just gotten back to Pokemon, and winning has been quite easy on Pokemon Showdown. I've pushed myself up from the low 1500s to the mid 1700s using this team - all in the span of a couple hours. I'm certain it can get me up to the 1900s.

ROSERADE

Roserade was chosen for the benefit of putting Pokemon to sleep while holding onto power and the ability to heal status. She comes in handy, usually, when Sharpedo or Hitmontop have status ailments or when I want something asleep. Of course, if ailments are plaguing ANY of my Pokemon, she comes in handy as well. Sleep Powder is good for switch-ins as well as slower Pokemon, and it can allow Sceptile to set up. Leaf Storm packs a serious punch when it hits, and Shadow Ball packs decently, too. I chose Shadow Ball over Sludge Bomb because of the Special Defense drop and the ability to hit things like Mew and Mismagius harder. Aromatherapy is for Roserade to act as a Cleric. Other notable things about Roserade are how it absorbs Toxic Spikes, how it can switch into Water and Grass moves, and how Black Sludge increases its livability.

SHARPEDO

This is the Sharpedo everyone knows. You Protect to get a speed boost and commence sweeping. Many times, I predict that the opponent will not use a dangerous move, or that he or she may switch, so I just straight-up attack with him.

HITMONTOP

It has great defenses already, and, because of that, I decided to slap an Adamant Nature on him instead of the Impish one that Smogon suggested. He still retains his defense, but packs a bit more of a punch. For this set, Foresight and Toxic looked a bit useless to me so I put on all the suggested attacking moves and Rapid Spin.

SCEPTILE

Sceptile sets up by Drain Punching for Fight Gem to activate Unburden then Swords Dancing when needed. After that, it's not too difficult to sweep with him. Leaf Blade, Drain Punch, and Rock Slide hit everything that's UU, neutrally or Super-Effectively.

BRONZONG

Bronzong has good defenses and can reliably set up Stealth Rock. Max attack allows Gyro Ball and Earthquake to hit things hard, and Trick Room is for when it looks like the opponent's Pokemons' speeds are too dangerous for my pokemon when Bronzong will drop. So I set up Trick Room the turn before Bronzong dies, get a hit off with Bronzong, then bring in a Pokemon that is now faster than the opponent's.

CHANDELURE

Chandelure hits hard, and is quick with a Scarf. It blocks Rapid Spin and absorbs Will-O-Wisp (among other fire moves), also. It revenge kills, Sweeps, and forces switches while dealing a free hit.


Let me know what you think!
 
Chandelure + Scarf + Trick room...
I'm assuming you meant Trick.

And ditch Trick Room on Bronzong too, most of your team is super fast. Give it TWave/Toxic.
Another thing is: Bronzong is useless offensively, plus you have a physical wall (Hitmontop) but no special one. So, you could move 252 EVs from Atk to SDef.

Also switch either Roserade or Sceptile out for a Flying type, like Zapdos. You have two Grass types, no electric types and there will be a point in having a rapid spinner.

Hope I helped!
 
Yeah, I did mean Trick for Chandelure. Trick Room on Bronzong is a move made to patch up a hole in my strategy made when my opponent has Pokemon that outspeed mine and Bronzong can set it up effectively. Bronzong can take down Crobat, it can EQ Raikou, it can deal great damage to Heracross, I don't see a problem where damage is concerned. I'm not switching it for Toxic or T-Wave when they can just switch to a faster Poke. Also, Roserade and Sceptile are not getting switched out for a Flying type. Sceptile is perfect on my team so, maybe, Roserade. I'll have to look into this.
 
Like Exbo said, most variants of Zapdos shut this team down. I suggest switching roserade to a more offensive role with leaf storm, extrasensory, sleep powder, and rest since after a leaf storm shel usually retreat anyway; add Umbreon or togekiss as clerics (the former being also a great special wall and the latter being an offensive threat). Victini could pose a threat if chandelure dies, as a LO variant can destroy most of your team.
 
There's always a point in having a Rapid Spinner, and he didn't say that Zapdos shuts this team down. He suggested putting a flying type on my team like Zapdos. I can also tell you, from experience, Zapdos does not shut this team down. Roserade IS offensively oriented, and I would like to keep Aromatherapy. I looked into adding a Flying Type. Doesn't look like it will happen.
 
Hello, I'll give a shot at trying to improve this team.

Roserade should change its set, and should also have a Timid Nature and a Life Orb for the power and the extra Speed. I'd suggest Sludge Bomb over Shadow Ball since it nails opposing Shaymin and Virizion, and Shadow Ball has no useful coverage in the first place.

I might as well suggest you replace Stone Edge with Foresight on Hitmontop, since Hitmontop really wants to guarantee that spin he needs to pull off, and he is otherwise helpless against most spinblockers, so that is needed.

I'd suggest a Flying Gem on Sceptile, with Acrobatics and Earthquake over Drain Punch and Rock Slide. Sceptile still maintains amazing coverage, and also gets the edge over Roserade, Shaymin, and Virizion with Acrobatics (oh and it nails HERACROSS too). EQ is a great coverage move to deal with the Steel, so that helps.

That's about it, and I hope I helped.
 
Well first of all lets deal with some pretty basic things. Bronzongs speed IVs should be 0 so Gyroball does its maximum possible. Trickroom on a fast team like this is begging a bulky slow pokemon to come in and setup on Bronzong.
Something like a Togekiss perhaps, which only benefits from your trickroom.It's already able to survive 2 stone edges from Hitmontop and 2 Rockslides from Sceptile, and can easily wall your offensive Bronzong to hell and back shuffling between roost & nasty plots until it can 1HKO Bronzong.
And what are you killing with Offensive bronzy that it didn't already kill??
Raikou? 0 att Sassy Bronzong still 2HKO's your typical non-defensive set Raikou. While at the same time, with the extra 252 SpD evs, you carry the very large possibility to survive 2 Choice specs raikou lightningbolts, you currently have 0 possibility of surviving that.
Crobat, you're going from a 30% chance to 2HKO crobat with Gyroball to a guarenteed 2HKO, big deal, since most crobat will just U-turn on you b4 you even get the chance. In fact that's the entire point to using Crobat in this situation. To scout your Bronzong.

