Team Don't Ask [UU Peaked #19 1613] in 24 hours.

[Rofllollmao]

Introduction: Don't Ask
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Hey, this is Rofllollmao with a UU RMT. I played under the AKA of DA_PANAmacANAL. I wanted to form a team that was able to win quickly and take advantage of Dual Screen support. I chose bulky sweepers that could exploit Dual Screens to set up and finish the game swiftly. I made sure to check as many threats in UU as possible while maintaining a strong offense. Without further adieu, here is Don't Ask.
DISCLAIMER: Don't mind the names, you're not suppose to get them and if you do, good for you.

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Venasaur (Fumanshu) (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 Spd/252 SAtk/4 Def
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Sludge Bomb
- Sleep Powder
- Leaf Storm
- Earthquake

Role: This is the typical Scarfsaur. It's an amazing Pokemon and serves as one of the fastest sleepers in UU. Usually straight off the bat, Venasaur can stop one of the opponents pokemon immediately if not KO them with Leafstorm. This is key because a quick sleep prevents any form of set up: being Rocks/Spikes/Tspikes or Weather. Venasaur is a vital player to the team and once Altaria, Registeel, Clefable, Chansey are gone he can come in continually sleep 1 pokemon and Leaf Storm the rest.

Moveset and EVs: Leaf Storm is for the magnificent stab to get rid of Rhyperior, Slowbro, Milotic and water pokemon in general. Sleep Powder is to constantly keep the opponent 1 pokemon down and to prevent set up. Earthquake is to revenge Raikou after it gets weakened by LO, Sub or juts form taking hits. Sludge Bomb is to hit other grasses and provides for another excellent stab. Maximum speed is so that I can atleast tie with any other 80 base speed scarfer and to outspeed anything without a scarf.

Name: Fumanshu is a person in our clan that is always awake when everyone else is sleeping, so obviously he's Venasaur.

Cresselia (Nate/Don'tAskMe) (F) @ Light Clay
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/252 Spd/4 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Thunder Wave
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Lunar Dance

Role: Cresselia is the key to this team. She sets up my Dual Screens and spreads paralysis. The EVs may seem odd for a Dual Screener but I enjoy a fast Thunder Wave as well as fast Screens. I'll usually switch her in Thunder Wave whatever is out and proceed to set up Screens. If Cresselia lost more than 50% in the process AND Toxic Spikes/Status is going to hit my sweeper I will Lunar Dance into my sweeper. Otherwise I just switch and save Cresselia to Screen and Dance another day.

Moveset and EVs: Thunder Wave so that I can paralyze things and have an easier time Subbing as well as Calm Minding or Dragon Dancing. Dual Screens are obviously to support my sweepers and allow their subs to not break in 1 attack. Lunar Dance is so that my sweeper can live again or so that my sweeper can come in unhindered by status. I wanted something fast and bulky as a Dual Screener and Cresselia was perfect. It has monstrous defensive stats so I could just maximize HP and Speed while still maintaining decent amounts of bulk.

Name: Cresselia is cute and girly, but yet fat and bulky. So I named her Nate. I'll never pass up an opportunity to make fun of you Nate.

Froslass (Sakura) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Snow Cloak
EVs: 252 HP/240 Def/16 Spd
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Spikes
- Destiny Bond
- Pain Split

Role: Bulky Froslass is a great Spiker. It may not have the speed but it makes up for that in bulk. Froslass can switch into plenty of non-super effective moves and take them like a champ. He is my first switch into Donphan and Torterra, I can Ice Beam for the 1HKO unless they run decent bulk, even then it's a 2HKO while they manage to do little in return. He is also my first switch into lead Ambipoms to take the fake out. If they run taunt that means they lose coverage so I just Ice Beam whatever comes, if they don't run Taunt, I'll continue to Spike until I need to Pain Split. When I'm about to get KO'd or know I will get KO'd next move I Destiny Bond to scare the opponent into switching and taking Spike damage while also scouting their team and giving me a chance to set more Spikes.

Moveset and EVs: Ice Beam is for the obvious stab and to rid me of Torterra and Donphan. Spikes is self-explanatory and allows my sweepers to have an easier time KOing the opponents team as well as just hitting them while they switch. Destiny Bond is to score KO's against the stupid and scare the opponent into switching allowing them to take Spike damage, reveal their team to me as well as allow me to lay more Spikes. Pain Split is for recovery and is great when people fear the Destiny Bond and switch around. Maximum HP and defense while putting a little speed to outspeed Bulkylass's who don't invest any.

