Team DICKASS

[Yamborski]

Blah, a team! I started this team mainly to try Kyurem out since it has such good stats but the team sort of developed into a fun Draco Meteor spam team. Its got a few holes I'd like to fix but its overall the most fun I've had this gen. It doesn't have any laddering or tournament success because I only started using it this afternoon but it did 3-0 Stone_Cold in a haxless match.

@ Life Orb
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Draco Meteor
- Outrage
- Focus Blast
- Glaciate

My lead most of the time and main reason to use this team. Positive nature 95 base speed outruns pretty much the same things Salamence does barring Timid Hydreigon (most things like Haxorus or base 100s do not max speed + nature). Draco Meteor / Outrage / Focus Blast can 2HKO virtually every single Pokemon in the game. Glaciate is cool to rip apart Celebi without throwing Meteors at it but can catch some random switch ins with a speed drop. Its usually useless compared to just attacking with Meteor but its nice striking paraflinch Jirachi switch ins so Magnezone is guaranteed to be faster. Scizor often switches in on this so it may be weird to not run HP Fire but I can usually safely Draco Meteor + Outrage against them since 90% of the time they just U-turn, and if I fuck up and they Bullet Punch Magnezone will get a free sub and hit +4 or so then kill a third or more of the opponent's team. Most games Kyurem lures in whatever dragon counter they have and either kills it, cripples it or leaves it dead to Magnezone.

(M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Surf
- Psyshock
- Trick

Specs Latios, goes without saying what it does. Kyurem generally wears down or helps Magnezone remove the "Meteor spam" counter letting Latios blow holes in the opponent's team. Draco Meteor hits with sickening power, easily 1-2HKOing everything that doesn't resist it. Surf is a lesser move generally used against weakened Rain teams or to finish off a stubborn Jirachi. Psyshock is a great move to remove Blissey and Gastrodon and has nice sweeping power. Trick has near endless utility at removing setup sweepers, walls and some attackers like Tyranitar.

(F) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Surf
- Psyshock
- Trick

Specs Latias. Weird to see in a generation where Latios is available. However Latias hits with only 12% less power than Latios, but has 15% more Special bulk. Its kind of hard to say what Latias does that Latios doesn't since they run the same set and similar stats. Latias does have better bulk than Latios so its my choice when I need a Meteor placed somewhere but I know I need to take a hit (say against a Scarf Politoed or Mienshao).

(F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Spikes
- Stealth Rock
- Rapid Spin
- Gyro Ball

Forry is excellent utility here. It sponges dragon and ice moves while removing rocks from stupid stuff like Deoxys. Counters Haxorus MOST of the time. Spikes / SR helps keep up the pressure from repeated Meteors eventually helping even Blissey drop to 2HKO range (though I try to just Trick / Outrage it). Gyro Ball > other options because I hate Gengar. Still I might just run Toxic to keep Dragonite from switching in for free and sweeping.

@ Leftovers
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Charge Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Two KOs per game easily. Sets up against Scizor, Jirachi or Ferrothorn who make the wrong move, usually reaching at least +3 and nabbing another KO (or outright sweeping some stall teams). After tossing aside the resident steel and killing something else Magnezone is generally regulated to a sacrifice or Outrage sponge. HP EVs were chosen because they guarantee Scizor Bullet Punch 3HKOs my Subs instead of 2HKO and Jirachi Body Slam 3HKOs. Extra bulk also helps stop stuff like LO Deoxys, Cloyster, Gyarados, Starmie and Conkledurr in a pinch.

(M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Force
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- U-turn

The glue that keeps most things from sweeping me. Landorus keeps CM Jirachi in check and stops virtually every Pokemon in the game from killing me. Rock Slide over Stone Edge because both OHKO Volcarona and that's pretty much the only thing I would risk Stone Edge for. HP Ice OHKOs Naive Salamence and hurts Dragonite (OHKOing most after taking a Drago Meteor). U-turn racks up damage and lures in Skarmory to get trapped or Gliscor to let off a free Meteor.


Anyhow this is a really fun team. Probably not great but definitely fun. Some problems though..

DD Dragonite 6-0s. Its a huge problem since it has a lot of chances to set up.

DD Gyarados. Not as bad because it usually can't OHKO Latias at +1 without Bounce or Magnezone without Earthquake. If it has Life Orb it usually dies quickly to Rock Slide / its own recoil.

DD Scrafty. If it sets up safely and runs Drain Punch I lose.

Gengar. I have ways around it but its extremely hard to switch in to. Mainly Sub Disable, Subsplit isn't hard to remove.