And then, think about it this way, if you went Sassy Max SpD Bronzong, you can predict Chandelure switch ins, and still 2HKO it with earthquake. To top it off, Max SpD Bronzong is GUARANTEED to survive 1 Fireblast(unless specs) from Chandy, where as your current Bronzong is a guaranteed 1HKO while still only being able to 2HKO scarfed chandy. It also carries a 25% chance of being 1HKO'd by Flamethrower.


Now, Shadow ball on Roserade is doing nothing for you there, all it's doing is saying HIII SHAYMIN HII VIRIZION, SETUP ON ME PLEASE!!! You should swap it out for Sludgebomb. Maybe you're 1HKO'ing Chandelure switch ins? But why bother, you could carry Sleep powder or stun spore, which will help deal with the faster threats, over Aromatherapy and accomplish even more. Also, you may as well use life orb over blacksludge since you're not a SpD tank set.

And Sceptile, I can't see any conceivable reason why Fighting Gem Drainpunch. It is, again, making you fodder for something like Shaymin, to come in, 2-3HKO you, and laugh as you can maybe, 4HKO them if they have no bulk to speak of.
What is it dealing with? Bisharp?? Bisharps going to setup a Sub on your switch into this thing, and proceed to 2HKO you with Suckerpunch, or worse, setup a Sword dance, and proceed to sweep your hole team with sucker punch.
And where i'm sitting, you already have the Hitmontop, who can take his sucker punches all day, and OHKO him with CC.
I suggest Acrobatics + Flying gem over Drain punch. You lose your steel coverage but gain a grass + fighting coverage that 2HKO's things like Shaymin, and 1HKO's hitmontop if you got a sword dance in, possibly 2HKO if you didn't, cause intimidate is mean. Meanwhile, he can 2HKO Sceptile with Close combat, and you aren't killing him anytime soon with drain punch.
 
At the moment it seems your team might have a difficult time taking down a team with a lot of walls. Might I suggest replacing sceptile with mixed virizion? With Hp ice, giga drain close combat and stone edge/work up, you could threaten both physical and mixed walls, espicially gligar, slowbro and umbreon.
Try this set:

Virizion @ life orb
Naive nature (you can change this if you want)
EVs: 152 SpA / 104 Atk / 252 Spe
Ability: Justified
Moves:
-Close Combat
-Giga drain
-Hidden power ice
-Stone Edge / Work Up
 
Not to sound like a hypocrite, as I do use polls on my own RMTs, but this isn't really where you would use a poll.... the thread is called RMT, that means that people are going to rate your team. (In other words, having a poll on a thread meant to rate your team asking people to rate your team is sort of redundant).

In terms of the team, I'm just going to go along with what everyone else said, as well as advising you to just completely ditch Bronzong. He's not helping out your team at all, and you're absolutely screwed if TR is up after Bronzong is dead, only Hitmontop can even feasibly take some advantage of it. This team desperately needs more hazard support, so I'd replace Bronzong with LO 3 Attacks Rhyperior and replace Hitmontop with Offensive Spiker lead Froslass. You don't really need spinning support that much, and Hitmontop is sort of a momentum suck for an otherwise offensive team.

Sets:
Rhyperior @ Life Orb
Adamant Nature - 248 SpD/252 Atk/8 Spe
Solid Rock
-Earthquake
-Rock Blast
-Stealth Rock
-Megahorn

Froslass @ Focus Sash
Timid Nature - 4 SpD/252 SpA/252 Spe
Cursed Body
- Ice Beam
- Spikes
- Taunt
- Destiny Bond
 
I don't have time for a full rate but I just want to point out that mixed Virizion is a terrible set. If you're going to use one as a wallbreaker use SD.
 
I don't have time for a full rate but I just want to point out that mixed Virizion is a terrible set. If you're going to use one as a wallbreaker use SD.

Have you ever actually used a mixed virizion? It performs amazingly against defensive teams, doing over half to suicune, gligar, snorlax, umbreon, slowbro, crobat, milotic, claydol, blastoise, xatu, empoleon, qwifish, etc. It would give this team a chance to get rid of some of the walls that shut it down. SD Virizion can't do anything to gligar, hitmontop and qwilfish and needs a swords dance to gurantee a 2HKO on things like suicune.
 
Have you ever actually used a SD Virizion? It beats Gligar easily with +4 Leaf Blade, Eq does nothing so Gligar can only Toxic, and get 2HKOd. Suicune is OHKOd after SR, Qwilfish is effortlessly 2HKOd. Of the Pokemon you listed that mixed Virizion can 2HKO, 11/12 are OHKOd by SD after a boost. Why do you think there is no mixed Virizion on-site? It sucks. It doesn't do anything special that SD couldn't already do and gimps its defenses too. Literally the only niche it has is Giga Drain recovery alonside the special-wallbreaking power of Close Combat but it becomes shitty against every wall it doesn't hit SE in the process so you end up with a worse Pokemon that lives slightly longer. Work Up Virizion was barely usable in OU but it's just terrible in UU and you shouldn't ever end up using it.
 
I have to agree with FastFlygon there. SD Virizion is, in all possible ways, superior to Mixed Virizion. That set was only used during the time Chansey was down in UU.
 
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