Name: Named her Sakura because Sakura is annoying as hell and just comes into our Xat to talk about her stupid life that no one cares about.

Feraligatr (DA_Johto-Master) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 28 HP/252 Atk/228 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Substitute
- Earthquake
- Waterfall

Role: Feraligatr is my physical sweeper and first screen abuser. He has decent coverage with Water and Ground. He's walled by pure Grass and Altaria but altogether with 2-3 DD's under his belt he can muscle his way through almost anything. Under Dual Screen support I can Substitute and DD through most attacks unless they are special, which in that case I would have went to Raikou. Feraligatr can DD in the face of those defensive Slowbros and Milotics who will fail to break my sub unless they invest more EVs than they should with a defensive set. There are times when I can DD against Venasaur too, as long as I got the paralysis off with Cresselia I can just spam Substitute until they get paralyzed and proceed to DD.

Moveset and EVs: EVs are to outspeed all of UU after a DD that isn't holding a scarf. Max attack to muscle his way through the tier. Leftovers in HP for general bulk. Waterfall for the stab with Earthquake to complement it and get rid of Steels. Although Water and Ground does not give amazing coverage, it is usually enough because I can muscle my way through Altaria and Grass pokemon. Substitute is obviously to guard me from status and so I can abuse the screens as they do over 25% in 2 turns and instead of hitting me they simply break my Substitute.

Name: Named him Johto Master because this guy is obsessed with how good Feraligatr is and I agree with him.

Blaziken (M) (DA_Truth/DA_Ambi) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Superpower
- Quick Attack
- Flare Blitz
- Night Slash/Thunder Punch/ Filler

Role: Blaziken is my revenge killer and makes for an awesome scarfer. He has amazing attack and is able to sweep once fire resists have been removed by spamming Flare Blitz. He is walled by bulky waters such as Slowbro and Milotic but when they switch in they are taking a hefty 25% from Spike damage allowing Blaziken to 2hko Milotic. I can also use Blaziken as bulky water lure so that I can go into Cresselia, set up screens and switch to the appropriate sweeper. There is always that great surprise factor when I switch him into a Mismagius or Dugtrio and they think they can set up or KO and I just Flare Blitz as Mismagius attempts to Calm Mind behind her Substitute, only realizing that I'm faster when it's too late.

Moveset and EVs: I went for maximum attack and maximum speed so that he can outspeed everything in UU that's not holding a scarf. Superpower and Flareblitz are for stab as well as providing decent coverage. Quick Attack is for priority against Sunny Day/Rain Dance teams that are faster. Night Slash is just for when I know Slowbro is coming and want to attempt to hit it, also hits Mismagius and Rotom but usually Flare Blitz is better for these two.

Name: I named him DA_Truth because this guy just loves Captain Falcon and is always telling me FALCON PAWNCH.

Raikou (DA_BLACKMAGIX) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Def/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunderbolt

Role: Raikou is my MVP and second screen abuser. He is able to CM against ANY special attacker and come out on top because of screens. Raikou has decent coverage with Thunderbolt and HP Ice, essentially mimicing BoltBeam. Raikou has amazing bulk even without investments and after a Calm Mind or 6 he can eliminate the opposition swiftly. Raikou comes in after Dual Screens are up when the enemy has a special attacker out so I can proceed to Substitute and Calm Mind until I feel like attacking.

Moveset and EVs: Maximum speed because I have Calm Mind to boost my special attack. Maximum special attack for obvious reasons. Calm Mind is my boosting move to make my Substitutes even more specially bulky while at the same time boosting my special attack to sky-high levels. Thunderbolt and HP Ice to mimic BoltBeam for coverage and Substitute to protect me from status as well as allowing me to Calm Mind.

Name: Named him Blackmagix because he's a good friend of mine and simply because Raikou is a boss and so is he.


Conclusion
This team was fun to make and I loved it's success on the UU ladder. This is my first RMT so don't be so rough. The team is retired but I'll happily test changes to see if it improves the team.

 

[Rofllollmao]

Not sure if I'm suppose to do this, but this threats list was stolen directly from Heysup's RMT.