 

[Taylor]

to run both lati@s with specs but also opt for life orb kyurem and magnezone to support them is going overboard.

id consider latias' position and run cbhaxorus with dual chop to hit gengar when he is at its most dangerous; behind substitute. id then swap hp ice for hp fire on magnezone.

safest move for your team would be to include rotom-w and replace magnezone to help burn physical threats whilst sponging gengar all day long with the ideal spread; you take gyarados and moxiescrafty well and force dnite into a premature outrage, giving your landorus the chance to revenge kill.

as it stands, i feel its a little redundant to have magnezone. forretress mocks whatever ferrothorn can throw at it, plus you have trick users and a potent life orb weapon to force the opponent into losing a mon if you glaciate correctly, and so on.

 

[haunter]

I think that he can't prescind from Magnezone. CB Scizor alone murders 4\6 of this team so getting it out of the way as soon as possible is vital imo. Magnezone also removes Ferrothorn which is extremely annoying for this kind of team.

I agree that a scarf Rotom-W could help this team though. The problem is over what? I think that the only replaceable member is Kyurem. I'd also consider volt switch on Forretress or opposing sub-charge Magnezone will get 2 guaranteed kills against you.

 

[Tomahawk]

Yeah, as you said, Dragon Dance Dragonite can cause some trouble if it gets the opportunity to set up, against Landorus lcoked in Earthquake, Forretress, or Latios or Latias locked in Surf. He actually outspeeds your whole team bar Landorus after that, who actually doens't KO 0 HP / 0 Def Dragonite even when Multiscale is broken, and doing a little less with Stone Edge. Your only hope is then him not having Fire Punch and finishing him off with Forretress' Gyro Ball. He seems manageable, but still a threat.
Dragon Dance Gyarados as you said can be troublesome, as a +1 Life Orb Waterfall in the rain does 73% - 86% to Latias, your best way of beating them, and Magnezone is OHKOed as well, meaning he can't take a Waterfall and Thunderbolt.
Scrafty can cause a little trouble as well, if it manages to set up. For example, against Lati@s locked in Psyshock or -2 Draco Meteor, or Landorus locked in Stone Edge or HP Ice, and after that outspeeds your whole team bar Landorus. Landorus does 61% max with Earthquake, so he can't revenge kill and takes a +1 Ice Punch to the face, but he does leave Scrafty in Forretress Gyro Ball range.

Okay, so Scarfing either Latias or Latios is an option to help against these, as Scarf Latios will be able to OHKO all of them after Stealth Rock and a layer of Spikes. He also outspeeds all of them, however switching him into them is a bit risky.
You could also use Skarmory over Forretress. While you lose Rapid Spin, you will get a good counter to all of them, as none of them carry Taunt, with Gyarados being almost always SubDD or offensive DD nowadays, so you can simply phaze them all out with Whirlwind,as none of them can deal major damage. The set I'm talking about is Stealth Rock / Spikes / Whirlwind / Roost, which also provides reliable recovery.

Good luck!

 

[Yamborski]

Those are good ideas. Rotom > Kyurem will probably work.

Rotom W @ Scarf
Timid
252 Special Attack / 132 HP / 124 Speed

Volt Switch
Hydro Pump
HP Ice
Trick

It would outrun +1 Dragonite and Gyarados, killing or Tricking both of them. It would also Volt Switch Gengar's Subs away letting it and Forretress beat Gengar for the most part. HP EVs would give it 13% more bulk than 0 HP. Trick would let me take out SD Scizor who atm does a lot of damage to me if it has Roost. It could Trick Scrafty too I guess. Spamming Volt Switch is cool I guess to lure in Ferrothorn and damage opposing Lati@s.

Possibly Volt Switch on Forry if so, but losing Gyro Ball hurts my ability to handle Haxorus to any real degree. Sub Charge Magnezone is a lot less common then what Gyro Ball hits.

Edit: Another option is to just Scarf Kyurem. Lets me beat several of my problems but keeps the Draco Meteor theme? I would probably replace Outrage then since it won't 2HKO Blissey.

 

[Joeyboy]

Mamoswine seems to be a right DICKASS to this team(see what I did there ;)

Unfortunately it does seem like Kyurem is the weakest link atm as it doesn't really bring much to the table. While I believe Yam's CS Rotom is great I feel it may be a little redundant with CS Land. So I'd like to suggest trying Scizor over Kyurem. A standard CB Scizor would give you a great offensive pivot and help check numerous threats such as Lati@s, Mamoswine and Dragonite.

Scizor (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- U-Turn
- Bullet Punch
- Pursuit
- Superpower

Hope you give it a try :)

 

[lucasky]

Dragonite it's a problem as long as u don't have a anti-spinner, if he setup 1 DD, he will sweep your whole team.

And 2 Lati@s with specs isn't good, Tyranitar is a threat to them, it's an awesome revenge killer, just like Scizor.