Defensive Threats

Blastoise - Froslass or I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Chansey - I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Claydol - Frosslass or I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Cloyster - Venasaur or I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Cradily - I have lots of trouble with this one especially if it's in the sand, I have to make sure I have 3 layers of Spikes up, switch into Blaziken and pray for a KO.

Cresselia - I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Donphan - Froslass or I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Mesprit - Froslass to Spike and force switches or I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Milotic - Switch in Venasaur and deliver a swift KO.

Nidoqueen - Froslass to Spike and threaten with Ice Beam or I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Quagsire - Venasaur

Regirock - 3 layers of spikes and Superpower will serverely cripple it or I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Registeel - 3 layers of Spikes and Superpower will severely cripple it or I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Rotom - Venasaur with Leaf Storm destroys it or I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Slowbro - Venasaur kills it easy, I must beware of Psychic though.

Spiritomb - I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Umbreon - I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Uxie - If it's a lead I laugh when it tricks. I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Weezing - I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Most defensive threats are easily handled by simply going into Cresselia and starting the sweep. Or it allows me to set up more Spikes and force switches with Froslass.

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Offensive Threats

Absol - ScarfBlaziken easily revenges.

Alakazam - ScarfBlaziken easily revenges.

Ambipom - Froslass can Spike and Pain Split and eventually KO.

Arcanine - Go into Cresselia, Thunder Wave, set up the appropriate screens and go into a sweeper.

Azumarill - Venasaur easily handles it, Froslass can Spike.

Blaziken - Most will be mixed and my own Scarfken will KO with Superpower.

Drapion - Sleep it and kill with Blaziken or just sacrafice Blaziken and finish with Raikou.

Feraligatr - Venasaur kills it, Froslass can set up Spikes. Raikou kills it.

Froslass - Slept when it's a lead and dealt with using Raikou, I can easily set up on it with Raikou or Feraligatr.

Hariyama - Go into Froslass and set up Spikes or I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Hitmonlee - Go into Froslass and set up Spikes or I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Hitmontop - Go into Froslass and set up Spikes or I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Houndoom - It can be tricky if it gets a Nasty Plot, but I can usually Thunder Wave it, set up screens and go into a sweeper.

Kabutops - Under rain I have alot of trouble with it and have to bait water attacks and direct them towards Feraligatr and Venasaur.

Kangaskhan - Blaziken can KO and Venasaur if it's slightly weakened, I go into Cresselia, set up screens, switch/lunar dance into a sweeper, end the game.

Leafeon - Dealt with by Scarfsaur and Scarfken.

Magmortar - I can usually go into Cresselia and begin a sweep, but sometimes it hits harder than I expect in that case I can revenge it.

Mismagius - Venusaur and Scarfken easily kill it. ScarfBlaziken switches in on the sub, they think they're faster they proceed to CM while I FLareblitz and are forced out or killed.

Moltres - I switch in Cresselia and hope to Thunder Wave, if not I just revenge with Blaziken or sleep with Venasaur.

Omastar - Sleep to prevent Rain or hazards, Leaf Storm delivers a quick KO.

Porygonz - Choiced variants give me free Spikes. Nasty Plot versions are easily revenged.

Raikou - I bring in Venasaur to hit with EQ or I bring in Blaziken to hit with Flare Blitz, whichever I bring in first I bring in the other to finish it. Or I set up Light Screen go into my own Raikou and set up.

Rhyperior - Venasaur.

Scyther - Blaziken revenges it after I sacrafice Lass.

Swellow - Blaziken and Venasaur revenge it.

Torterra - Froslass tanks all of its hits and delivers a KO with Ice Beam.

Venusaur - Use Froslass to tank the sleep and attempt to Ice Beam, finish it with my own Venasaur or Blaziken. Otherwise bring in Cresselia and start Screening.
Team Styles:

Rain Dance - These are an amazing pain in my side, all the special attackers are easily dealt with by Screens and good switching or setting up with Raikou. But, Kabutops can run through my entire team. I just have to be careful, don't let the rain come up and outstall it with good switches.

Stall - Stall is not really a problem, I'll most likely have Spikes up to slow their switches down and I can set up until they try to phase me.
Sandstorm - Cradily is the biggest problem here, I really can't do much if it gets a curse or 2. Sandstorm in general is annoying because Cacturne is also a bitch to play against.

Offense - I can easily go to Cresselia to set up on whichever atttack Spectrum they hit hardest with and then go into the appropriate sweeper and set up.
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[Ich777ich]

Can't do a full rate right this minute, but on Venusaur I'd recommend either Hasty or Naive nature so then you don't reduce the power of Earthquake. That small percentage could be the difference in taking down a CM Raikou. But overall it looks like a cool team, I'll give a full rate later. (Plus, I run the same Blaziken set and it kicks ass).

 

[Rofllollmao]

Heh, thanks. I feel that if I reduce Venasuars defenses I won't be able to take on Raikou's Thunderbolt or Kabutops Waterfalls in the rain. Earthquake isn't meant to bring Raikou from 100% to 0% but serves more as a revenger.

 

[Ontop]

ScarfVenusaur with Hasty nature only does 48.4% - 57.1% to a offensive Raikou, so that's outta the picture to K0 them. I have to go to school now i will get back for full rate ;D.

 

[Delko]

Hello

On a bulky Froslass as your own I do believe that Taunt is a better option then Destiny Bond. I know that with Destiny Bond you can force your opponents to switch but against stall teams it's usually better to have Taunt, because stall teams do not attack very often but instead Roar/ Whirlwind you away so you take a lot of entry hazard damage every time you switch in as well. Taunt will also help against stat uppers like CM Cresselia, who is immune to Spikes and can just stall out Destiny bonds while setting up her own CM's.

On Blaziken I suggest Fire Blast over Flare Blitz. Most of the defensive pokemon in UU are stronger in the defense then they are in the special defense. Although you might dislike the 85 accuracy, Fire Blast doesn't take you life away every times you use it. Another thing that you could go with on Blaziken in Vaccuum Wave over Quick Attack. Although I will not go with a priority move on a scarfer myself, basicly because of the low power you will have. You said you use Quick Attack against Rain Dance teams but the most common Swift Swim users (the ones that outspeed you in rain) are Kabutops, Omastar, Ludicolo, Qwillfish. The first take more damage from a SE Vaccuum wave then they would from Quick Attack. Ludicolo takes lesser damage from it (even though Vaccuum Wave is STAB'ed Ludicolo has great special defence) and Qwillfish resists it as well. If you do not like to low damage you get from both Quick Attack as Vaccuum Wave, you could go with HP grass and predict the switch-in to Kabutops/ Omastar (both OHKO'ed) while they come in on a predicted Fire Blast.

Hope this helped!

 

[Rofllollmao]

Hello

On a bulky Froslass as your own I do believe that Taunt is a better option then Destiny Bond. I know that with Destiny Bond you can force your opponents to switch but against stall teams it's usually better to have Taunt, because stall teams do not attack very often but instead Roar/ Whirlwind you away so you take a lot of entry hazard damage every time you switch in as well. Taunt will also help against stat uppers like CM Cresselia, who is immune to Spikes and can just stall out Destiny bonds while setting up her own CM's.

On Blaziken I suggest Fire Blast over Flare Blitz. Most of the defensive pokemon in UU are stronger in the defense then they are in the special defense. Although you might dislike the 85 accuracy, Fire Blast doesn't take you life away every times you use it. Another thing that you could go with on Blaziken in Vaccuum Wave over Quick Attack. Although I will not go with a priority move on a scarfer myself, basicly because of the low power you will have. You said you use Quick Attack against Rain Dance teams but the most common Swift Swim users (the ones that outspeed you in rain) are Kabutops, Omastar, Ludicolo, Qwillfish. The first take more damage from a SE Vaccuum wave then they would from Quick Attack. Ludicolo takes lesser damage from it (even though Vaccuum Wave is STAB'ed Ludicolo has great special defence) and Qwillfish resists it as well. If you do not like to low damage you get from both Quick Attack as Vaccuum Wave, you could go with HP grass and predict the switch-in to Kabutops/ Omastar (both OHKO'ed) while they come in on a predicted Fire Blast.

Hope this helped!

I've considered Taunt before on Froslass, but Destiny Bond has forced so many switches and won me so many games because people don't often expect a Destiny Bond on a Bulkylass. I guess it's only against the stupid though.
Regarding ScarfKen, the point was to actually make him physical because of the 100% accuracy moves. Also, Milotic and Cradily have a much high special defense compared to their defense. I also use physical because I'm able to 2hko Milotic with Spikes, or possibly 1HKO if it's offensive. It also balances because most things ScarfBlaziken can't handle (Bulky Waters/Cress) ScarfVenasaur can either sleep or deliver a KO and eventually lead into my own Cresselia to mount a sweep.
Thanks for the rate, will try Taunt over D-Bond.

 

[Heysup]

Don't worry about the threat list, I stole that list from someone back in the days of the first test and have been modifying it slightly, so I really haven't done much to it :)

Anyway....

I actually really like this team, it is quite unique and seems to be effective.

However, I have some minor nitpicks that will hopefully aid you.

First, run Taunt on Froslass. While that Destiny Bond + Pain Split combo is quite good, I find Taunt just too valuable. With Taunt, you can also stop Cradily, and actually weaken it quite a bit with Taunt + Pain Split after it attacks you, leaving it at approximately 50-60%. This also stops Hitmontop from spinning on you, which it can at the moment.

Another thing I would suggest is to make your Blaziken a Life Orb variant. This will help you a lot against Rain teams, because a Max SpA Vacuum Wave will do a good number to many of the rain sweepers. Additionally, Blaziken's Superpower will actually hit harder because of Life Orb (lowering Speed for more Attack is an option, but it's definitely not needed). This is helps with Cradily as well.

I hope this helps, Good Luck!

 

[Rofllollmao]

Don't worry about the threat list, I stole that list from someone back in the days of the first test and have been modifying it slightly, so I really haven't done much to it :)

Anyway....

I actually really like this team, it is quite unique and seems to be effective.

However, I have some minor nitpicks that will hopefully aid you.

First, run Taunt on Froslass. While that Destiny Bond + Pain Split combo is quite good, I find Taunt just too valuable. With Taunt, you can also stop Cradily, and actually weaken it quite a bit with Taunt + Pain Split after it attacks you, leaving it at approximately 50-60%. This also stops Hitmontop from spinning on you, which it can at the moment.

Another thing I would suggest is to make your Blaziken a Life Orb variant. This will help you a lot against Rain teams, because a Max SpA Vacuum Wave will do a good number to many of the rain sweepers. Additionally, Blaziken's Superpower will actually hit harder because of Life Orb (lowering Speed for more Attack is an option, but it's definitely not needed). This is helps with Cradily as well.

I hope this helps, Good Luck!

I actually like the sound of a LO Blaziken, it's just I never liked the idea of losing speed to split into the attacks or dropping attack to put into the other. Or were you suggesting entirely 252/252 Sp. Attack and Speed respectively. Blaziken is already 80 base speed and can use all the speed he can get. Perhaps you could suggest and EV spread for the mix?

I see the point people have tried to make on taunt now and will try it because this team definately has a SS RestTalkCurse Cradily problem. Thanks for the very useful rate.

 

[ShinyAzelf]

This is pretty good.
For Feraligatr, it swept many unprepared teams. :D
Just one suggestion for Raikou. I commonly encounter Quagsires who try to counter Raikou. I know HP Ice is usually better for Altaria/Venesaur and some others but HP Grass can help much against Quagsire, and without it, it sometimes stops my sweep which is kinda annoying. But other than that, great team!

 

[Rofllollmao]

This is pretty good.
For Feraligatr, it swept many unprepared teams. :D
Just one suggestion for Raikou. I commonly encounter Quagsires who try to counter Raikou. I know HP Ice is usually better for Altaria/Venesaur and some others but HP Grass can help much against Quagsire, and without it, it sometimes stops my sweep which is kinda annoying. But other than that, great team!

Usually that isn't a problem since if they had Quagsire out, I would use the screens to go into Feraligatr to set up on the physical side. Usually by the time I encounter Quagsire during a Raikou sweep the opponent will have let me get 4-5 CMs and I can muscle my way through with HP Ice.

 

[Rofllollmao]

Bump want more opinions.

 

[Heysup]

I actually like the sound of a LO Blaziken, it's just I never liked the idea of losing speed to split into the attacks or dropping attack to put into the other. Or were you suggesting entirely 252/252 Sp. Attack and Speed respectively. Blaziken is already 80 base speed and can use all the speed he can get. Perhaps you could suggest and EV spread for the mix?

Well it would be between 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe and 240 Atk / 252 SpA / 16 Spe.

If you want to dominate Cradily, you will need to use the slower spread. If you want to "deal" with Cradily but additionally function better against non-sandstorm teams, use the faster spread. I'd personally recommend the faster spread, especially to outpace stuff like Absol and Kabutops (when Rain wears off).